Trumps tweet following Washington train crash

[Throttlehead]

Does it matter to you that Trump(spicer) claimed it was the biggest inauguration audience ever and not crowd? Given TV and internet wouldn't that more than likely be a true statement?

You are learning to lie just like the con man, what an idiot.

 

[TheComebackKid]

You're grasping at straws here.

Lol

 

[TheComebackKid]

Oh ok, so you really have no reason to doubt that "US media outlets pointed out his submitted federal transportation budget actually proposed cuts to funding to national rail systems."

You're just guessing and hoping, but you'e sure enough to lambaste anyone who believes the people who have actually read it.

No, I have plenty of reason to doubt them. They lie about everything.

 

[computer fogie]

No, I have plenty of reason to doubt them. They lie about everything.

So Trump tells the truth and the media all tell lies about what he says, is that what you really truly believe? If so, I can only say that I'm sorry for you. How did you get so fooled by the biggest charlatan in modern US political history?

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42408624

"President Donald Trump's first reaction to the derailment was to tweet that it showed the need for his forthcoming infrastructure plan.

However US media outlets pointed out his submitted federal transportation budget actually proposed cuts to funding to national rail systems."

This disgusts me. That slimy bastard had the nerve to use this tragedy to try to score political points, which is bad enough. But to add insult to injury, he lied, as usual. He just can't' tell the truth about anything, and doesn't seem to care how much of a sleazy asshole he makes of himself.

Can anyone trust this guy to tell us any truth at all? If so, where does your trust come from?

I don't think it needs the 'lie' explanation, simple stupidity will do : he didn't know what was in his own plan.

 

[InternetHero]

I don't think he politicized it. I think he just reinforced an idea he's been pushing since before he ran for office...that we need to fix our infrastructure. (1)



I don't think it was either dignified or undignified. I think the media and leftists who lost their minds over the claim and passed fake pictures around twitter are the ones who turned this into a spectacle. Trump(spicer) just made a claim. (2)



You shouldn't call people deplorable IH. We could say some things about you that wouldn't be so nice. (3)



Well it depends on which American Conservative movement you're talking about. If you mean your traditional Bush/McCain republicanism...well you can sink all that shit. (3)

1. I have to say, taking a tragedy and boasting "this is why you need my plan..." as the POTUS is kind of my definition of politicization, and I get the feeling a lot of people might agree with me.

That is important in a democracy.

2. Ah, but, it is not just "leftists" who are upset.

Trump's approval is... poor... in many places to put in mildly, and even with some structural advantages in the electoral college, losing most Independents in 4 years would not be wise, and losing most in midterm elections is about to look disastrous.

3.

A. You know I did not mean "Deplorables" as a pejorative, I mean it as his followers mean it, a badge of honor.

B. The "Establishment" fiasco is 7% an intramovement battle, mostly related to lies and slander, Mitch McConnell and even the most voracious of "RHINOs" are not the arch foes of the right and ruining the dreams of "real" Conservatives.

Sabotaging the political class and political thinkers of a movement to satisfy the ideological purity of the Conservative movement is a slow motion disaster.

All the Roy Moores or Allen West's in the world, or Ann Coulter's and Sean Hannity's for that matter will not build the ideas or governance to take on anything, let alone American politics or the deeper culture wars the right is so busy losing.

 

[TheComebackKid]

So Trump tells the truth and the media all tell lies about what he says, is that what you really truly believe? If so, I can only say that I'm sorry for you. How did you get so fooled by the biggest charlatan in modern US political history?

Well I don't believe everything Trump says is the truth. But he has a much better track record than CNN, MSNBC, Fox, NYT, and so many others. He even has a better track record than ComputerFogie. I mean you can't even admit the thing about the inauguration. You insist on spreading lies just like they do.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

I don't have the details hence why I'm not sharing an opinion about it. Seems like the prudent thing to do.

