Economy Trump's April 2nd Tariffs

I agree US shouldn't need China anymore and should start building everything in house..

Any reason why Trump capitulated? I thought he was going to bring those jobs here and force the companies to make the products here, that was the whole purpose of the tariffs right? Why the exemptions?

Looks like Trump got pushed around and the old man buckled under the pressure no?

What tangibly changed from tariffing China on everything to then making exemptions for many things that come directly out of China, all in the span of a week or so🤣

Did China make any exemptions or negotiate with the US for anything in particular for Trump to allow the exemptions?

Hard to say why since there's several possible reasons.
1) Got leaned on by his corporate overlords. Apple, Walmart, etc. told him everyone dies if there's no exemptions for the shit they sell.
2) He doesn't know WTF he's doing and just throwing shit at a wall to see what sticks.
3) He thought he could bluff China into folding like many other nations did and failed, then had to carve out exemptions to keep his own markets from crashing.

Personally I'm leaning towards the first reason as the primary one with a bit of the others thrown in.
 
Hard to say why since there's several possible reasons.
1) Got leaned on by his corporate overlords. Apple, Walmart, etc. told him everyone dies if there's no exemptions for the shit they sell.
2) He doesn't know WTF he's doing and just throwing shit at a wall to see what sticks.
3) He thought he could bluff China into folding like many other nations did and failed, then had to carve out exemptions to keep his own markets from crashing.

Personally I'm leaning towards the first reason as the primary one with a bit of the others thrown in.

I prefer hearing the spin moves from MAGA.
5d chess art of the deal right Seano?😂
 
This is the first time I have seen this when Biden was President just before he left it was written 4.25 a dozen now they don't even bother to put the price down. As they say if you have to ask it's too expensive.

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Jesus Christ. They fucked up the market again.




Lutnick is yet another guy with a sterling reputation as a businessman, who's being exposed as a total fraud and an idiot.

The sooner that society comes to grips with how useless and parasitic most of the billionaire class is, the better.

somebody in finance journalism described him as just a broker, he takes a commision on bond sales, doesnt make him an expert in any sense of the word
 
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somebody in finance journalism described him as just a broker, he takes a commision on bond sales, doesnt make him an expert in any sense of the word
They are crashing the market to make more billions for their inner circle.
 
Jesus Christ. They fucked up the market again.




Lutnick is yet another guy with a sterling reputation as a businessman, who's being exposed as a total fraud and an idiot.

The sooner that society comes to grips with how useless and parasitic most of the billionaire class is, the better.


 
Somehow I think driving our allies in the Pacific like Japan and South Korea towards the Chinese through an ill advised trade war is not the best way to achieve that.
This is the correct answer. A President who was not a Sundowning Clown, would have shored up his allies, subsidized building manufacturing plants in the US and then started to go after China.
We got a clown listening to dumbass Peter Navarro, attacking allies, wanting a 3rd term and said out loud Greenland and Canada should be part of the USA. Most nations don’t want to be part of a clown show. So they are looking to make deals elsewhere
69d Chess indeed.
 

Trumps oligarchs buddies buying puts and the sell 10 minutes before Trump announces tariff rollbacks, then they buy shares.
Rinse and repeat. The wealth transfer after his second term will put Trump 1.0 to shame.
Sad part the scam is out for all to see, but until Fox News make the Rubes aware of the market manipulation, Trump will keep doing it.
 
Trumps oligarchs buddies buying puts and the sell 10 minutes before Trump announces tariff rollbacks, then they buy shares.
Rinse and repeat. The wealth transfer after his second term will put Trump 1.0 to shame.
Sad part the scam is out for all to see, but until Fox News make the Rubes aware of the market manipulation, Trump will keep doing it.
And frankly, there isn't anyone to stop him. There's nobody who could investigate Trump outside of his own personal control.
 
So there was no capitulation on the tarriffs afterall, it was simply a clarification that these products which fall into a different category would remain exempt from tarriffs as they always have been.

What a shocker the media misrepresented this again.
 
its been great seeing CHINA grovel under the heel of the USA! trump exposed who our real allies with the tarrifs! Every allied country must follow suit with USA and put 125% on CHINA so that we can bring back the jobs and not let CHINA bully the world with its underhanded tactics!
 

Gordon Brown accuses Trump of ‘weaponising’ global trade system​

Former PM says governments should team up to create ‘global rescue plan’ that counters US president’s tariffs

Jasper Jolly

Gordon Brown has accused Donald Trump of “weaponising” the global trading system with steep import tariffs that threaten a “breakdown” in the global economic order.

