Two thoughts on draws

You win the belt if you beat the champ, and you don't if you fail to beat him.

Judges are meant to be representing us all in terms of opinion on a fight, whatever the majority decides goes. It's not about 3 people cancelling each other out.
 
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Volador said:
Yes, just like when King Solomon offered to divide the child between the two mothers to find out who truly felt motherly love, Dana should come in the cage and offer to cut the belt in half with a saber. Whichever fighter is willing to give up being champion to save the integrity of the belt, is the true champion in people’s hearts and the righteous belt holder.

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If both are ok with splitting the belt, neither of them deserves it and the belt should be vacant until the next fight.
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Lol that's funny but vacant belts are boring
If an immediate rematch doesn't happen splitting the belt lets you hype two different fights. And the eventual unification fight would also be incredibly hype with both fighters bringing their pieces back to the cage for a literal unification of the belts
 
Sticko said:
it's either a push and they cancel the bet or you lose the bet. But I don't do sports betting so I don't know. In soccer where draws happen all the time I think you would just lose the bet.
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Yeah soccer is a 3 way money line
Either (Team) 1, X (draw), or (Team) 2

In MMA you can bet on a draw, however, when you pick a winner it does not count as a 3 way bet, it is simply Fighter X vs Fighter Y
A draw would be a push in that case
 
A draw is still a title defense for the champion because you did not TAKE the belt from him. So a draw favors a champion. Can’t wait for the rematch, this fight was lit.
 
Nah I get what you mean, but it would defeat the point of having multiple judges, it's supposed to be majority vote wins. What if the other judge is a fool and thinks the wrong man won? Then one fools decision overrides two other people who were closer to the mark. Think as a rule you're always better off going by majority, but you made some good points.

As far as asterisk, imo It's a legit defense, if I have my wallet and you want to take it, and we fight and we both can't continue, or we both do equal damage to each other, I still have my wallet, so I defended it successfully
 
Jose Beehive said:
I rate draws and think they should be more frequent, as i've harped on about on here for a long time now... I suppose it would be kind of fair to give Moreno the Interim? or not, dunno bout that not thought about it..

In terms of Majority Draws, I am still in favour of them.
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I think they can just make a rematch. You should not be made Interim champ off a draw. All or nothin baby
 
HHJ said:
I think they can just make a rematch. You should not be made Interim champ off a draw. All or nothin baby
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I mean either or/same effect really, I just think it would be crazy if Moreno didn't get that guaranteed rematch, and an Interim would/should guarantee it. If a draw meant he gets the interim and a rematch vs not getting the interim and they make Cody vs Fig instead, then i'd favour the prior option (Hypothetically of course, it's obviously not the case)... I don't really see how any Interim Champ in history could really be more deserved of a title match than Moreno is right now.

A draw vs Current Champ means more than a win over Al Iaquinta for the belt imo.
 
Jose Beehive said:
I mean either or/same effect really, I just think it would be crazy if Moreno didn't get that guaranteed rematch, and an Interim would/should guarantee it. If a draw meant he gets the interim and a rematch vs not getting the interim and they make Cody vs Fig instead, then i'd favour the prior option (Hypothetically of course, it's obviously not the case)... I don't really see how any Interim Champ in history could really be more deserved of a title match than Moreno is right now.

A draw vs Current Champ means more than a win over Al Iaquinta for the belt imo.
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No need to take shots at Khabib. Anything happened after that showed hes the one true Paterfamilias at 155 and still is.

Moreno will get the match I think. Most people are keen on seeing them fight again after that beaut they just had.
 
HHJ said:
No need to take shots at Khabib. Anything happened after that showed hes the one true Paterfamilias at 155 and still is.

Moreno will get the match I think. Most people are keen on seeing them fight again after that beaut they just had.
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I love Khabib, just think the way he won the belt wasn't quite by my estimation an "All Or Nothing" compared to actually fighting and drawing against an undisputed champion.. No discredit, he did what he had to, it's the company i'm taking a shot at. It's not a great example anyway, theres plenty better with regards to Interims specifically.

I hope you're right, i'd like to see a poll of who folks here would rather see Fig fight next for more reassurance lol.
 
Jose Beehive said:
I love Khabib, just think the way he won the belt wasn't quite by my estimation an "All Or Nothing" compared to actually fighting and drawing against an undisputed champion.. No discredit, he did what he had to, it's the company i'm taking a shot at. It's not a great example anyway, theres plenty better with regards to Interims specifically.

I hope you're right, i'd like to see a poll of who folks here would rather see Fig fight next for more reassurance lol.
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What do you think the UFC should have done in that situation? They had to make the best of a bad deal.
 
Jose Beehive said:
I love Khabib, just think the way he won the belt wasn't quite by my estimation an "All Or Nothing" compared to actually fighting and drawing against an undisputed champion.. No discredit, he did what he had to, it's the company i'm taking a shot at. It's not a great example anyway, theres plenty better with regards to Interims specifically.

I hope you're right, i'd like to see a poll of who folks here would rather see Fig fight next for more reassurance lol.
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We got a full on fuckin rivalry now between Figgy Smalls and Moreno. Cant put that back in the box now.
 
HHJ said:
What do you think the UFC should have done in that situation? They had to make the best of a bad deal.
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Not sure, I'd have probably cancelled the fight instead of making his title win last minute against a dude who had just come off a win against Diego Sanchez, who had just beaten Marcin Held.
 
Jose Beehive said:
Not sure, I'd have probably cancelled the fight instead of making his title win last minute against a dude who had just come off a win against Diego Sanchez, who had just beaten Marcin Held.
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They couldnt cancel it. After the Conor fiasco just a few days earlier they had to go all in. Got to captialize on the pandemonium which eventually led to the highest grossing ppv in MMA history

EDIT: Plus there was already 3 other fights cancelled on that card due to conor's schenanigans
 
HHJ said:
We got a full on fuckin rivalry now between Figgy Smalls and Moreno. Cant put that back in the box now.
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Of course, but dudes like Cejudo and Cody seem like wildcards in what ever opportunities they might get. Who knows maybe more people would rather see Cody's Flyweight Debut, or Cejudo's return, wouldn't be the first time they've gone with that kind of matchup over a logical one.
 
Jose Beehive said:
Of course, but dudes like Cejudo and Cody seem like wildcards in what ever opportunities they might get. Who knows maybe more people would rather see Cody's Flyweight Debut, or Cejudo's return, wouldn't be the first time they've gone with that kind of matchup over a logical one.
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I think cody and/or cejudo can wait to challenge the winner after the match,if anything
 
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