Opinion Trump's stance on remote work - do Republicans really support this?

[Oblivian]

I see this being another one of those things that started off apolitical, which makes sense but now because Trump and Elon said it, it'll probably become a political thing because people are sheep

That's part of my point though. How in the world can this be a positive for them? The only way is if people that don't have remote work access have that much resentment, but I haven't seen that. It just seems like it will piss off a lot of people that this actually affects and then alienate others that think it's a ridiculous stance.

 

[PEB]

Marc Benioff and sorta left of center CEO admitted they spent like billions on making workplace a fancy as can be deluxe working environment only to have employees want to work from home. What is a supersized billionaire to do.

 

[Oblivian]

Marc Benioff and sorta left of center CEO admitted they spent like billions on making workplace a fancy as can be deluxe working environment only to have employees want to work from home. What is a supersized billionaire to do.

On a much smaller scale, this is my wife's company. They bought a 7 story building downtown. The higher ups (not mid-level managers) are scapegoating this decision to "Trump is doing it", but I think it's really to save face about the building in addition to these fossils not understanding work from home. The mid-level manager are really the ones who should be selling it to them and explaining it, but they're failing. It's going to bite the company in the ass though. Most competition is still offering work from home. They did give a 7% raise, but that's not going to help the inconvenience of it.

Honestly, I don't know how people work for companies with strict standards anymore. My kids are in sports that start as early as 4:15. They are in school sports where you'd miss games. All of my employees pretty much make their own schedule around their life. If you hire good employees, this is not a difficult concept.

 

[GolovKing]

That's part of my point though. How in the world can this be a positive for them? The only way is if people that don't have remote work access have that much resentment, but I haven't seen that. It just seems like it will piss off a lot of people that this actually affects and then alienate others that think it's a ridiculous stance.

I can't imagine it will be either. I also know a lot of federal employees who are pissed about Trump and Elon cutting peoples jobs and the new email requirements for federal employees. This includes a lot of people who originally supported him and voted for him, like federal law enforcement and stuff. I guess Trump is banking on the economy getting a lot better and that it will turn out to be a net positive for him

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Some days go by and I don't do damn thing.

Yeah but I'm in an office and spend 80% of my time on here, tapology and twitter so there's no difference really. So long as you get through the tasks you're paid to do and you're more efficient than most people so they don't take you as long that's all good as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Rob Battisti]

Some jobs should be WFH. Some shouldn’t.

Most should be though.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

On a much smaller scale, this is my wife's company. They bought a 7 story building downtown. The higher ups (not mid-level managers) are scapegoating this decision to "Trump is doing it", but I think it's really to save face about the building in addition to these fossils not understanding work from home. The mid-level manager are really the ones who should be selling it to them and explaining it, but they're failing. It's going to bite the company in the ass though. Most competition is still offering work from home. They did give a 7% raise, but that's not going to help the inconvenience of it.

Honestly, I don't know how people work for companies with strict standards anymore. My kids are in sports that start as early as 4:15. They are in school sports where you'd miss games. All of my employees pretty much make their own schedule around their life. If you hire good employees, this is not a difficult concept.

"We're going to make work comfortable and somewhere you can feel relaxed while getting your work done"

"You mean like my house?"

 

[Slapjit]

Damn prolly cuz dem employee slackin’ off smdh if only dem wulda just work wi cudda WFH have less car payments cheaper housin’ cheaper car insurance less commute fatigue more time wid di family less anxiety from hoverin' managers weh nuh have a purpose otherwise more mental space fi tink since mandem nuh interrupt fi chat less PTSD from di phone ringin’ less office drama smdh lazy ppl killin’ di ting haffi do it tho Trump mi overstand di long game

 

[AWilder]

We spend like $20B on leases, maintenance and hvac for federal office space not even getting into things like federal employee gas stipends.

My FIL, who has somehow scammed and defrauded the VA to 100% disability, still takes time out of his day to make sure he gets his $0.47 a mile to drive to the VA.

 

[essie]

That's part of my point though. How in the world can this be a positive for them? The only way is if people that don't have remote work access have that much resentment, but I haven't seen that. It just seems like it will piss off a lot of people that this actually affects and then alienate others that think it's a ridiculous stance.

I would generally think people in charge would prefer to have their employees in office.

 

[Son of Jamin]

During the pandemic, I worked from home for more than 2 years.

Since then, I work 2-3 days from home per week.

It saves time, it makes days more efficient instead of some colleague coming into my office to ask about something that is neither urgent or important. That happens all the time at the office.

If you are an ambitious and hard working individual, that will not change if you work from home, but if you are lazy, then you will be lazy both at the office and at home.

