Tyron Woodley's Unpopularity Explained by Din Thomas

[tommy_gunn]

Eh I’m a fan of Woodley, guess I’m in the minority, I can see where some would find him annoying at times.

 

[MikalP]

Maybe, to you white trash isn't equivalent to the "n word" because you have never been called white trash based on your circumstances and possibly because your history has not allowed you to feel discriminated against on account of your skin color.

To anyone who has ever paid attention to african history, the n word is not equivalent to white trash. One has a direct link to oppression and slavery used by the oppressive race towards the oppressed, the other does not and its origins come from inside the same race - particularly the southern states. You are playing the victim.

was white men that had to decide to stand up for black men, first in a war and secondly in the congress and senate. Blacks didn't free themselves in our country, whites did. This is not a knock against blacks but an honest truth that seems to always escape the memories of our history books.

the only reason it was white men who freed stand up for black men is because the black men that stood up for themselves were punished and disregarded. this is a stupid fucking point especially coming from your side of the spectrum.

I believe in the "teach a man to fish" mantra. BET and Ebony Magazine are not the "teach men to fish" networks. If you want to be considered equal, in any arena (race, business, sports or other) you have to act equal. Don't ask for rules to be changed to accommodate you nor should you ask for special treatment once included. Ask for the same rules and treatment as everyone else and prove your worth.

Another shitty point because the "rules" that were in place were made without equality in mind as a carry over from previous generations. the "status quo" was so because of a more racist time. as society changes, rules change. no way should the status quo remain the same as it always has been.

the parallel to make here is this whole thing going on with schaub and his comments about the all black panel. like, for an analogy, would you not understand that the reason all white panels exist is because of the special treatment white people received because of the oppression of other races? that's the history of the country and things need updating. don't bitch about it just because preferential treatment may not always be given to you now like it would have in the past.

You are essentially saying to them that they are not good enough to move forward "without your help". I happen to think differently.

no, holy shit. what i am saying is that in the past and still at present day, white people have always had that help. I am saying to distribute help equally. you have it in your head that white people deserve everything they get and people of color only get things because they get help. that's completely disregarding history. it's like you live in your own world.

You don't get to decide which one hurts "more", that is up for the guy you called "white trash" and the guy who gets called the "n-word" to decide.

History decided which one "hurts" more. and this is so fucking ironic of you to say because you've spent your time in this thread trying to discredit what a black man (Woodley) decided he felt hurt in regards to racism but here you are saying white people are fully capable of doing so.

you force us who are opposed to that lifestyle to have to explain to our children why their friend "has two daddies"

yeah, do the world a favor and don't parent any children.

done with this one.

 

[Paynebringer]

Woodley knocked out Robbie Lawler when everybody wanted Robbie to destroy him.

Then the fans expected Wonderboy to finish him and he did nothing to Woodley in 10 rounds of fighting.

Then Woodley shut down Demian Maia for 25 minutes with a torn shoulder.


Hate all you want but make no mistake the man is a fighting champion.

Agreed! @BC everybody talking how boring he is but seem to forget how he got that belt by ktfo Robbie. It's up to somebody to break his style. I always ask the same question when this is said, if he's so boring what's the other guy doing..? The times TWood got lit up or loss those guys were fighting him or roiding in the case of Nate.

 

[Lots]

A boring fighter who thinks he’s the best WW of all time and is always accusing me of being a racist.

Whats not to like?

 

[MikalP]

A boring fighter who thinks he’s the best WW of all time and is always accusing me of being a racist.

Whats not to like?

do you remember when the last time he mentioned race was?

why does it plague your mind? it's been over a year since he's gone on record talking about it and it was just him talking about what he gets called on twitter lol. he's had a couple of interviews over his entire career where he's discussed it and that makes dudes like you become incapable of letting it go?

weird stuff dude!

 

[MikalP]

and like, why not break down what he said

“Let’s put the cards on the table, real is real,” Woodley said on ESPN. “If I was a different complexion I think people and fans would treat me a different way.

that's the direct quote that got people all stirred up in his ESPN interview. is there really a disagreement that he would be treated differently? he's cited what he's been called on twitter in terms of racial slurs. if he was white, that wouldn't be possible. so he's immediately proven right. there shouldn't be any dispute there, but for some reason y'all think there is???

after that, he was on the MMA hour with Helwani where Helwani engaged a conversation about race and among a bunch of other things that were said, he highlighted what's been said to him.

