Tyron Woodley's Unpopularity Explained by Din Thomas

[TrueFightFan]

you don't watch basketball, do you? any time a european white shooter comes over they rush them into the discussions of being one of the best shooters in the league. on top of that, the white 'bigs' always get big pushes. every single time. in hip hop, did you miss the whole "macklemore getting the best rap album over kendrick lamar" thing? or how many people say eminem is the best rapper of all time? there's no obligation to push people of color, but these aren't valid comparisons is all i'm saying.

i don't think that guy is saying that it's only white guys getting a push, he's saying the white guys are always better received by fans. and it's impossible to argue that he's wrong. white fighters have always been the better draws in the UFC because the UFC's home base is in America - a predominantly white country, and its target demographic from its startup was the white trash demographic who wanted to see sloppy cage fighting. kind of impossible to say that there wouldn't be any carry over from that to now.

Man, you started your response out pretty intellectually but then you earned a big "fuck you" with the "white trash" comment. Tell me, what type of people are the target demographic for Hip-Hop??? I want to hear you describe them with the same racial tone that you used on "white people".... let's see if you have the balls.

 

[MikalP]

Man, you started your response out pretty intellectually but then you earned a big "fuck you" with the "white trash" comment. Tell me, what type of people are the target demographic for Hip-Hop??? I want to hear you describe them with the same racial tone that you used on "white people".... let's see if you have the balls.

depends on the artist. is lil boosie targeting more of a street/gangster audience? yeah, definitely. it's in the lyrics. is a hiphop guy like macklemore? fuck no, that dude's targeting middle age suburban moms and white kids that also listen to maroon 5. there are many different forms of hip hop, and there are many different demographics for it. there weren't, however, many different forms of early UFC nor were there many different target demographics. cage fighting was absolutely marketed towards a white trash demographic in the early UFC's. it was not trying to go head to head with the more prestigious boxing. it was trying to bridge the gap between it and WWF.

oh, and just for the record. this isn't my opinion. you can totally google the UFC's early target audience and what people thought of it/them. lots of results come up with the term white trash being very common among results.

 

[TrueFightFan]

Woodley is a defending champion who speaks against the racism in MMA but of course the majority of the MMA community will be racist towards him via hiding behind the let's spam sarcastic remarks on social media and Youtube videos of everything being racist in order to insult him more.

Some throw in actual racist remarks in there and try to slide it in as part of the sarcasm.

The UFC and dudes are hurt by their great white hopes losing. Hurt by Rashad and Rampage/Chuck, Wonderboy/Woodley twice, Nunes/Shevchenko twice and just recently Cyborg/ Holm.

Shutting down Maia's BJJ ability with supreme TDD just made it even worse.

Clinging onto the only white hope who actually got a UD over Woodley in Rory MacDonald or reaching even further with the roided Nate Marquardt fight earlier in Woodley's career.

This is part of the racism that Woodley is talking about which was confirmed even more so when an MMA podcast lead by former UFC HW Brandon Schuab made a racial twitter post about how the Fox Panel had just black people only.

Justice prevailed though when one of the UFC Fox panellists, legendary MMA veteran Yves Edwards spoke out well against Brandon Schaub and made him apologize for that blatant racist remark on twitter.

Subtle and insidious, holding minorities to different and higher standards just so they can shit on.

Not conforming to racist stereotypes, like the Mandingo fighter or the "thug" or the overthe top arrogant "baller" just to sellfights.

Respect to Woodley for speaking out well against racism in the MMA community and the UFC and for not conform to one of those racial stereotypes.

Did you forget about jon jones, Anderson Silva, Daniel Cormier or Kimbo Slice (RHS)? No one is holding any "minorities" to higher standards, in fact, it may be quite the opposite where you get the racist "that's just how we do" from some black people. You are probably to young to remember Bill Clinton being labeled the "first black president" because of his many inappropriate actions but let's not get into "standards" here. You see it everyday in schools, the workplace and government, where standards are actually lowered to be more inclusive. Is racism dead? Not by a long shot but if some motherfucker, who is barely scraping by in fights that he is clearly just "trying not to lose" in, is complaining because he isn't getting money fights and claiming he is the "best welterweight" ever and if you don't think so is because you are a racist, he can go fuck himself and I wouldn't care if he was white, black or green. Also, if you think "whites" get a pass in the UFC, just ask the guy who fought with the White Power tattoo what the UFC thinks of him? Velasquez is running around with a stupid "brown pride" tattoo and that is ok, but don't let anyone know that you are proud to be white, right?

