International Trumps gaza solution is to ask Hamas and Palestine to collectively surrender and leave Gaza

[The XL]

Someone tell Trump that he won re-election and doesn't have to suck Israeli cock anymore.

 

[filthybliss]

If you want peace, it is the only solution. The terrorist losers who keep provoking war with the Jews and losing, are all out of mulligans. Too bad, so sad. FAFO. Land ownership is not a right. If it was, you'd give your spot up to the first Native American you came across. You wouldn't though, because that purge you benefitted from happened a long time ago, and you don't care enough to even consider their gripes in any meaningful way. And they just merely existed on land another powerful foe wanted. That poor terrorist nation who keeps attacking their far superior neighbors, though? Oh', they get to be antagonistic assholes until the end of time with no consequence, apparently. Just let them rebuild so they can do this all over again in ten years.

Oh god, you are such a greasy pig….

There are still families living there that just want to live their lives. Not everyone living there is a terrorist….You’d probably be the biggest Jihadist Dick Sucker if you were living there.

Anyways, you are the first to cry about getting cucked by immigrants. It makes no sense for you to be cheerleading for a future refugee crisis.

 

[Gutter Chris]

There's no cockamamie scheme this goober in chief can come up with that his lemmings won't sign onto, just unreal.

I'd be surprised if you could point Palestine out on a map and yet here you are arguing that the only solution is to ethnically cleanse one side.

Not really a Trump guy , and I can totally point to the west bank Israel and gaza on a map.

And we've had this argument before, and if you recall I would like to turn the west bank into the actual country of palistine...and that there is no way for the Muslims in gaza to live any kind of sovereign and unoccupied life which is why I think it's time for them to live elsewhere where they are not dependent on Israel for everything and are not a constant security threat. ...and don't get annoyed at me about that either I'm not the one who keeps picking fights with Israel and losing nor am I the one egging them on to behave this way.

Lotta people would rather that fight go on for eternity than admit Israel won the war. I'm not one of them.

 

[Islam Imamate]

Not really a Trump guy , and I can totally point to the west bank Israel and gaza on a map.

And we've had this argument before, and if you recall I would like to turn the west bank into the actual country of palistine...and that there is no way for the Muslims in gaza to live any kind of sovereign and unoccupied life which is why I think it's time for them to live elsewhere where they are not dependent on Israel for everything and are not a constant security threat. ...and don't get annoyed at me about that either I'm not the one who keeps picking fights with Israel and losing nor am I the one egging them on to behave this way.

Lotta people would rather that fight go on for eternity than admit Israel won the war. I'm not one of them.

What if they don't want to leave? What then?

 

[ShadowRun]

you mean the surrounding Arab countries won't take in the people who's side their on and root for the down fall of Israel

" From the river to the sea"

 

[Seano]

I mean, they either stay where they are or go somewhere else, right? There's no other solution. They can't assimilate into Israel.

 

[Gutter Chris]

What if they don't want to leave? What then?

More death suffering and terrorism probably. The cycle continues. Nothing good.

What if it isn't presented as a choice? What then ?

 

[jk7707]

The amount of people here advocating for a complete ethnic cleansing is disturbing.

 

[Islam Imamate]

More death suffering and terrorism probably. The cycle continues. Nothing good.

What if it isn't presented as a choice? What then ?

Then it's an ethnic cleansing campaign which tends to lead to death and suffering in case you aren't aware.

 

[sickc0d3r]

Then it's an ethnic cleansing campaign which tends to lead to death and suffering in case you aren't aware.

These kids can’t stop fighting, they need to be separated. Someone has to be the “loser” and go somewhere else. Serious question, what’s your solution?

 

[Islam Imamate]

These kids can’t stop fighting, they need to be separated. Someone has to be the “loser” and go somewhere else. Serious question, what’s your solution?

I don't have a simple solution, that doesn't mean I can't criticize your Patrick Starr level thinking

 

[Morning Star]

I mean, they either stay where they are or go somewhere else, right? There's no other solution. They can't assimilate into Israel.

They can't assimilate anywhere which is why no other surrounding country wants to take them in.

 

[ryun253]

nuke them both

 

[Bob Gray]

Theres no real solution here. Just loads of bad options.

Logistically I have no idea the entire population leaving Gaza would work. At the same time, its really just as implausible to expect Palestine in it's current form to abide by any sort of two state or peaceable solution for an extended length of time. The current trajectory has nothing more than bloodshed on both sides, and with casualties overwhelmingly on the Palestinian side, regardless of arguments as to whether thats justified or not.

Practically speaking, this might be the option that has the least amount of deaths. This is not the same thing as arguing that its a good solution. Just the one that has the least bloodshed out of all things that are actual possibilities.

 

[Islam Imamate]

Theres no real solution here. Just loads of bad options.

Logistically I have no idea the entire population leaving Gaza would work. At the same time, its really just as implausible to expect Palestine in it's current form to abide by any sort of two state or peaceable solution for an extended length of time. The current trajectory has nothing more than bloodshed on both sides, and with casualties overwhelmingly on the Palestinian side, regardless of arguments as to whether thats justified or not.

Practically speaking, this might be the option that has the least amount of deaths. This is not the same thing as arguing that its a good solution. Just the one that has the least bloodshed out of all things that are actual possibilities.

You think expelling millions of people will result in less bloodshed?

 

[Fox by the Sea]

They can't assimilate anywhere which is why no other surrounding country wants to take them in.

No, no country wants them because we're talking about a population of millions that's been in school for subterfuge and fighting the government for many decades.
Most of the arab states around are authoritarian shitholes whose limp leadership relies either on gibs from america, or the brutal rule of the military and the mukhabarat, which is a very shaky arrangement. bringing in millions of people like that, that have been forced to get smarter by being constantly under threat, is a nightmare for the fat monarchies of the gulf, the gay regime of Jordan, or the shaky military dictatorships of northern africa.

 

[Bob Gray]

You think expelling millions of people will result in less bloodshed?

Than the current trajectory, which is literally unending bloodshed? Yes. Obviously it depends on a few things like where and how. But there is no end to ongoing war between Israel and Palestine. At best you'd have intermittent time between hostile attacks. Even eventually Hamas acquiring and using something far more deadly than their current military arsenal. If somehow Hamas could acquire something like a WMD, theyd absolutely use it without hesitation.

Currently, without some sort of massive societal change, there will be no end to violence. Ever. You cannot legislate the kind of change necessary to end these hostilities. Even if someone wants to argue that Israel is 100% the bad guys. Fine. Theyre the bad guys, and they won. The only question is what can we do that will limit future deaths.

 

[avenue94]

You think expelling millions of people will result in less bloodshed?

The partition of India just entered the chat

 

[Croo67]

Sorting America should be Trump’s priority.

The whole world doesn’t, and shouldn’t, revolve around Palestine.

 

[HockeyBjj]

I hope the far lefties who protested against Biden for not being pro-palestine enough see what happened when an actual pro-israel president got back in charge