Trump's Mar-A-Lago aks Dept. Of Labor for 61 (or 40) foreign worker visas

[MicroBrew]

Per CNN and some mainstream news sites:
Mar-A-Lago wants the Dept of Labor to approve 61 foreign worker visa applications (H2-B) to fullfill these positions:
Cooks (21 visas for cooks)
Servers (40 for servers)

Can we say hypocrite?
A dubious argument can be made for cooks, by claiming the resort needs foreign cusine experts, but 21 cooks? And considering that we have lots of people in America from all corners of the world, the local pool of cooks competent in foreign dishes should satisfy the resort's needs.

Trump has previously claimed it is hard to find workers. Listen, if you pay a good wage, Americans will do the job. Trump is a billionaire so why is it hard for him to pay a nice enough wage that attracts American workers. The wages listed for these foreign workers isn't low, but isn't great either. Small restaurants here (sub-urban MidWest town) have the same or higher wage. A fancy place like Mar-A-Lago can afford to pay more. There must be a lot of Trump supporters and non-supporters eager to work there, cause the place is perceived as glamorous and they get to see powerful and famous people.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/06/politics/mar-a-lago-foreign-workers-request/index.html


Last year Mar-A-Lago was given 70 foreign worker visas. For maids, cooks and servers.
http://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...ting-to-hire-40-foreign-workers-at-mar-a-lago

Some news sites say 61 visas and some say 40 visas.
https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/trump-wants-40-foreign-mar-a-lago-workers-10500743

 

[Pessimystic]

Visa's are legal, right? Is he violating any laws?
What exactly is the problem here?

 

[nostradumbass]

You know employees aren't paid from the owner's personal checking account, right?

Oh yeah, I'm sure non-Trump supporters would just be lining up to work there. They'd be there throwing eggs, hitting people with bike locks and shouting "nooooo" into the heavens if they could get anywhere near the place.

Wake me up when he hires illegals.

 

[woodguyatl]

Visa's are legal, right? Is he violating any laws?
What exactly is the problem here?

If he would pay a good wage he could hire Americans to do the work. Instead they are bringing in foreigners at below market wages.

 

[Pessimystic]

If he would pay a good wage he could hire Americans to do the work. Instead they are bringing in foreigners at below market wages.

You have any evidence of that?
What is the hotel paying these guys? Why should any business pay more than the going rate for said labor?

 

[MicroBrew]

Visa's are legal, right? Is he violating any laws?
What exactly is the problem here?

His whole schtick of "America First" , helping American industry, cracking down on Silicon Valley's abuse of the H1-B visas, criticizing Harley Davidson for building bikes overseas.

 

[MicroBrew]

You have any evidence of that?
What is the hotel paying these guys? Why should any business pay more than the going rate for said labor?

The going rate for labor is upended when you have an endless supply of cheap foreign labor.

 

[Witchhunt]

Legal Immigration with a sponsor. Trump should be a hero for helping these people get Visa's..

 

[woodguyatl]

You have any evidence of that?
What is the hotel paying these guys? Why should any business pay more than the going rate for said labor?

Bringing in folks on visas is hurting American cooks by artificially keeping the wages for cooks below what the market would otherwise demand. Imagine if the auto manufacturers brought foreign workers in on visas to work assembly lines in order to avoid raising wages enough to attract American workers. The definition of market rate for any job is the rate at which someone will do the job. The very fact that they are unable to fill 40 positions means that by definition they are paying below the market rate for that job. I assure you that if they raised the wages they would get people to do the work.

 

[MicroBrew]

You know employees aren't paid from the owner's personal checking account, right?

Oh yeah, I'm sure non-Trump supporters would just be lining up to work there. They'd be there throwing eggs, hitting people with bike locks and shouting "nooooo" into the heavens if they could get anywhere near the place.

Wake me up when he hires illegals.

He owns the place, he has the financial means to pay them a good wage. You are assuming all non Trump supporters are proactively engaged in opposing Trump.There are a lot of people who would love to work there for the perceived benefits.

 

[MayhemMonkey]

what happened to America first?

 

[MicroBrew]

Legal Immigration with a sponsor. Trump should be a hero for helping these people get Visa's..

Hurting American workers, by not hiring them and lowering wages. I thought Trump was all about "America First" and MAGA.

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

Didn't this happen a long time ago, like early in his first year??

 

[MicroBrew]

what happened to America first?

Watch the Trumpers make excuses in this thread.

This is why I respect people like Ann Coulter, cause she calls him out on shit when he strays far from his campaign sentiments.

 

[MicroBrew]

Didn't this happen a long time ago, like early in his first year??

No this is new / breaking news. Last year Mar A Lago got 70 foreign worker visas. This year they want 40 visas.

This news is sourced from the 2018 July 3rd Federal Job order filed by Mar A Lago with the Dept of Labor.
https://lcr-pjr.doleta.gov/index.cf...k=view_job_order&view=external&lcjr_id=136842

 

[Pessimystic]

The going rate for labor is upended when you have an endless supply of cheap foreign labor.

Sounds like a good argument against illegal immigration, to me.
Is he paying less than the going rate?

 

[MayhemMonkey]

Watch the Trumpers make excuses in this thread

and if Americans apply.... they get this screen. I wonder how they can twist this?

This is why I respect people like Ann Coulter.

 

[Madmick]

You know employees aren't paid from the owner's personal checking account, right?

Oh yeah, I'm sure non-Trump supporters would just be lining up to work there. They'd be there throwing eggs, hitting people with bike locks and shouting "nooooo" into the heavens if they could get anywhere near the place.

Wake me up when he hires illegals.

He's making you his bitch right in front of your eyes, going full swamp monster, and you're defending him.

Why does he live by a different set of rules than the ones he makes? This is the definition of hypocrisy.

 

[Shoemaker]

All bullshit aside: assuming they’re approved, does that mean farmers nationwide could apply for and also be approved for the same? And if not, how does a hotel justify visas that a farmer cannot replicate? If you’re getting visas for maids without any further consideration, an unskilled position, I’m not sure why agriculture workers aren’t granted the same. Do farmers not try for fear of their workforce being deported? Is agriculture considered a special industry as far as visas are concerned?

I have no angle here, I’m woefully ignorant of the visa process.

 

[Pessimystic]

His whole schtick of "America First" , helping American industry, cracking down on Silicon Valley's abuse of the H1-B visas, criticizing Harley Davidson for building bikes overseas.

H1-B visas and H2-B visa's are not the same.
Note the word "abuses". Is Trump abusing the visa system here? Isn't this exactly what H2-B visas are for?
Or are you suggesting that we close the border?