 

[Muay Thai #1]

For me its the fact that he says he is one of the best UFC WW ever.... and he totally ignores that he got a gift decision against Wonderboy in their 2nd fight

 

[TrueFightFan]

depends on the artist. is lil boosie targeting more of a street/gangster audience? yeah, definitely. it's in the lyrics. is a hiphop guy like macklemore? fuck no, that dude's targeting middle age suburban moms and white kids that also listen to maroon 5. there are many different forms of hip hop, and there are many different demographics for it. there weren't, however, many different forms of early UFC nor were there many different target demographics. cage fighting was absolutely marketed towards a white trash demographic in the early UFC's. it was not trying to go head to head with the more prestigious boxing. it was trying to bridge the gap between it and WWF.

oh, and just for the record. this isn't my opinion. you can totally google the UFC's early target audience and what people thought of it/them. lots of results come up with the term white trash being very common among results.

That's what I thought, you ball-less punk! "UFC targets WHITE TRASH... but Hip-hop goes after 'street/gangster' guys."

When you can see and speak the truth about both sides of the fence, then get back at me but while you are busy playing a "PC tough guy", get the hell out of here.

 

[MikalP]

That's what I thought, you ball-less punk! "UFC targets WHITE TRASH... but Hip-hop goes after 'street/gangster' guys."

When you can see and speak the truth about both sides of the fence, then get back at me but while you are busy playing a "PC tough guy", get the hell out of here.

Lmao what the fuck does that even mean why are you so triggered

 

[TrueFightFan]

Lmao what the fuck does that even mean why are you so triggered

Let's see, you called the white guys "white trash" and you called the black guys "street/gangster"... I asked you to tell me what is wrong with that picture but you can't, because YOU, SIR, are a racist.

 

[SomniumRabidum]

Racism is a very real problem in America.

Tyrone Woodley is a douche.

These two things are not mutually exclusive.

 

[Gluhov]

Din is being disingenuous. Tyrons whole persona is to try and annoy anyone who isnt black. Why wont Woodley admit it?

 

[MikalP]

Let's see, you called the white guys "white trash" and you called the black guys "street/gangster"... I asked you to tell me what is wrong with that picture but you can't, because YOU, SIR, are a racist.

There is literally nothing wrong with that picture unless you think white trash has a different equivalency, which is probably just you being triggered trying to equate it to something worse than it is

You also inaccurately summarized what I said in your sensitive hissyfit but at this point I don't have much in the way of expectations for you

 

[Vegesus44]

There is a difference between just speaking your mind and just being wrong though.
The latter applies to T Woodley.

 

[MikalP]

Din is being disingenuous. Tyrons whole persona is to try and annoy anyone who isnt black. Why wont Woodley admit it?

Probably because the only way you could think that is if you're a triggered conservative still crying over something he said over a year ago

 

[TrueFightFan]

There is literally nothing wrong with that picture unless you think white trash has a different equivalency, which is probably just you being triggered trying to equate it to something worse than it is

You also inaccurately summarized what I said in your sensitive hissyfit but at this point I don't have much in the way of expectations for you

To a racist, like you, there is nothing wrong with that picture. That probably summarizes what is wrong with the race relations of today, especially when it comes to morons, like you. White people are to "white trash" what Black people are to _______? I'll see if you can pull your panties up high enough to answer that properly.

Edit: you probably don't think you would offend someone by calling them "white trash", do you? Whereas, calling someone "street/ganster" is actually something that certain people see as a compliment.

 

[JinKazama]

meh, tie between boring/annoying

 

[MikalP]

To a racist, like you, there is nothing wrong with that picture. That probably summarizes what is wrong with the race relations of today, especially when it comes to morons, like you. White people are to "white trash" what Black people are to _______? I'll see if you can pull your panties up high enough to answer that properly.

That is the dumbest equivalency I've ever heard. You're embarassing white people

 

[TrueFightFan]

That is the dumbest equivalency I've ever heard

To a racist moron, like yourself, it probably is.

How many white guys do you know that would let you call them "white trash"? How many black guys do you know that would let you call them "street/gangster"?

You might actually be too stupid to grasp what I'm trying to get you to understand.

 

[basedgodfedor]

Hell yeah I can relate to running pregnant chicks over

 

[MikalP]

To a racist moron, like yourself, it probably is.

How many white guys do you know that would let you call them "white trash"? How many black guys do you know that would let you call them "street/gangster"?

You might actually be too stupid to grasp what I'm trying to get you to understand.

Lmao, i've addressed the shitty point you've been trying to make. I'm not going to continue to do so just because you insist on repeating it.

What's hilarious is how you just spent your time bitching about Woodley, detracting from him for bringing up racism over a year ago when he was harassed with racial slurs over his social media platforms and now here you are resorting to claiming racism unironically all because I gave you a little lesson on target demographics (and now you're trying to make it seem like certain demographics being called white trash is on equal grounds with what black people get called lmao)

Poor threatened, sensitive little conservative

 

[Snowfist]

Jon Jones running over pregnant ladies and then discussing it in the Ariel Helwani interview showing total disregard for the woman and only worrying about getting caught.

That made him inhuman to me. Psychopathic actually.

 

[RogerD]

If Tyron had the personality of krazy horse, he would be so popular he'd have a wwe job locked in like rousey, but he ain't. Hes like a prizewinning grapefruit at the farmers fair, amazing but still very bitter