"That was the largest audience to witness an inauguration, period."
— Sean Spicer on Saturday, January 21st, 2017 in a press conference

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...had-biggest-inaugural-crowd-ever-metrics-don/

Notice they quote him saying audience but still but "crowd" in the headline. You got to watch out for that fake news.

Well I don't believe everything Trump says is the truth. But he has a much better track record than CNN, MSNBC, Fox, NYT, and so many others. He even has a better track record than ComputerFogie. I mean you can't even admit the thing about the inauguration. You insist on spreading lies just like they do.

 

[Son of Jamin]

I don't want to derail this thread by calling this a train wreck.

 

[dfoster]

use this tragedy to try to score political points

score political points... for the good is a good thing. That's why politicians get into politics in the perfect world. Our world is so fucked that people become cynical about everything. Something's wrong with our world, you wanna fix it, you tell people about it. Trump tweets after terrorist attacks too: how we can change to prevent tragedies.

 

[Deleted member 429137]

score political points... for the good is a good thing. That's why politicians get into politics in the perfect world. Our world is so fucked that people become cynical about everything. Something's wrong with our world, you wanna fix it, you tell people about it. Trump tweets after terrorist attacks too: how we can change to prevent tragedies.

this was breathtaking

 

[InternetHero]

I don't think it needs the 'lie' explanation, simple stupidity will do : he didn't know what was in his own plan.

I disagree by half, but only on the nature of the ignorance.He may not be able to understand, but he also does not want to understand.

The President is literally "too busy" watching himself on the news.

 

[TheComebackKid]

1. I have to say, taking a tragedy and boasting "this is why you need my plan..." as the POTUS is kind of my definition of politicization, and I get the feeling a lot of people might agree with me.

That is important in a democracy.

I don't think he was boasting. Perhaps he should have considered that there are many people predisposed to interpreting everything he says and does through a Hitler lens and not made the tweet. I can agree with that.

2. Ah, but, it is not just "leftists" who are upset.

Trump's approval is... poor... in many places to put in mildly, and even with some structural advantages in the electoral college, losing most Independents in 4 years would not be wise, and losing most in midterm elections is about to look disastrous.

What does this have to do with leftists losing their minds and passing fake pictures around? I never claimed you guys are upset(although you are) and I never claimed his approval rating isn't low(although its not). I was talking about audience sizes.

B. The "Establishment" fiasco is 7% an intramovement battle, mostly related to lies and slander, Mitch McConnell and even the most voracious of "RHINOs" are not the arch foes of the right and ruining the dreams of "real" Conservatives.

Sabotaging the political class and political thinkers of a movement to satisfy the ideological purity of the Conservative movement is a slow motion disaster.

Did you just call Mitch McConnell a "political thinker" of a movement? This is where the disconnect comes in. You guys have more respect for Republicans than republican voters. And its because you have more respect and reverence for the establishment and government as a whole.

This political class(from both parties) you speak of brought us the Iraq war, trillions in debt, police state surveillance, economic turmoil, and so many other wonderful things.

How has our political establishment been anything other than a slow motion disaster for decades IH? Riddle me that one.

All the Roy Moores or Allen West's in the world, or Ann Coulter's and Sean Hannity's for that matter will not build the ideas or governance to take on anything, let alone American politics or the deeper culture wars the right is so busy losing.

Not that I would vouch for any of the names listed I must say that the "deplorable" crowd has managed to win the presidency, the congress, and reshape the republican party(well trying anyway). And they are now in the process of reshaping the country and some of the world. They're not doing too bad IH.

Meanwhile the Democratic and Republican establishment are pushing what ideas exactly?

 

[HIMBOB]

I didn't think you could become president without a tact.

I was wrong.

 

[Deleted member 457759]

Yes TS it was all planned!!!!

He probably trusted it in someone else and they didn't do what he wanted.

