Economy Trump's April 2nd Tariffs

No I'm blaming the democrats for the Republicans being in power.

Everyone knows what the Republicans will do if they take office and the whole job of the dnc is to stop them. They are failing at it spectacularly

The dnc has become unpalatable and it doesnt seem like any of you guys want to address that little problem at all.

By all means carry on. I can live under republican rule just fine.
So the only way the Democrats get your vote is if they meet your specific requirements and no one else's. This is why the left keeps failing. Because this "perfect" candidate doesn't exist. And then you losers turn around and vote for trump while simultaneously blaming Democrats for Trump's policy. It makes no sense.
 
Right, I forgot Congress needs 2/3 of votes to actually remove tariff powers (since Trump will veto it)

I guess you'll just have to deal with it

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The customs are 10%, based on the price + shipping, then there's VAT on top of that, so VAT on price + shipping + customs. Then there's road viability testing which is another cost. And then of course there are regulations created because the ruling class absolutely despises the peasants in Europe. So if you want to drive a solid V8 you need to pay the tax man thousands every year.

0 for 0 will be a major success for America, but you are correct in highlighting that EU has a million shady tactics in place to benefit and promote Germany and France.

VAT is a sales tax with another name.

All cars pay VAT even those made in the EU.
 
I see those aspect as lesser of the evils at this point. Would prefer they change on them but won’t not vote for them over it

Right pushes way more culture war bullshit at this point to inflate the issues


I get it dude I really do

We are all trying to make what we think are the right choices to move the ball down the field and get the country where we think it should be

I'll take some short term pain if it makes the democrats get their shit together and be who I think they need to be and reorder their priorities

We also all have our lines that we don't want to cross

For me I'm not budging on no more gun control and fighting for national Healthcare. I will not vote for these people if they can't meet me where I'm at. I'm sick to death of paying taxes and not getting much in return and I'm also sick to death of my rights being on the chopping block every time a democrat takes office.

I don't know that the right pushes more culture war either ...it takes 2 to tango and both are getting their hotdogging and grandstanding in.... its just that I am culturally kind of conservative so the rights version chaps my ass a lot less. But I want it to stop just the same.
 
No I'm blaming the democrats for the Republicans being in power.

Everyone knows what the Republicans will do if they take office and the whole job of the dnc is to stop them. They are failing at it spectacularly

The dnc has become unpalatable and it doesnt seem like any of you guys want to address that little problem at all.

By all means carry on. I can live under republican rule just fine.
If everyone knows what the republicans are going to do if they take office, then “everyone” shouldn’t vote for that. It’s up to the voters to stop them.

Look, I’m not saying we couldn’t have had better messaging or run a better campaign, we most definitely could’ve and should’ve. But we told you full well wtf Trump was going to do, and you’re like “shame on you libs for not convincing me enough”?? No bud, that’s your fault. We told everyone exactly what he was going to do, and got memes and trolls in response. This is on the electorate for being poorly informed and easily duped.
 
Everyone knows what the Republicans will do if they take office and the whole job of the dnc is to stop them. They are failing at it spectacularly

This is quite literally untrue as everybody that voted for Trump did so on the assumption that he was going to wave away inflation with his magic wand instead of skyrocketing it with retarded tarriffs.

Of course they also supported the retarded tarriffs, because they have no idea how tarriffs work and they think it's somehow a tax cut for them LOL
 
So the only way the Democrats get your vote is if they meet your specific requirements and no one else's. This is why the left keeps failing. Because this "perfect" candidate doesn't exist. And then you losers turn around and vote for trump while simultaneously blaming Democrats for Trump's policy. It makes no sense.


Yea thats how voting works. And I have plenty of wiggle room on all kinds of issues it's just that for me I don't have any wiggle room on those 2.

They can try to get votes however they want. I'm just saying what they need to do to get mine. These people want my vote not the other way around so why the hell should I have to bend to them ?

I blame the Republicans for shitty republican policy

I blame the democrats for them being in office and being able to enact it

And it likely doesn't make sense to you because they don't feel as unpalatable to you as they do to me.
 
If everyone knows what the republicans are going to do if they take office, then “everyone” shouldn’t vote for that. It’s up to the voters to stop them.

Look, I’m not saying we couldn’t have had better messaging or run a better campaign, we most definitely could’ve and should’ve. But we told you full well wtf Trump was going to do, and you’re like “shame on you libs for not convincing me enough”?? No bud, that’s your fault. We told everyone exactly what he was going to do, and got memes and trolls in response. This is on the electorate for being poorly informed and easily duped.
Yeah, it's amazing how selfish it is to blame Democrats when he voted for trump for not doing enough to convince him. Project 2025 was published in 2022.
Yea thats how voting works. And I have plenty of wiggle room on all kinds of issues it's just that for me I don't have any wiggle room on those 2.

