Trumps tweet following Washington train crash

[computer fogie]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42408624

"President Donald Trump's first reaction to the derailment was to tweet that it showed the need for his forthcoming infrastructure plan.

However US media outlets pointed out his submitted federal transportation budget actually proposed cuts to funding to national rail systems."

This disgusts me. That slimy bastard had the nerve to use this tragedy to try to score political points, which is bad enough. But to add insult to injury, he lied, as usual. He just can't' tell the truth about anything, and doesn't seem to care how much of a sleazy asshole he makes of himself.

Can anyone trust this guy to tell us any truth at all? If so, where does your trust come from?

 

[TheComebackKid]

Perhaps you should get the full details of his plan before frothing at the mouth about it?

 

[Throttlehead]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42408624

"President Donald Trump's first reaction to the derailment was to tweet that it showed the need for his forthcoming infrastructure plan.

However US media outlets pointed out his submitted federal transportation budget actually proposed cuts to funding to national rail systems."

This disgusts me. That slimy bastard had the nerve to use this tragedy to try to score political points, which is bad enough. But to add insult to injury, he lied, as usual. He just can't' tell the truth about anything, and doesn't seem to care how much of a sleazy asshole he makes of himself.

Can anyone trust this guy to tell us any truth at all? If so, where does your trust come from?

Trump doesn't lie, just ask his supporters, when he is called out ..... its fake news.

 

[Throttlehead]

Perhaps you should get the full details of his plan before frothing at the mouth about it?

Do you have the full details?

 

[InternetHero]

I am more alarmed that President Trump thought his rash, angry "I told you so!" answer would be wise after a disaster.

Can Congress pass a law that President Trump has to wait at least 24 hours to Tweet about national tragedies?




As for the truth, yeah you are right, but I think the more objective and blatant lies about crowd sizes and such are a bigger problem, and that American's followed a very slippery moral slope through Clinton, W. 2, and Obama to whatever low point this is.

 

[InternetHero]

Trump doesn't lie, just ask his supporters, when he is called out ..... its fake news.

The "problem" is that his lies also have no tact and no plausible deniability.

When say President Obama would bend, flex, or obliterate the truth he would construct a monumental strawman, binary choice, or through legalese parse the words so carefully and cleverly that a partisan had at least a faux intellectual argument on Obama's behalf, and a rube could easily be duped.

Trump in my opinion is simply the rube, and an ugly minded rube at that. When he tosses a whopper, all there is is the whopper. His loyal hack-frauds are always left looking the fools, which destroys their credibility as well, and even the thoughts and theories of what intellectuals he has suffer from Trump pushing the nuclear Twitter button every two or three days.

I read recently (and will try to source it) that Trump became "upset" when he was not in the news, news which he watches many, many hours of the day. That is not Presidential, or even Senatorial, that is repentantly narcissistic and possibly insane if true, and there is a lot of reason to believe that it might be true.

 

[Trotsky]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42408624

"President Donald Trump's first reaction to the derailment was to tweet that it showed the need for his forthcoming infrastructure plan.

However US media outlets pointed out his submitted federal transportation budget actually proposed cuts to funding to national rail systems."

This disgusts me. That slimy bastard had the nerve to use this tragedy to try to score political points, which is bad enough. But to add insult to injury, he lied, as usual. He just can't' tell the truth about anything, and doesn't seem to care how much of a sleazy asshole he makes of himself.

Can anyone trust this guy to tell us any truth at all? If so, where does your trust come from?

This all could have been avoided if we just public funding to, and oversight of, important infrastructure and contract it out to huge private developers who will cut corners to increase profit: corner-cutting and profit-maximizing that will, again, be absent previous public oversights.

Derp.

 

[TheComebackKid]

I am more alarmed that President Trump thought his rash, angry "I told you so!" answer would be wise after a disaster.

Can Congress pass a law that President Trump has to wait at least 24 hours to Tweet about national tragedies?

Perhaps he wasn't looking to score political points but rather reinforce the urgency of fixing our infrastructure. You guys really have got to chill out. You're not going to make it to 2025.

As for the truth, yeah you are right, but I think the more objective and blatant lies about crowd sizes and such are a bigger problem, and that American's followed a very slippery moral slope through Clinton, W. 2, and Obama to whatever low point this is.

Does it matter to you that Trump(spicer) claimed it was the biggest inauguration audience ever and not crowd? Given TV and internet wouldn't that more than likely be a true statement?

You guys are unhinged these days. Stop. Breathe. And think some shit through before getting emotional about it.

 

[Fanu]

for additional shits and giggles

 

[Scrody]

It wasn't even a matter of infrastructure. Apparently the train was going way too fast.

 

[computer fogie]

Perhaps you should get the full details of his plan before frothing at the mouth about it?