“THEN I’VE HAD PEOPLE CALL ME ‘N***ER’ AND MONKEY AND ALL THIS RACIST STUFF. AND I DELETE THE PEOPLE SO THEY’LL CREATE ANOTHER PAGE AND JUST GO BACK OUT. PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO TAKE SO MANY HOURS OF THEIR DAY TO BE SO NEGATIVE… SOME PEOPLE, I LOOK AT THEIR PAGE AND ALL THEY DO ALL DAY IS GO AGAINST AFRICAN-AMERICAN ATHLETES AND TRY TO RACIALLY SLUR THEM.”

(keep in mind both of these are just the snippets of when race was discussed in larger interviews. these are the only times race was brought up. for some reason, people try and misconstrue those interviews into only being about race. they were small parts of the larger conversations.)

guys talk about what they hear on twitter all the time, but because his experience involved being called racist terms it's not allowed to be discussed?

that's literally what people are freaking out about Woodley for, claiming it's all the time and that he's always playing the victim. that's insane. those two small quotes over his entire career. he had been asked about race by other journalists after those quotes - but not within the last year + - and he's answered their questions (is he supposed to say "IM NOT ANSWERING THAT BECAUSE IT MIGHT MAKE SOME WHITE DUDES MAD. ??" but other than that, this outrage about woodley being a race baiter/calling everyone racist/etc is a whole bunch of bullshit made up by sensitive pussies

 

[Lots]

do you remember when the last time he mentioned race was?

why does it plague your mind? it's been over a year since he's gone on record talking about it and it was just him talking about what he gets called on twitter lol. he's had a couple of interviews over his entire career where he's discussed it and that makes dudes like you become incapable of letting it go?

weird stuff dude!

I don’t particularly like or dislike Tyron. Just like I don’t have strong feelings about most fighters in the UFC but his comments, how ever vaguely I remember them, rubbed me the wrong way.

I probably wouldn’t have liked him too much either way but it had nothing to do with him being black. Cormier is one of my favorite fighters.

 

[TrueFightFan]

He's right, white america hates outspoken, "flashy, loud mouthed" black athletes.

But they sure loved joe Namath who was flashy, loud and outspoken. Plus a known party animal.

Cam, Michigan basketball, Miami football, Ali was hated by so many, Hank Aaron received racist death threats his entire career. The list is endless.

The Knicks were called the Ni$$erbockers during the late 70s due to the their all black team. Heck the NBA tried changing their rules many times to stifle how black athletes played the sport and keep white players in the game.

Woodley, is that you? Moron.

 

[TrueFightFan]

TrueFightFan and MikaIP up in this bitch like

Lol! Hey brother, you are spot on! I am Jewish!

 

[TrueFightFan]

and like, why not break down what he said



that's the direct quote that got people all stirred up in his ESPN interview. is there really a disagreement that he would be treated differently? he's cited what he's been called on twitter in terms of racial slurs. if he was white, that wouldn't be possible. so he's immediately proven right. there shouldn't be any dispute there, but for some reason y'all think there is???

after that, he was on the MMA hour with Helwani where Helwani engaged a conversation about race and among a bunch of other things that were said, he highlighted what's been said to him.



(keep in mind both of these are just the snippets of when race was discussed in larger interviews. these are the only times race was brought up. for some reason, people try and misconstrue those interviews into only being about race. they were small parts of the larger conversations.)

guys talk about what they hear on twitter all the time, but because his experience involved being called racist terms it's not allowed to be discussed?

that's literally what people are freaking out about Woodley for, claiming it's all the time and that he's always playing the victim. that's insane. those two small quotes over his entire career. he had been asked about race by other journalists after those quotes - but not within the last year + - and he's answered their questions (is he supposed to say "IM NOT ANSWERING THAT BECAUSE IT MIGHT MAKE SOME WHITE DUDES MAD. ??" but other than that, this outrage about woodley being a race baiter/calling everyone racist/etc is a whole bunch of bullshit made up by sensitive pussies

Are you forgetting that the other boring champion GSP was gladly ushered out of the door by the UFC because he was boring as hell? He was black too, so I get what you are saying. Lay-n-pray was a term coined SPECIFICALLY for GSP and how many people on here have thrown everything at that kid because of his boring fighting style? But if he was black, according to you, he would have a legitimate reason for the hatred. He happens to be white so, fuck him, right?

 

[chuckleknuckle]

If white people are so afraid of a black man speaking his mind, then why did they previously vote for one to be president...

Being black is just an everyday excuse for many folk. Shame.

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

Woodley, is that you? Moron.

Go back to your safe space, your chip is malfunctioning

 

[EndlessCritic]

1: Has been involved in an absurd number of dogshit fights.
2: Didn't deserve the title shot against Lawler
3: Lost to Thompson

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

If white people are so afraid of a black man speaking his mind, then why did they previously vote for one to be president...