They can try to get votes however they want. I'm just saying what they need to do to get mine. These people want my vote not the other way around so why the hell should I have to bend to them ?

I blame the Republicans for shitty republican policy

I blame the democrats for them being in office and being able to enact it

And it likely doesn't make sense to you because they don't feel as unpalatable to you as they do to me.

Buddy my empathy for you is non-existent. You voted for this. This is your fault. Blaming Democrats for trump being in office is just about the most ridiculously selfish thing a trump voter could do/say. You fucking dorks want zero accountability for your trash ass decisions.
 
Yeah, it's amazing how selfish it is to blame Democrats when he voted for trump for not doing enough to convince him. Project 2025 was published in 2022.


Buddy my empathy for you is non-existent. You voted for this. This is your fault. Blaming Democrats for trump being in office is just about the most ridiculously selfish thing a trump voter could do/say. You fucking dorks want zero accountability for your trash ass decisions.


Well the feeling is mutual so we have at least found some common ground.
 
This is quite literally untrue as everybody that voted for Trump did so on the assumption that he was going to wave away inflation with his magic wand instead of skyrocketing it with retarded tarriffs.

Of course they also supported the retarded tarriffs, because they have no idea how tarriffs work and they think it's somehow a tax cut for them LOL

There was a lot of "Day 1" rhetoric. So far he's handed over a good chunk of power to a non-elected venture capitalist, failed to broker a deal for Ukraine that isn't literally just giving Putin everything he wants, and has deliberately tanked the US economy by using exorbitant tariffs as a negotiation tool. Will his strategies pay off? Time will tell.
 
These two are linked, sale of American cars would skyrocket in Europe if they didn't cost 3 times as much as they do in US. Europe is producing countless regulations specifically designed to benefit France and Germany and suck the joy out of European population. 0 for 0 will be an enormous success that will revitalise American industry.

As for a trade war with China, that's way more important. I'm willing to drive the same car and use the same electronics I have now for the next 5 years if it means that America will stop the race to the bottom in the area of quality of life.
Nobody outside of Ford/Tesla sells any us cars in Europe, they aren't desirable
 
At this point, would you trade trannies in bathrooms for all your money back?
This logic is amazing. It seems some people have no problem with a worldwide economic collapse because some douchebag tranny wants to go into a woman's bathroom. Did you ever stop to think that maybe this topic is shoved down thw right wing's throats so they won't care when they are fucked by stuff that actually affects them. The whole but trannies response for absolutely every topic just seems ridiculous.
 
This is quite literally untrue as everybody that voted for Trump did so on the assumption that he was going to wave away inflation with his magic wand instead of skyrocketing it with retarded tarriffs.

Of course they also supported the retarded tarriffs, because they have no idea how tarriffs work and they think it's somehow a tax cut for them LOL


I didn't. I voted for trump as a message to the democrats that I don't like what you are doing and want you to change course. I'm aware that you can't just magic wand away that inflation. I'm not a Maga and I think trump is a fucking retard. I'm just willing to suffer to send that message to the democrats as I think things will be better in the long run if they receive it.

I do support tariffs but I do not like the way they are being applied at all and wish that there was a much better plan in place than just randomly throwing them around.
 
So the end result of this fucking mess is the destruction of alliances, massive losses in wealth for the majority of the world, hatred for the US, countries moving towards China for stability, the US losing it’s standing in the world, massive negative economic impacts, and no increase in many in the US.
I’m starting to think that electing a reality TV game show host wasn’t such a great idea..
 
If everyone knows what the republicans are going to do if they take office, then “everyone” shouldn’t vote for that. It’s up to the voters to stop them.

Look, I’m not saying we couldn’t have had better messaging or run a better campaign, we most definitely could’ve and should’ve. But we told you full well wtf Trump was going to do, and you’re like “shame on you libs for not convincing me enough”?? No bud, that’s your fault. We told everyone exactly what he was going to do, and got memes and trolls in response. This is on the electorate for being poorly informed and easily duped.

No this isn't true and you are acting as if I owe the democrats my vote. They can serve my interests or they can be out of power.

I new he was going to suck and be a total moron. I dont care.I want the democrats to hear me loud and clear that I would rather vote for orange Hitler than the current bullshit they are selling

National Healthcare and no more gun control bullshit or I will not vote for you. It really is that simple.
 
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