Tyrone Woodley rates Askren’s wrestling very highly, but at the same time...

[MartinGibson86]

he has one flukish win

He methodically took him down, took his back, and applied a choke which rendered Robbie unconscious.

 

[Joe-Buck]

Hey TS, was someone trying to put your burning face out with a fire ax? Some of us are just out of luck eh?

 

[ZxxRnn]

He methodically took him down, took his back, and applied a choke which rendered Robbie unconscious.

hes so unconscious here

very methodical indeed

 

[mkt]

He's 1-1 in the UFC. Finished a Top 10 who's probably the most lethal striker in division history.

He has ONE flukish loss.

And with a different ref who stopped fights sooner, may have had two losses...and Lawler's near finish of him was anything but flukish. Though a bulldog choke submission win could be considered kind of flukish.

 

[NoStoneUnturned]

Really like Askren but a clean fighter with limited natural athleticism in his mid thirties is going to have a rough go in the UFC. Still going to watch and root for him as I'm involved in wrestling at the HS level. Many of the HS wrestlers pull for Askren and his contributions within that sphere are held in very high regard.

 

[MartinGibson86]

hes so unconscious here

very methodical indeed

First round finish for Funky.

Robbie's arm fell lifeless to the floor.

Doesn't happen if you're conscious.

 

[NoStoneUnturned]

Robbie is one of my all time favorite fighters but if he wasn't out then that was the dumbest thing he could have possibly done in that position with Herb watching. The fault is entirely his own.

 

[MEAN357]

Yes, partially. It also has to do with his age and general lack of strength and conditioning.

If Khabib had Askren's level of strength and conditioning, he'd look the exact same. I'm not implying that Khabib is using PEDs. Askren is older and he doesn't train as hard as Khabib.

But if Askren had a more serious strength and conditioning regimen, and he used PEDs, he would be Jon Jones level of dominant.

Nobody is gonna be jon Jones dominant without a complete game, peds or not askren lacks any form of striking fuckouttahere

 

[CPH]

Yes, partially. It also has to do with his age and general lack of strength and conditioning.

If Khabib had Askren's level of strength and conditioning, he'd look the exact same. I'm not implying that Khabib is using PEDs. Askren is older and he doesn't train as hard as Khabib.

But if Askren had a more serious strength and conditioning regimen, and he used PEDs, he would be Jon Jones level of dominant.

That’s quite the fairytale. If Khabib wasn’t as well conditioned, his style might be completely different. Also, based on what Askren has said about MMA gyms, he trains harder than anyone. You’re just spinning some armchair expert theories based on how he looks.

 

[Maroli]

Askren's wrestling is at an insanely high level.

His problems are: 1) he's older, 2) he obviously doesn't work on strength & conditioning as much as he should, and 3) he's clearly not taking steroids.

PEDs + strength and conditioning seems to be a requirement for MMA today. Older athletes have little chance without that regimen. It's really sad. I hope one day the sport gets cleaned up, because right now it's a fucking swamp. I do believe there are clean fighters, but I also think many are dirty.

Age would be a problem if he was explosive and shooting halfway across the octagon to power through a double leg. He has a different style - but certainly, strength training would make him even more of a beast. He could easily cut fat and bulk up.

 

[Flex Plexico]

He methodically took him down, took his back, and applied a choke which rendered Robbie unconscious.

you’re the same age as fellow guitar guy @Takamine86 ?

 

[Fergelmince]

He methodically took him down, took his back, and applied a choke which rendered Robbie unconscious.

After he woke up from being KO'd

 

[Fight Professor]

A new report from Sports Business Journal has the median age of UFC television viewers pegged at 49 years old....

i wonder why

Because younger viewers are streaming.

 

[WHITE ANDERSON]

3) he's clearly not taking steroids.

did you confirm this by the salivate over his big muscles eye test? sherbros love to talk about men's tight muscular bodies SO MUCH

but ask josh barnett and ben rothwell if they are natty

 

[Andreh]

Plus

 

[NoStoneUnturned]

After he woke up from being KO'd

And yet Ben has the presence of mind to recover while Robbie (one of my all time favorites) couldn't understand dropping his hand limply directly in front of Herb Dean wasn't smart.

 

[Fergelmince]

And yet Ben has the presence of mind to recover while Robbie (one of my all time favorites) couldn't understand dropping his hand limply directly in front of Herb Dean wasn't smart.

askren was lucky Herb Dean didn't see he was ko'd and gifted the fight to him before Lawler got out of that headlock, but askren wasn't so lucky in his next fight lol

 

[mkt]

Nobody is gonna be jon Jones dominant without a complete game, peds or not askren lacks any form of striking fuckouttahere

Or prime GSP level. GSP wasn't a KO artist but had a very competent striking game and great transitions to go along with his MMA wrestling. MMA is a package deal. You won't be GOAT-level based on one skill.

 

[Flex Plexico]

 

[mkt]

did you confirm this by the salivate over his big muscles eye test? sherbros love to talk about men's tight muscular bodies SO MUCH

but ask josh barnett and ben rothwell if they are natty

Or Royce Gracie, who was closer to Ben's size.