 

[InternetHero]

I don't think he was boasting. Perhaps he should have considered that there are many people predisposed to interpreting everything he says and does through a Hitler lens and not made the tweet. I can agree with that. (1)



What does this have to do with leftists losing their minds and passing fake pictures around? I never claimed you guys are upset(although you are) and I never claimed his approval rating isn't low(although its not). I was talking about audience sizes. (2)




Did you just call Mitch McConnell a "political thinker" of a movement? This is where the disconnect comes in. You guys have more respect for Republicans than republican voters. And its because you have more respect and reverence for the establishment and government as a whole. (3)

This political class(from both parties) you speak of brought us the Iraq war, trillions in debt, police state surveillance, economic turmoil, and so many other wonderful things.

How has our political establishment been anything other than a slow motion disaster for decades IH? Riddle me that one. (4)



Not that I would vouch for any of the names listed I must say that the "deplorable" crowd has managed to win the presidency, the congress, and reshape the republican party(well trying anyway). And they are now in the process of reshaping the country and some of the world. They're not doing too bad IH.

Meanwhile the Democratic and Republican establishment are pushing what ideas exactly?

1. His antics make it eternally easy to demonize Trump.

2. The problem is the perception, and much of America perceives Donald Trump as a questionable leader. Yes the media is partially to blame, but so is Donald Trump.

3. Mitch McConnell is a political leader and attained that status through political action in a difficult political landscape. Three Roy Moores, neigh, a dozen could not achieve what he could achieve as a political operator.

He is not an intellectual, I made that comment desperate as Bannon has made all ends of the thinking, moderate, or else pragmatic end of the right "establishment types" who are "against us" and corrupt by default. That is not the way politics is or has ever worked, he is fooling people by saying that because they want to believe this is so simple, and he wants more power, as do the other talking Hannity heads.

All talk, no substance does not a revolution make.

4. Yes the establishment sucks, but, all government states need real leaders, intellectuals, activists, and followers to play their part.

If they all choose a man who is serial liar, debased in terms of ideas, incompetent at running the shallow or deep state, inspires destructive activists, further rejects the intellectuals who make the ideas, and haves the followers march to the drum of winning at all costs, the "system" be damned, then the whole right may die on the charge up Trump Hill.

Trust me, I do not want to score points or win anything or enjoy "Right wing tears" or anything else debased.

I in fact would like to see some of the cultural principles and ideas of the American right succeed, but Donald Trump is a false Prophet selling a false notion, and the sooner we can see the emperor has no clothes, the sooner the right can don a sense of respectability again.

 

[Phisher]

It wasn't even a matter of infrastructure. Apparently the train was going way too fast.

Gee, that sounds like a safety issue that could be handled via the regulators.

Too bad Trump doesn't believe that any regulations should exist.

 

[curryjunkie]

tasteful as ever mr president

 

[computer fogie]

...What does this have to do with leftists losing their minds and passing fake pictures around? I never claimed you guys are upset(although you are) and I never claimed his approval rating isn't low(although its not)....

You never said we were upset, just that "we're losing our minds" and "frothing at the mouth". Did you just tell the truth, in your view?

His approval rating is NOT low?!?!?!? So all the polls are fake news? You're so deep into Trump that you're not even making sense here.

 

[TheComebackKid]

You never said we were upset, just that "we're losing our minds" and "frothing at the mouth". Did you just tell the truth, in your view?

Yes. I was describing you guys as hysterical and crazed. Thats not quite the same as upset. But like I said in the post you quoted...I do think you guys are upset along with crazed and hysterical.

His approval rating is NOT low?!?!?!? So all the polls are fake news? You're so deep into Trump that you're not even making sense here.

I believe his approval rating is much higher than polls indicate. Just like I thought he had a much better chance to win the presidency than polls indicated.

 

[JonnyRingo84]

Do you have the full details?

i do.

the trillion will be spent largely on the wall. he didnt spell that out as being a part of our new "infrastructure." i thought we were getting new bridges and such.