The former prime minister said governments and central banks should come up with a “global rescue plan” comparable to actions taken during the global financial crisis of 2008, including synchronised interest rate cuts to cushion the blow from tariffs.


Echoing concerns among bankers and City grandees that the US tariff regime could cause a second week of turmoil on international financial markets, Brown said action was needed “to get ahead of events” or else a recession could turn into a 1930s style depression.

Brown urged finance ministers and central bankers from around the world to discuss shoring up the global economy when they meet in Washington after the Easter weekend at the annual meetings of the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank.


Brown’s comments, in an interview broadcast on BBC Radio 4 on Sunday, will also add to pressure on the Bank of England’s governor, Andrew Bailey, to loosen monetary policy, after the former deputy governor Charlie Bean last week said the global uncertainty would prevent businesses from investing and slow consumer spending.

Calls for dramatic interest rate cuts to offset the impact of tariffs have intensified since last week when Trump caused turmoil in financial asset prices, after his “liberation day” tariffs prompted fears of a global recession and threatened to spiral into a full-blown financial crisis.

The US president partly retreated from the heaviest tariffs aimed at most countries after a steep sell-off in American government debt and excluded some electronics including smartphones. However, he still imposed 10% tariffs on every country in the world, as well as 145% levies on China, which he sees as the cause of the decline of manufacturing jobs in the US.

The chief executive of JP Morgan, Jamie Dimon, said late on Friday that the cumulative effect was that the US faced a 50% chance of a recession this year.

Peter Navarro, one of the key architects behind Trump’s trade war, said it was “unfolding exactly like we thought it would in a dominant scenario”, in an interview on Sunday with NBC.

He added that the US has “no defence against other than tariffs right now” when confronted with what the US has alleged – with little evidence – are non-tariff barriers, currency manipulation and taxes.

The billionaire investor Ray Dalio on Sunday said he feared a tariff war would accelerate the end of post-second world war trading arrangements and generate conflicts across the world.

Dalio, the founder of hedge fund Bridgewater Associates, separately told NBC that the reinstatement of higher tariff rates after a 90-day pause could be “highly disruptive to the world economy” and could even cause military conflict.

Brown said that Trump had “weaponised” the interdependence of the global trading and financial systems.

Brown served as UK prime minister from 2007 until 2010, with much of his time dominated by the international response to the global financial crisis. He said the trade war would require a similar “synchronised reduction in interest rates” from central banks, with Australia, Canada, the EU, Japan and South Korea among those who could work together.

“It’s got to come from Europe or Britain or perhaps from other parts of the world,” Brown said, with the US and China, the world’s two largest economies, locked in a trade war.

However, some central bankers are cautious about cutting interest rates because of concerns that existing inflationary pressures will be worsened by price rises to pay for tariffs.

Brown acknowledged that inflation could go up, but said the worst effects of the tariff turmoil are yet to filter through from financial markets to living standards.

The UK Labour government under Keir Starmer has so far tried to avoid antagonising the US. Brown said he understood his successor’s strategy, and said it was not yet time for the UK to choose definitively to move away from the US and prioritise European relations.

However, Brown said the UK needed to find partners other than the US to “rebuild the world order” based on the rule of law, human rights and climate action.

More broadly, the world was moving from a “unipolar” order dominated by the US to a “multipolar” one, Brown said.

“The way forward can only be for countries in a multipolar order – if there is going to be order – to talk to each other and work with each other and consult with each other.

“We have to get back to a situation where people are willing to rebuild those blocks of the world order.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...uses-trump-of-weaponising-global-trade-system

- Trump already shatering US fragmented stance on foreign affairs.
 
So there was no capitulation on the tarriffs afterall, it was simply a clarification that these products which fall into a different category would remain exempt from tarriffs as they always have been.

What a shocker the media misrepresented this again.

What a shocker the media went exactly with what Trump said in a tweet, because this admin won't even inform the US trade representative of what the actual plan is... because there is none.
 
Hard to say why since there's several possible reasons.
1) Got leaned on by his corporate overlords. Apple, Walmart, etc. told him everyone dies if there's no exemptions for the shit they sell.
2) He doesn't know WTF he's doing and just throwing shit at a wall to see what sticks.
3) He thought he could bluff China into folding like many other nations did and failed, then had to carve out exemptions to keep his own markets from crashing.

Personally I'm leaning towards the first reason as the primary one with a bit of the others thrown in.
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Easily the worst president of my lifetime. Fast food living, disinformation, prejudices and pandering made tons of idiots forget the first term. Fucking idiot president. Fucking idiot voters.
I was doing a lot better in Trumps first term than I did all through Bidens presidency. *shrug* In the midst of a damn pandemic, I was better off than now.
 
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