Try to define 'fake news'.

[Fawlty]

The term refers to shit that's actually made up, like Pizzagate, Soros paying rioters, the pope endorsing Trump, etc.--the kind of stuff you see in chain mails and on Facebook. Propagandists are trying to drain it of meaning by overusing it and using it to refer to anything that doesn't confirm their biases or any error in real news.

This. Fake news is fake news. Fabricated stories. It's an easy definition. The people perpetrating most of our fake news were broke ass foreign kids (see Macedonia) and they were making decent money so I can't blame them.

The editing of the Zimmerman tape was one of the few examples of distortion from the MSM that was so bad that I think falls under something like "fake" news (it's not fake news in the same way as Pope Endorses Trump), though it turns out later to have been an accurate characterization of Zimmerman.

 

[Egelo]

Syrian refeguess

Biggest fake news iv seen all year.

 

[EndlessCritic]

When I took journalism in college many years ago, we were taught to report by getting the who, what, where, when, and why, and to relay that to the reader/viewer/listener as succinctly and descriptively as possible without coloring that information with our opinion. Opinion didn't have a place in news. Opinion was for the editorial page.

What passes for current "news" bears little resemblance to this.

"Fake news" is at this point either just a redundant term due to the editorialization and slant that is embedded in most stories, or even worse, also factually inaccurate. So basically fiction, or propaganda. Stories meant to entertain, or grab attention just to generate revenue (clickbait) or meant to sway opinion.

You've hit the nail on the head.

Opinion which masquerades as news has become the norm on both sides.

 

[Fawlty]

"Hands Up Don't Shoot" or editing the tape in the Travon story to say...."he looks black"

Hands up don't shoot wasn't fake news. It was a lie that was spread by a witness and it caught on, but it wasn't invented by the media.

 

[Jack V Savage]

This. Fake news is fake news. Fabricated stories. It's an easy definition. The people perpetrating most of our fake news were broke ass foreign kids (see Macedonia) and they were making decent money so I can't blame them.

What's frustrating is that the term was created to describe a real thing that is a problem--people making shit up for clicks that fools partisans because they want it to be true. But just a short time later, thanks to deliberate propaganda, you have people who define it as real news that they consider to be biased, and thus it has again become difficult to talk about the initial problem. This is an assault on independent thought.

 

[SMEAC]

Hack opining on this is hilarious

Fake news is shit like onion and actual click bait, not shit you disagree with

Hell fucking Hack thinks it was the MSM that tanked Hill

 

[Unsurprised Diaz]

As soon as I sense an agenda it is pushing into the realm of fake news. Real news has no agenda except to inform you of events.

 

[chardog]

facebook and the like have openly claimed that there is a difference between fake news, and bad news.

fake news is intentionally false bs, just designed to get page hits. click bait.

click bait is a good way to put it, but intentionally bs........ hard to say

we just went through the intentionally bs presidential campaign.

 

[chardog]

Hack opining on this is hilarious

Fake news is shit like onion and actual click bait, not shit you disagree with

Hell fucking Hack thinks it was the MSM that tanked Hill

hey, stop it, I'm enjoying his grand delusions

 

[SMEAC]

hey, stop it, I'm enjoying his grand delusions

Well he is like a funnier SNL

 

[Whippy McGee]

The electoral college story was "fake news". It didn't matter for shit. Even if they failed, then it went to the Republican Congress, who by law can only choose from the top 3 electoral vote getters from the original election which means Trump or Clinton. They would have never picked Clinton as they are Republicans and want to keep their jobs. It was always Trump. This "fake news" was created to undermine Trump. They never told us that angle, thus what they were reporting was "fake".

Fake news is OMG the Russians! Not one shred of proof has been offered.

 

[chardog]

This. Fake news is fake news. Fabricated stories. It's an easy definition. The people perpetrating most of our fake news were broke ass foreign kids (see Macedonia) and they were making decent money so I can't blame them.