Being black is just an everyday excuse for many folk. Shame.

this is a rather dumb post and doesn't take into account actual reality

 

[TrueFightFan]

To anyone who has ever paid attention to african history, the n word is not equivalent to white trash. One has a direct link to oppression and slavery used by the oppressive race towards the oppressed, the other does not and its origins come from inside the same race - particularly the southern states. You are playing the victim.



the only reason it was white men who freed stand up for black men is because the black men that stood up for themselves were punished and disregarded. this is a stupid fucking point especially coming from your side of the spectrum.



Another shitty point because the "rules" that were in place were made without equality in mind as a carry over from previous generations. the "status quo" was so because of a more racist time. as society changes, rules change. no way should the status quo remain the same as it always has been.

the parallel to make here is this whole thing going on with schaub and his comments about the all black panel. like, for an analogy, would you not understand that the reason all white panels exist is because of the special treatment white people received because of the oppression of other races? that's the history of the country and things need updating. don't bitch about it just because preferential treatment may not always be given to you now like it would have in the past.



no, holy shit. what i am saying is that in the past and still at present day, white people have always had that help. I am saying to distribute help equally. you have it in your head that white people deserve everything they get and people of color only get things because they get help. that's completely disregarding history. it's like you live in your own world.



History decided which one "hurts" more. and this is so fucking ironic of you to say because you've spent your time in this thread trying to discredit what a black man (Woodley) decided he felt hurt in regards to racism but here you are saying white people are fully capable of doing so.



yeah, do the world a favor and don't parent any children.

done with this one.

TrueFightFan 3:16 - for @usernamee

I'm going "jon jones" on you in 3-2-1..."May God bless you because you are a fucking moron!"

- The N-word is not an "oppressive" word. It is a racial slur that is meant to either hurt someone's feelings very badly or say hello... "what up my n-----r". You can take it how you want to but you can't place a meaning on that word for everyone. "White trash" is a racist term as it can only be applied to someone who is white but anyone can be called a "N-----r". Sorry that you are having a hard time understanding this and every time someone says it, does it make the "baby cheese sauce" cry?

- another quote from you so that you can read and decide how much moronity you placed in this one...."the only reason it was white men who freed stand up for black men is because the black men that stood up for themselves were punished and disregarded. this is a stupid fucking point especially coming from your side of the spectrum."

Yes, that is the only reason "white men freed black men."

- No one should get preferential treatment based on their race. If you do that, you are a racist, period.

- In regards to "help", I'm using your own words against you. You are saying that a black man can't make it in this world without "whitey lending him a hand." Don't try to change what you said, now. Go back and read your posts. You, honestly, believe that blacks are incapable of fending for themselves without "saints like you" taking care of them.

- I don't believe that "history" is as racist as you are. No book, man or Sherdogger can tell anyone "how they should feel", that is up to the individual, unless you "know better than blacks". Is that what this is about, you know better than they do and have their best interests at heart?

- Lastly, I have 3 wonderful boys whom I am extremely proud of. It is you that has to get your head out of your ass and figure out if you are coming or going before you bring any life into this world. You have to believe in something or you will fall for everything, man. Good God, you are pathetic....

and yes, you are done.

 

[TrueFightFan]

Agreed! @BC everybody talking how boring he is but seem to forget how he got that belt by ktfo Robbie. It's up to somebody to break his style. I always ask the same question when this is said, if he's so boring what's the other guy doing..? The times TWood got lit up or loss those guys were fighting him or roiding in the case of Nate.

He did wipe out Lawler and I think everyone thought he was going to be a "balls to the wall" kind of champion but then he pulled out 3 eggs and proceeded to make an omelette in his last 3 fights. It was more like watching a cooking show with a couple of accidents in between. Fighters get booed all of the time in fights where there is inactivity and his "inactivity" just happens to be in front of the whole world because he is the champion. Is normal. I don't think anyone hates him, it is more like they are just booing him to get him to either respond and fight or get the hell out of the way.

 

[TrueFightFan]

Go back to your safe space, your chip is malfunctioning

I think you might be right.... goodnight, Woodley. Don't take all of this personally. Inactivity earns "boos" in all fights. Yours just happen to be on a world stage.

 

[TrueFightFan]

this is a rather dumb post and doesn't take into account actual reality

Also, reality is this... blacks make up 12% of the population but you need more than 50% to win a presidential election. Who were the other 38%, "imported blacks"?

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

Also, reality is this... blacks make up 12% of the population but you need more than 50% to win a presidential election. Who were the other 38%, "imported blacks"?

What the heck are you talking about

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

1: Has been involved in an absurd number of dogshit fights.
2: Didn't deserve the title shot against Lawler
3: Lost to Thompson

Knocked Lawler the fuck out within seconds and turned Thompson into lunch meat in their first fight.

I have to ask what reality you live in?