Trump's Free Speech Echo Chamber

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Confucamus said:
But that's not it's [sic] name anymore.
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It's an international body of water. Trump and his cultists can call it (or anything else) whatever they want. Trump can even make the federal government refer to it as such. But I'm afraid it doesn't mean much beyond that.

So while it is adorable that you're naive enough to actually think that's the issue, the real issue here is that the White House is banning the second largest news organization in the world, while simultaneously acting like Trump actually cares about freedom of speech / freedom of the press.

I'd ask you why he's doing it, but I'm pretty sure the only response you'd be able to muster is a glazed-over expression and a bit of drool running down your chin. So I'll just tell you. He's doing it because he's an insecure bitch who badly wants to be a dictator. And like every dictator, he only wants people around him who will kowtow to him on command. The whole "Gulf of America" shtick is simply a "kiss my boots" analog. If you'll kiss his boots, he'll let you stay. If you don't, he'll ban you.

Now, if you, too, are an insecure little bitch, you will naturally view this as a show of strength. If you aren't, you will view this as what it really is, which is a sign of absurd weakness of character. Something you would expect to see from someone like Kim-Jong Un; never a US President or other (respectable) world leader.

So I know it's beating a dead horse, but needless to say, if Joe Biden had "renamed" an international body of water, and then banned press organizations from the White House unless they capitulated, you would be on here calling him a senile Hitler hell bent on demolishing the first amendment.

So in case you're still confused—your lack of principles is the point, here.

This is a blatant attack on the freedom of the press. The press is there to hold the government accountable. This is, and always has been, a basic tenet of our democracy. The press is not there to be Trump's mouthpiece. Nobody outside of official federal government communication is obligated to call the Gulf of Mexico anything.
 
heloder said:
It's an international body of water. Trump and his cultists can call it (or anything else) whatever they want. Trump can even make the federal government refer to it as such. But I'm afraid it doesn't mean much beyond that.

So while it is adorable that you're naive enough to actually think that's the issue, the real issue here is that the White House is banning the second largest news organization in the world, while simultaneously acting like Trump actually cares about freedom of speech / freedom of the press.

I'd ask you why he's doing it, but I'm pretty sure the only response you'd be able to muster is a glazed-over expression and a bit of drool running down your chin. So I'll just tell you. He's doing it because he's an insecure bitch who badly wants to be a dictator. And like every dictator, he only wants people around him who will kowtow to him on command. The whole "Gulf of America" shtick is simply a "kiss my boots" analog. If you'll kiss his boots, he'll let you stay. If you don't, he'll ban you.

Now, if you, too, are an insecure little bitch, you will naturally view this as a show of strength. If you aren't, you will view this as what it really is, which is a sign of absurd weakness of character. Something you would expect to see from someone like Kim-Jong Un; never a US President or other (respectable) world leader.

So I know it's beating a dead horse, but needless to say, if Joe Biden had "renamed" an international body of water, and then banned press organizations from the White House unless they capitulated, you would be on here calling him a senile Hitler hell bent on demolishing the first amendment.

So in case you're still confused—your lack of principles is the point, here.

This is a blatant attack on the freedom of the press. The press is there to hold the government accountable. This is, and always has been, a basic tenet of our democracy. The press is not there to be Trump's mouthpiece. Nobody outside of official federal government communication is obligated to call the Gulf of Mexico anything.
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Well said, even if you are wasting your breath.
 
heloder said:
It's an international body of water. Trump and his cultists can call it (or anything else) whatever they want. Trump can even make the federal government refer to it as such. But I'm afraid it doesn't mean much beyond that.
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Well, I'm an American so I'll call it what Trump names it. Nobody is stopping you from your heroic Gulf of America boycott. Do your thing, I'm sure it will catch on.

heloder said:
So while it is adorable that you're naive enough to actually think that's the issue, the real issue here is that the White House is banning the second largest news organization in the world, while simultaneously acting like Trump actually cares about freedom of speech / freedom of the press.

I'd ask you why he's doing it, but I'm pretty sure the only response you'd be able to muster is a glazed-over expression and a bit of drool running down your chin. So I'll just tell you. He's doing it because he's an insecure bitch who badly wants to be a dictator. And like every dictator, he only wants people around him who will kowtow to him on command. The whole "Gulf of America" shtick is simply a "kiss my boots" analog. If you'll kiss his boots, he'll let you stay. If you don't, he'll ban you.

Now, if you, too, are an insecure little bitch, you will naturally view this as a show of strength. If you aren't, you will view this as what it really is, which is a sign of absurd weakness of character. Something you would expect to see from someone like Kim-Jong Un; never a US President or other (respectable) world leader.

So I know it's beating a dead horse, but needless to say, if Joe Biden had "renamed" an international body of water, and then banned press organizations from the White House unless they capitulated, you would be on here calling him a senile Hitler hell bent on demolishing the first amendment.

So in case you're still confused—your lack of principles is the point, here.

This is a blatant attack on the freedom of the press. The press is there to hold the government accountable. This is, and always has been, a basic tenet of our democracy. The press is not there to be Trump's mouthpiece. Nobody outside of official federal government communication is obligated to call the Gulf of Mexico anything.
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Well, first of all, you don't actually care about any "attack" on the press. Not at all. Not even a little bit. The AP is free to write whatever they want about whoever they want. The media has been an enemy to Trump's entire Presidential run so he has no obligation to tolerate them. Plus, this is only one media outlet your crocodile tears are being spilled for. Plenty of others. But I understand that you're doing what you're told to do like a good little weasel. You keep up that good fight, bud.
 
James Bomb said:
Not very effectively. Literally everything you posted in this thread is low quality junk.