 

[Last Falconry]

did an obese, poorly educated moron say it? but, like, say it loudly, like it was really important? then yes, they support that. doesn't even matter what it is. the answer is yes

 

[Satsui Ryu]

Following covid I was WFH full-time up until only a few months ago.. now I am in the office 2 days a week. My company sold multiple floors in its building, and condensed. It is kind of hybrid now with no designated seats.

It's not that bad for me since I already lived close enough to the office and my commute is easy.. but going full-time remote to full-time in the office is a rather stark difference for a lot of people, especially if they have families they are looking out for that adjust to their schedules.

I think most of the big wigs at the top enjoy being in person more because they have type A personalities. They don't get to where they are by enjoying peace lol - they love being in front of people and seeing people working. Not everyone is like that though of course.

I got no dog in the fight on Trump's opinion on this, but I prefer hybrid. I go into the office 2 days a week and that is ideal. As good as WFH is there are actual drawbacks at some point. I prefer to have at least some face time with my colleagues and a change of scenery is nice every so often. 5 days a week in office can be a slog, but doing it every so often is actually a pick me up for me.

 

[Oblivian]

I would generally think people in charge would prefer to have their employees in office.

In my experience, people 60+ in age have that mindset. These are the people that can barely type an email or navigate through an e-sign document. The younger business owners or managers are not this way. Almost all of my communication is going to be through email and documented anyways. I actually prefer when my employees work from home part of the time.

 

[D3thr0n3d K1ng]

We spend like $20B on leases, maintenance and hvac for federal office space not even getting into things like federal employee gas stipends.

This.

Spending taxpayer dollars on buying and leasing office space just to satisfy their authoritarian cravings.

 

[Sage NorthGOAT]

delete

 

[Mr Holmes]

Yeah but I'm in an office and spend 80% of my time on here, tapology and twitter so there's no difference really. So long as you get through the tasks you're paid to do and you're more efficient than most people so they don't take you as long that's all good as far as I'm concerned.

I know I'm personally more productive in the office. I at least try to look like I'm busy coding. At home I'm doing house work, playing vids, reading, going for long walks, etc.

 

[WklySportsMemes]

I know I'm personally more productive in the office. I at least try to look like I'm busy coding. At home I'm doing house work, playing vids, reading, going for long walks, etc.

I'm the opposite. Way more productive at home. No distractions. I can somewhat cook, clean do laundry or other stuff if I'm waiting on macros to run or have a dependency on a reply or need an answer.
In the office I have everyone wanting to talk to me about cars, sports, drama, whos sleeping with who, which boss was mean to them or partying. Even some of the big bosses. Or pointless meetings to where I get asked to lead impromptu because the other bosses have nothing and just needed to meet to justify them being bosses.

However, if a team or employee has goals, deliverables,and deadlines i don't see how people can get away with stealing time to that point. It shows pretty poor management & oversight. Or organization maps things out and we work towards goals with realistic deadlines. Then your pay & performance is based on meetings or exceeding that workload.

I also don't understand how mature adults get distracted with playing when given autonomy & privilege.

Thats why I'm a fan of realistic deadlines and or obtainable flexible quotas. Those who cant meet them....take their ass to the office. Those who can deliver, keep doing you....

 

[Possum Jenkins]

Seems stupid to me. Easy way of cutting out a decent amount of pollution, lowers overheads for companies, gives people more time with their family.

Can't see a downside to it.

If I put my Marxist hat on, I'd say it's to exert power over the worker.

Because I also don't see a downside to it from either the profit, management, productivity, and even environmental points of view. Worker satisfaction is also improved.

But from the power point of view, there is a negative. Just coming into the office means you're getting surveilled to a certain degree, and there is definitely a power dynamic at play there. You can get surveilled electronically/virtually as well, but obviously it's far less effective.

 

[Cartiac]

One of the more baffling political stances or at least interpretation of political stances is Trump seeming to be against remote work. This has been a talking point at my wife's company where the big wigs are justifying it by saying "Trump is having remote workers return to work". I noticed a bunch of cheers and claps when he was bragging about workers getting back to in person work. Are most Trump supporters really backing this? It's pretty archaic to think that working from home isn't a viable option for most. The technology is there, software tracks productivity, etc. I just find it odd that this is something people are cheering for, but I realize some people will back anything Trump says.

First Trump is not "having remote workers return to work". He is telling office based workers that were temporary shifted to remote due to COVID that is long over and they need to return to the office.

It also doesn't sound like you have ever done much meaningful work. Yes things can be done remotely particularly low level grunt tasks, but there is huge value and productivity lost due to working from home.

Interpersonal relationships, collaboration, communication, proximity, etc are extremely important to successfully building complex, broad scope solutions.

Teams meetings don't come anywhere close to replicating hours/days spent in a conference room hashing out designs across every white boarded wall, the hallway chats, the coffee breaks, happy hours, etc. I can understand this may not make sense if all you know is the interwebs, but in real life this stuff matters.