Please share these details, won't you?

 

[computer fogie]

...Does it matter to you that Trump(spicer) claimed it was the biggest inauguration audience ever and not crowd?...

No, he said it was the biggest crowd. Can you post a link that proves your assertion?

 

[InternetHero]

Perhaps he wasn't looking to score political points but rather reinforce the urgency of fixing our infrastructure. You guys really have got to chill out. You're not going to make it to 2025. (1)



Does it matter to you that Trump(spicer) claimed it was the biggest inauguration audience ever and not crowd? Given TV and internet wouldn't that more than likely be a true statement?

You guys are unhinged these days. Stop. Breathe. And think some shit through before getting emotional about it. (2)

1. Let us not parse words.

Was it a good idea and Presidential to politicize the event almost immediately?

2. Let us again presume Trump was right, let us say 100% right.

Was his reaction and the reaction of his followers dignified or did he waste days of his Presidency tossing out loud and often grossly inaccurate responses, multiple stories, ECT. about what happened?

At best he was completely trolled.

This might play well to the 30% who are "Deplorables" and rightly resent some things about modern America, but, losing that other 60% is going to be very, very bad for the GOP if things keep going this way.

Please, trust me, I do not want to see the Trump Titanic slam bow first into an endless electoral iceberg that completely sinks the American Conservative movement.

 

[computer fogie]

It wasn't even a matter of infrastructure. Apparently the train was going way too fast.

It was going 80 mph in a 30 zone, you're correct. This only adds to the mendacity of Trumps lie.

 

[InternetHero]

This all could have been avoided if we just public funding to, and oversight of, important infrastructure and contract it out to huge private developers who will cut corners to increase profit: corner-cutting and profit-maximizing that will, again, be absent previous public oversights.

Derp.

To be fair American bureaucracy is not German bureaucracy.

Private enterprise tends to be much, much more efficient at getting things done. That is the system and culture.

The business might try to cheat on efficiency or cut corners outside of the law, but the bureaucracy will squander the money, swell in size/manpower, and then cheat to cut corners on budgets or protect their face outside of the law.

There are some institutions we should not privatize, rail may well be one of them, certainly not prisons, but corporate competitiveness is -usually- a good force in America I would claim.

(Note not the best, or most moral, or anything like that, that is another debate, but for the American system, specifically, privatization is usually a good option.)

 

[TheComebackKid]

Please share these details, won't you?

I don't have the details hence why I'm not sharing an opinion about it. Seems like the prudent thing to do.

 

[TheComebackKid]

No, he said it was the biggest crowd. Can you post a link that proves your assertion?

"That was the largest audience to witness an inauguration, period."
— Sean Spicer on Saturday, January 21st, 2017 in a press conference

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...had-biggest-inaugural-crowd-ever-metrics-don/

Notice they quote him saying audience but still but "crowd" in the headline. You got to watch out for that fake news.

 

[computer fogie]

I don't have the details hence why I'm not sharing an opinion about it. Seems like the prudent thing to do.

Oh ok, so you really have no reason to doubt that "US media outlets pointed out his submitted federal transportation budget actually proposed cuts to funding to national rail systems."

You're just guessing and hoping, but you'e sure enough to lambaste anyone who believes the people who have actually read it.

 

[computer fogie]

"That was the largest audience to witness an inauguration, period."
— Sean Spicer on Saturday, January 21st, 2017 in a press conference

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...had-biggest-inaugural-crowd-ever-metrics-don/

Notice they quote him saying audience but still but "crowd" in the headline. You got to watch out for that fake news.

You're grasping at straws here.

 

[TheComebackKid]

1. Let us not parse words.

Was it a good idea and Presidential to politicize the event almost immediately?

I don't think he politicized it. I think he just reinforced an idea he's been pushing since before he ran for office...that we need to fix our infrastructure.

2. Let us again presume Trump was right, let us say 100% right.

Was his reaction and the reaction of his followers dignified or did he waste days of his Presidency tossing out loud and often grossly inaccurate responses, multiple stories, ECT. about what happened?

I don't think it was either dignified or undignified. I think the media and leftists who lost their minds over the claim and passed fake pictures around twitter are the ones who turned this into a spectacle. Trump(spicer) just made a claim.

This might play well to the 30% who are "Deplorables" and rightly resent some things about modern America, but, losing that other 60% is going to be very, very bad for the GOP if things keep going this way.

You shouldn't call people deplorable IH. We could say some things about you that wouldn't be so nice.

Please, trust me, I do not want to see the Trump Titanic slam bow first into an endless electoral iceberg that completely sinks the American Conservative movement.

Well it depends on which American Conservative movement you're talking about. If you mean your traditional Bush/McCain republicanism...well you can sink all that shit.