The SPLC had some problems with their past leadership, but Morris Dees is no longer involved in the organization. Given the sources that you've posted in this thread and your advocacy for Stefan Molyneux and Richard Spencer, you're in no position to judge the SPLC's credibility.



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Here's the Youtube policy revision that you claim doesn't exist, including a nice history about how they tightened their policies on hate speech and harassment in 2017. Oof. Go ahead and dodge that uncomfortable reality.

Why did Youtube revise the policy? Because advertisers didn't like having their ads running in front of awful content. I think Youtube also had a bit of an internal reckoning over what their algorithm was doing to vulnerable young people.


LOL, you think the guy who says that "mental illness is not real" and "you can't get an organ transplant from a different race" is credible when he says he was in good standing with Youtube? LOL. And what a surprise, he was already demonetized by Youtube last year. Ouch.

Black Pigeon Speaks is another literal neo-nazi. Dude, come on..,


Again, not a reliable source.


So wait, you have an issue with Youtube removing blatant misinformation about coronavirus? And you have "links somewhere?" Holy crap.

This is downright hilarious. You're claiming that the SPLC is a scam org while simultaneously defending scammy hate organizations.


Again, you provide literally no proof for your claims. Every single source you've provided is a total whiff in terms of credibility AND objectivity.


Illegal was a mis-statement, but "against policy" would be more correct. So you think that Richard Spencer or Stefan Molyneux wouldn't get banned if they posted the same sort of content here? Why aren't you upset about content moderation that happens on this forum? Lots of conservatives are regularly banned here as well. It's not "horseshit mental gymnastics" to point out the hypocrisy.


You keep saying "there's lots of evidence" but you only quote extremist websites and the people who were banned from these platforms for bad behavior when asked for that evidence.


LOL, I'm not going to waste my time debunking every grievance that conservatives have with tech company policies that you can find on the Internet. Do companies make mistakes? Sure they do, but they most often correct those mistakes. Is removing Alex Jones, Stefan Molyneux, Felix Lace, and other white supremacists a mistake? Nope, tech companies have their own First Amendment rights to moderate the content on their platforms. You seem to take the clumsy arguments of white supremacists and partisan hacks at face value, even though they have significantly less credibility than the tech companies do.

I'm sure you're going to just go out and Google some more questionable material to respond with, but I'll leave you with a section from one of the articles about the topic that you completely dodged before:

“It’s about using nominal conservatism as a cloak to promote toxic masculinity and white supremacy. It’s about extremists using conservatives,” she said. “Fundamentally, it’s a technique to grab power by gaslighting the public and making reality seem fuzzy.”​
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The same tactic has been used by other far-right trolls including Mike Cernovich, Milo Yiannopoulos, and Laura Loomer (who also interrupted proceedings by beseeching Donald Trump to “save” conservatives from social media censorship).​
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The strategy appears to be working. Social media companies have become more hesitant to ban users even if they flagrantly violate their terms of service out of fear of being painted as censors.​

Well, it worked until it didn't work anymore.
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Blithering
 
Overtures said:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/abramb...s-new-favorite-social-media-app/#36240685016f

It's an app called Parlor whose user base is almost entirely conservatives who felt persecuted for their thoughts and stripped of their rights of free speech. "Bad ideas should be confronted in regular discourse. That's the beauty of free speech" is a paraphrasing of the CEO's vision for Parlor. The obvious irony is that he created an air tight echo chamber where conservatives can go and cathartically masturbate their brains.

Another observation is that free speech isn't the goal if you move to an app like Parlor to communicate with people -- it's freedom from opposing views.


#uncleJoe
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Who is going to jail for the Twitter files? No one of course.
 
Kaitlan Collins may possibly have her credentials up for review..and not just for lacking manners.





She just posted(and deleted) a support fund for Luigi Mangioni.

There is serious questions about how safe it is to have somebody who supports cold blooded political violence in proximity of the President. Especially when that violence she supports is “eat the rich” type of terrorism. A billionaire president who’s most influential adviser is the richest. I hope to hear her card was pulled pending investigation by Monday.

Especially when the “legal defense” for Luigi is..what’s his legal defense?
 
Kingz said:
Kaitlan Collins may possibly have her credentials up for review..and not just for lacking manners.





She just posted(and deleted) a support fund for Luigi Mangioni.

There is serious questions about how safe it is to have somebody who supports cold blooded political violence in proximity of the President. Especially when that violence she supports is “eat the rich” type of terrorism. A billionaire president who’s most influential adviser is the richest. I hope to hear her card was pulled pending investigation by Monday.

Especially when the “legal defense” for Luigi is..what’s his legal defense?
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During a press conference on Thursday, she kept trying to talk over every other reporter, she WAS super rude. I knew she was a bitch, but was surprised how rude she was.
 
Kingz said:
Especially when the “legal defense” for Luigi is..what’s his legal defense?
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"Bad people I don't like deserve a bullet."

Collins is such a snake. Bitch cut her teeth with the "Daily Wire", and was complaining about George Soros and all the bad illegal immigrants. Now she's some woke idiot on CNN. Those types of "journalists" are the worst of the worst. No scruples whatsoever. Just unapologetic whores who would sell their mothers out for buck.
 
heloder said:
But he thinks I'm just "doing what I'm told" by not calling it the Gulf of America.

{<huh}

The mind of a cultist.
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You should stop deadnaming the Gulf of America.
It's very bigoted of you.
 
Fox by the Sea said:
lol @ you getting angry at a joke. ypu should go in the meme thread and start yelling at people <lol>
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I'm sure you've got loads of past trauma that you're working through, but I assure you not everybody who makes fun of you is angry. Some people just enjoy dunking on an easy target.

(Since you're not clever enough to understand my post; I was using an ironic form of the same rhetoric the right uses when bitching about the left's use of "deadnaming" and other woke shit.)
 
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