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tTop ten mma fighters most likely to suffer TBI/TBE

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I’m sure this will be a controversial subject on this board. We all know that brain injuries from repeated concussive events can lead to changes in the brain that are generally permanent and endlessly devastating. From Muhammad Ali to Junior Seau this disease has devastated fans, loved ones and families. Since MMA is in i’
ts infancy compared to other high risk sports, we are now just beginning to see the impact on fighters. I have left out in my list gray area fighters these are fighters that I feel most likely have underlying mental health issues prior to fighting and/or substance abuse issues. I have no doubt that Mayhem and War Machine have TBI/TBE but confounded by bipolar disorder and substance abuse.

1) Mark Hunt. He has already clearly stated he suffers all the symptoms. Love the guy, true warrior but has fought so long and so many repeated shots in both mma and kB/pride I feel he would be at the top. When someone becomes that impulsive with swings of rage (the ufc has f’d him) are help this decision.

2) Chuck Liddell. All time great. Possible alcohol use but the string of severe ko losses and rumored intense sparing and fighting all his life do not look good. Hearing him speak is very sad.

3) Don Frye. Well noted in decline and the brain buster taka fight alone would subject someone.

4) Ken Shamrock. One of the great pioneers of the sport. PED user but we don’t know how that factors in the CNS (central nervous system) but certainly prolonged his career and times concussed and KO’d.

5) Wanderlei. PEDS and possible substance abuse here. I had Saku number four but difficult when you don’t know the behavioral changes. So many it’s wars here. Showing signs of severe impairment of judgement. (Opinion on my part, I only see media).

6) Sakuraba. Love the guy as a fighter and entertainer. I don’t know of many fighters who have been concussed more than this all time great.

7) Big Nog. Granted has a big nog but not quite like Bigfoot or super Samoan but so many years can take hits and for so many years. Notes significant changes in speech on interviews.

8) Gary Goodrich. One of the pioneers long brutal career in kickboxing and mma and ko’d more than can recall

9) Diego Sanchez. Polarizing guy at first, liked him or not, now most would probably say despite the past, he has made great fights. Always an entertaining fight. When you see formerly iron chins drop in a fighter that in every fight goes to war with reckless abandon start to fail, it’s not good. Brutal KO’s in the past several fights, and as far as I know still willing for more is is not a good sign.

10) I was thinking the Reem here due to his career length and some brutal knockouts, but I don’t think he has taken the repeated head trauma of the others. “UBEREEM” was having minimal damage and fights ended in seconds. Overeem had some slobber knockers butvrearely. Generally bit not hit much except for a single ouch. The last KO was brutal but kit repeated blows. He still seems to have his wits and clarity of speech and engagement seem fine. I put arlovski here as well as typically it’s a few strikes either way. So I am finishing with a tie. Chris Leben and Joe Riggs. Subsatan e abuse and peds may come into play with these two but both started young and ended up after many brutal fights changed

This list was thrown out of the top my head with no real research. I apologize if this is offensive as obviously a sad but true reality of this sport. I have no clinical evidence regarding these fighters and no offense. These guys put their lives in the line to entertain us. I apologize for any false assumption in the post. Upmost wishes to these fighters. We are understanding brain injuries and I hope in the near future, regulations and testing will continue to progress, and possibly treatments for those who are suffering.
 
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I don't think there were that many devastating strikes on Frye vs Takayama. There were alot of hits that caused bruises etc. but not the worst scenario for head trauma. I'd be more worried about guys with iron chin who didn't got koes in worst situations. I think glass chin might save your brain from greater punishment. There are guys who's fights weren't stopped when they were taking way too much punishment.

So I'd say guys who HAD iron chin. But on later on their career went from iron to glass chin.
 
Shamrock is pretty sharp for a guy that was known for no holds barred chair shoots in pro wrestling. He didn't take much damage in MMA IMO because he always found a way to lose before taking any damage. His last ten KO/TKO loses all look super fishy to me..IMO he was just making money and fixing fights..

I think Fedor is getting near brain damage territory..Fedor's fight against Maldona was horrible. He was concused but had to fight on pure adrenaline for two rounds..His corner should have stopped it.

Shogun also had two fights with Henderson that gave him brain damage.

Chris Weidman is another guy that has been looking brain damaged latetly. He took incredible punishment vs Rockhold and then he took and incredible blow in his next fight vs Romero and then he got KO'd by Mousasi

Ninja Rua took on Kharitonov and rumor was it that Kharitonov gave him brain damage...I believe it..

I wonder how real CTE is..pro fighters tend to have poor speech as a whole
 
The fact that people try to make blanket statements about the health of someone's brain without any kind of non-Wikipedia-research medical knowledge and without actually meeting them and having a face-to-face session with them, and basing their argument solely on videos, shows everything that's wrong with the MMA fan community.

And the fact that Ken Shamrock's above Gary Goodridge shows that there really wasn't much thought or research put into the list. I mean, if you're GONNA go by video evidence...



 
Brawldinaldo
Guy looks punch drunk always. Even fights like he's punch drunk.
Some how still kicks ass too
 
The fact that people try to make blanket statements about the health of someone's brain without any kind of non-Wikipedia-research medical knowledge and without actually meeting them and having a face-to-face session with them, and basing their argument solely on videos, shows everything that's wrong with the MMA fan community.

And the fact that Ken Shamrock's above Gary Goodridge shows that there really wasn't much thought or research put into the list. I mean, if you're GONNA go by video evidence...



Exactly! If the TS had put the slightest thought into this, Goodridge would be at the top.
 
not a super relevant list i was thinking
Jamie Varners cat scan years ago said his brain looked like a 70yr olds with pre dementia
Obviously Mark Hunt
its hard to tell with Nate but for sure think hes down the road
Diego sanchez
Rory just seems to absorb damage these days
 
I can definitely see Rory developing some symptoms later on in his career. The Lawler fight alone probably took a few years off.
 
The most surprising thing about this to me is that Jordan Parsons had it. He was only 25, 11-2 with one T/KO loss. If someone like that gets it, then I feel like pretty much every MMA fighter/boxer/NFL player/etc will get it, and/or there is some large genetic predisposition to getting or not getting it.
 
Shamrock will live to be a crazy bastard until he is 90 with no problems other than arthritis/pain from a life of competing.
 
Fucking love Olaf. One of my top 5 all time favorites.

I always loved his pre fight interview for the Mach fight. Talking about getting his nose broken by a female mexican boxer prepping for the fight and just prepared by playing in the woods swinging from trees, swimming in lakes
 
Semi related but K1 champ Mike Bernardo committed suicide years after retiring.
 
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