The editing of the Zimmerman tape was one of the few examples of distortion from the MSM that was so bad that I think falls under something like "fake" news (it's not fake news in the same way as Pope Endorses Trump), though it turns out later to have been an accurate characterization of Zimmerman.

media did perpetuate hands up dont shoot....



it's really no different than pizzagate conspiracy in the way it spread.... pizzagate just a theory, not even a mainstream one, hands up dont shoot completely debunked.

 

[ripskater]

Fake News: Anything the left and globalists do not want you to hear.

 

[Big_Chief_Stove]

The term refers to shit that's actually made up, like Pizzagate, Soros paying rioters, the pope endorsing Trump, etc.--the kind of stuff you see in chain mails and on Facebook. Propagandists are trying to drain it of meaning by overusing it and using it to refer to anything that doesn't confirm their biases or any error in real news.

Everyone says Pizzagate has been debunked...how and where?

The wikileaks emails are real, the scenarios people come up with are only theories, but how can you discredit the emails? There's something creepy that they're trying to cover up. Whatever it is.

 

[Big_Chief_Stove]

Fake News: Anything the left and globalists do not want you to hear.

YES

 

[j123]

Fake news?

• Conor McGregor subs with a Sambo Leg Knot, while KOing Woodley at the same time!
• UFC encourages lay n pray over KOs/Subs
• BREAKING NEWS: Being stuck in the friendzone is a testament to greatness and will guarantte secks from said Boise dime while cucking involved "jerk/asshole"
• Ripskater is secretly a Muslim
• Campaign Managers hate this guy! Find out how he won the 2016 election with these 3 secret methods to success

 

[Kalmah]

The term refers to shit that's actually made up, like Pizzagate, Soros paying rioters, the pope endorsing Trump, etc.--the kind of stuff you see in chain mails and on Facebook. Propagandists are trying to drain it of meaning by overusing it and using it to refer to anything that doesn't confirm their biases or any error in real news.

What do the Amish lobby, gay wedding vans and the ban of the national anthem have in common? For starters, they’re all make-believe — and invented by the same man.

Paul Horner, the 38-year-old impresario of a Facebook fake-news empire, has made his living off viral news hoaxes for several years. He has twice convinced the Internet that he’s British graffiti artist Banksy; he also published the very viral, very fake news of a Yelp vs. “South Park” lawsuit last year.

But in recent months, Horner has found the fake-news ecosystem growing more crowded, more political and vastly more influential: In March, Donald Trump’s son Eric and his then-campaign manager, Corey Lewandowski, even tweeted links to one of Horner’s faux-articles. His stories have also appeared as news on Google.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...e-house-because-of-me/?utm_term=.aa17ed79c8b2

 

[Cmart]

What's frustrating is that the term was created to describe a real thing that is a problem--people making shit up for clicks that fools partisans because they want it to be true. But just a short time later, thanks to deliberate propaganda, you have people who define it as real news that they consider to be biased, and thus it has again become difficult to talk about the initial problem. This is an assault on independent thought.

Counterpoint: Biased stories with a consistent political slant, which may not be technically false but selectively omit information and describe events in a manner colored by opinion, when portrayed as news, are as much "an assault on independent thought" as outright fabrications. Every really good lie has elements of truth in it.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Counterpoint: Biased stories with a consistent political slant, which may not be technically false but selectively omit information and describe events in a manner colored by opinion, when portrayed as news, are as much "an assault on independent thought" as outright fabrications. Every really good lie has elements of truth in it.

This misses the point. You can object to that stuff with other terms. Fake news refers to fake news, not to stuff that "may not be technically false but selectively omit(s) information..." When you use the same term to refer to separate things, it becomes harder to communicate and think clearly, which is the point of language.

 

[HomerThompson]

Counterpoint: Biased stories with a consistent political slant, which may not be technically false but selectively omit information and describe events in a manner colored by opinion, when portrayed as news, are as much "an assault on independent thought" as outright fabrications. Every really good lie has elements of truth in it.

I believe what you're describing is commonly referred to as propaganda.