Economy Trump's April 2nd Tariffs

[JudoThrowFiasco]

Saying the same thing, regardless of whether I said that. Lol.

What do you actually think, sir?

How drunk or high are you?

You jumped into the middle of a conversation I was having regarding initial tariff reasoning dating back to the advent of free trade expansion in the 80's/90's with a non sequitur question.

But if you need attention that badly, I agree Trump tariffs follow no real logical implementation outside of a crude formula trying to balance out trade imbalances. They have no real industry specific focus and no real pathways of direct protectionism; i.e any revenue generated goes to building the infrastructure needed in to produce domestically to meet demands. Now if the theory that this creates currency imbalances and forces countries to direct FDI into US treasuries and bonds, or into American firms themselves, that would be a home run but the odds of that seem low at best.

There you go...and if I had a cookie I'd give you that too along with a nice pat on the head.

 

[Squarechoke]

Yes, tell me again - why shouldn't we have tariffs against countries who have tariffs on the US? What is the logic to allow everyone else placing tarrifs on the US without reciprocity?

You already had tariffs in place, how can you think that you didn't? The difference here is that tariffs are generally used on selected goods to balance the market in price or protect important manufacturing. Throwing out blanket tariffs on everything is a completely different matter and the US is doing that towards countries that certainly didn't have such in place on US goods, although they likely will soon as retaliation.

As for your other post talking about Trump not communicating his goals well, that's probably deliberate since the most likely to suffer from that domestically is the middle class, and you don't get elected if you say you'll make it worse for them. Musk was honest and said that the middle class would have to prepare for harder times though.

 

[The Diplomat]

How drunk or high are you?

You jumped into the middle of a conversation I was having regarding initial tariff reasoning dating back to the advent of free trade in the 80's with a non sequitur question.

But if you need attention that badly, I agree Trump tariffs follow no real logical implementation outside of a crude formula trying to balance out trade imbalances. They have no real industry specific focus and no real pathways of direct protectionism; i.e any revenue generated goes to building the infrastructure needed in to produce domestically to meet demands. Now if the theory that currency imbalances this creates forces countries to direct FDI into US treasuries and bonds, or into American firms themselves, that would be a home run but the odds of that seem low at best.

There you go...and if I had a cookie I'd give you that too along with a nice pat on the head.

1. Yes.

2. I was responding to you. "Jumping into" is false nomenclature, because this is a public forum. To act like I'm the weird one is dishonest.

3. I'm only putting attention on you because I actually care wtf you think. Your contextual clues are a bit slow here.

That being said

4. I'm glad I forced you to say that we pretty much agree on Trump being a dumb ass.

 

[ermac88]

When do we get to see the tax cuts that these tariffs are going to fund?

You missed his tax proposal

Its only for the billionaires

The rest of us, the masses are getting fucked in real time without Vaseline-

Now the price of consumer goods will sky rocket while 401ks will take a major dump

This has to be the biggest blatant trasfer or wealth/ theft in modern times and the poorly educated are praising him while emptying their pockets

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

1. Yes.

2. I was responding to you. "Jumping into" is false nomenclature, because this is a public forum. To act like I'm the weird one is dishonest.

It's not- by this point into a thread there's several sub discussions ranging from on topic to completely off. Stoicis questions was why do foreign first world countries have initial tariffs with each other -- pre-dating Trump. I simply said because legacy industries developed strong lobby for protectionism or to counter long standing subsidies. Thats it, non Trump related, just giving someone with no idea on the history a brief lesson.

 

[The Diplomat]

It's not- by this point into a thread there's several sub discussions ranging from on topic to completely off. Stoicis questions was why do foreign first world countries have initial tariffs with each other -- pre-dating Trump. I simply said because legacy industries developed strong lobby for protectionism or to counter long standing subsidies. Thats it, non Trump related, just giving someone with no idea on the history a brief lesson.

Contextual clues should solve all of this. Regardless, love ya, I'm a fan.

And yet IQ isn't everything. Had a debate with my father about it. He's a liberal like me, and has an IQ of 150. I have an IQ of 130, but put more emphasis on empathy and what not. I say "a person with an iq of 100 who prefers to be empathetic and help others is better than someone with 180 and screws others"

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

Contextual clues should solve all of this. Regardless, love ya, I'm a fan.

And yet IQ isn't everything. Had a debate with my father about it. He's a liberal like me, and has an IQ of 150. I have an IQ of 130, but put more emphasis on empathy and what not. I say "a person with an iq of 100 who prefers to be empathetic and help others its better than someone with 180 and screws others"

Welp...thanks for the folksy tale from the Diplomat household?

 

[The Diplomat]

Welp...thanks for the folksy tale from the Diplomat household?

One of these days, when I'm dead, you guys will be nostalgic for the Dippy days.

 

[curryjunkie]

I voted for and admired David for quitting if we left the EU and he resigned as soon as it happened.

I wanted us to leave for local butchers and farmers. It didn't sit well that schools as an example had to tender out to 3 EU companies for business when we should have been looking after our own citizens' businesses?

Then you were a moron

 

[Zazen]

Remember all those conspiracies about the deep state? Can we all write that off as bullshit now? If they existed I’m pretty sure Trump would have had an accident if you know what I mean.

 

[koquerelle]

UAW union is backing trump.

Please don't have children.

 

[koquerelle]

You missed his tax proposal

Its only for the billionaires

The rest of us, the masses are getting fucked in real time without Vaseline-

Now the price of consumer goods will sky rocket while 401ks will take a major dump

This has to be the biggest blatant transfer or wealth/ theft in modern times and the poorly educated are praising him while emptying their pockets

Stop it! Trump loves the working men. He's been fucking them over his whole life, but he changed his philosophy once he was elected.

 

[fingercuffs]

Then you were a moron

I'm a moron for wanting local business to strive?

 

[curryjunkie]

I'm a moron for wanting local business to strive?

For thinking the answer was leaving a huge trading block on your doorstep , plus you fucked off out the country afterwards like lots of other brexiteers, now farmers are even more fucked than before... congrats

 

[fingercuffs]

For thinking the answer was leaving a huge trading block on your doorstep , plus you fucked off out the country afterwards like lots of other brexiteers, now farmers are even more fucked than before... congrats

What makes you think I left after Brexit?I left in 2010.

 

[Substance Abuse]

Oh, man... I hate to post disinformation and lies, but I feel compelled to fake news you guys. Apologies.

 

[The Diplomat]

Oh, man... I hate to post disinformation and lies, but I feel compelled to fake news you guys. Apologies.

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[The Diplomat]

Yeah. Everyone is stupid. Except for those who side with Dippy.

 

[Anung Un Rama]

Donald Trump’s economic masterplan - UNHERD - Yanis Varoufakis

Faced with President Trump’s economic moves, his centrist critics oscillate between desperation and a touching faith that his tariff frenzy will fizzle out. They assume that Trump will huff and puff until reality exposes the emptiness of his economic rationale. They have not been paying...

www.yanisvaroufakis.eu

I'm not enough of an economic expert to know if this is BS or not but I found this article by a pretty left wing economic expert who's actually quite in favour of tariffs interesting.

I know this guy is supposed to be a somewhat respected economist, and economics is not a strong suit for me, but this reads like copium MAGA fan fiction