Economy Trump vs. Musk

lsa said:
Go on, tell us why this is orchestrated.
What does Musk and Trump gain by this?
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More market chaos to cash in on, which has been the main hallmark of this regime.

Almost nothing seems to be done with the country or electorate first, everything has reeked of a cash grab. The main appeasement of voters, if anything, has been the headlines about immigrants. Everything else looks like it's been a way to transfer yet more wealth to the top/insider trading.

Tariffs are no longer shocking the market, so now we need more of a soap opera farce where "Fallings out" bottom out stocks.

Yet nothing had actually changed. Musk was always leaving the government, the plan continues to be the same one, just noisier now.

Very suspicious indeed. But naturally people will buy the drama as that's all the right wing has offered since Trump took power. Drama. Culture wars. Him vs him. Nah. Not for.me
 
Misfit23 said:
I think Elon will apologize. Too many government to contracts tied to his companies.
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It's amazing we're all just so nonchalant about Trump abusing his power to retaliate against his foes. I think Musk has a bad habit of calling people :eek::eek::eek::eek:philes, so maybe legal action might be necessary, but going after his business interests would clearly be illegal. Trump has no qualms in openly making the threat though and most people here wouldn't put it past him.
 
Siver! said:
More market chaos to cash in on, which has been the main hallmark of this regime.

Almost nothing seems to be done with the country or electorate first, everything has reeked of a cash grab. The main appeasement of voters, if anything, has been the headlines about immigrants. Everything else looks like it's been a way to transfer yet more wealth to the top/insider trading.

Tariffs are no longer shocking the market, so now we need more of a soap opera farce where "Fallings out" bottom out stocks.

Yet nothing had actually changed. Musk was always leaving the government, the plan continues to be the same one, just noisier now.

Very suspicious indeed. But naturally people will buy the drama as that's all the right wing has offered since Trump took power. Drama. Culture wars. Him vs him. Nah. Not for.me
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Well musk says he wants to found a new party. They can fake a fallout and a new rivalry to hold opinions on their side and make the public argue about their nonsenae.
 
Siver! said:
More market chaos to cash in on, which has been the main hallmark of this regime.

Almost nothing seems to be done with the country or electorate first, everything has reeked of a cash grab. The main appeasement of voters, if anything, has been the headlines about immigrants. Everything else looks like it's been a way to transfer yet more wealth to the top/insider trading.

Tariffs are no longer shocking the market, so now we need more of a soap opera farce where "Fallings out" bottom out stocks.

Yet nothing had actually changed. Musk was always leaving the government, the plan continues to be the same one, just noisier now.

Very suspicious indeed. But naturally people will buy the drama as that's all the right wing has offered since Trump took power. Drama. Culture wars. Him vs him. Nah. Not for.me
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Teslas stock is down and Musk took a hit. Its in the billions.
Tesla already had problems and Musk claimed he had to leave DOGE to focus on his companies.
This did not help Musks companies at all.

Do you really believe Trump is okay with Musk claiming he is in the Epstein files?
Musk pretty much calls him a sex offender and PDF

If we look internationally, does this benefit Trump?
Or is people shaking their heads?
Trump looks even worse after this.
Does it benefit the Republican party? Do it make them stronger and more united?

There are better ways for them to make money than having hissyfits on social medias to try and tank the stock market or what ever.
 
lsa said:
Teslas stock is down and Musk took a hit. Its in the billions.
Tesla already had problems and Musk claimed he had to leave DOGE to focus on his companies.
This did not help Musks companies at all.

Do you really believe Trump is okay with Musk claiming he is in the Epstein files?
Musk pretty much calls him a sex offender and PDF

If we look internationally, does this benefit Trump?
Or is people shaking their heads?
Trump looks even worse after this.
Does it benefit the Republican party? Do it make them stronger and more united?

There are better ways for them to make money than having hissyfits on social medias to try and tank the stock market or what ever.
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The Tesla stock dipping doesn't matter, they know it doesn't matter, and so does everyone on here.

It's just bounced back based on nothing. Musk is still universally unpopular, sales have tanked, there's no reason for Tesla to be so overvalued.

Now it will recover again.

Was there a better way to shave 15 percent off the price than this? If there was, you'll have to let me in on the secret...

I won't go as far as to claim Trump will be so magnanimous he's handing over power, because LOL, but even Trump is saying it's all fine and part of the game.

Because it is. It's unusual and silly, but they'll be buddies again when they need stock prices to rise again. This is all just about shock n awe in the stock market, nothing else, and it will all be forgotten in probably a month or two.
 
Siver! said:
The Tesla stock dipping doesn't matter, they know it doesn't matter, and so does everyone on here.

It's just bounced back based on nothing. Musk is still universally unpopular, sales have tanked, there's no reason for Tesla to be so overvalued.

Now it will recover again.

Was there a better way to shave 15 percent off the price than this? If there was, you'll have to let me in on the secret...

I won't go as far as to claim Trump will be so magnanimous he's handing over power, because LOL, but even Trump is saying it's all fine and part of the game.

Because it is. It's unusual and silly, but they'll be buddies again when they need stock prices to rise again. This is all just about shock n awe in the stock market, nothing else, and it will all be forgotten in probably a month or two.
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I think a lot of people predicted this alliance was destined to fracture. Two egos like that are incompatible. They both want to lead the team and they both hate to share the ball.
 
Siver! said:
The Tesla stock dipping doesn't matter, they know it doesn't matter, and so does everyone on here.

It's just bounced back based on nothing. Musk is still universally unpopular, sales have tanked, there's no reason for Tesla to be so overvalued.

Now it will recover again.

Was there a better way to shave 15 percent off the price than this? If there was, you'll have to let me in on the secret...

I won't go as far as to claim Trump will be so magnanimous he's handing over power, because LOL, but even Trump is saying it's all fine and part of the game.

Because it is. It's unusual and silly, but they'll be buddies again when they need stock prices to rise again. This is all just about shock n awe in the stock market, nothing else, and it will all be forgotten in probably a month or two.
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LOL...
Yes the US president fakes a beef with the worlds riches man to tank the stock market.
You got it all figured out.
They manage fool the world and even their closest allies and colleagues.
But not you, you know better.

<{hughesimpress}>
 
Siver! said:
The Tesla stock dipping doesn't matter, they know it doesn't matter, and so does everyone on here.

It's just bounced back based on nothing. Musk is still universally unpopular, sales have tanked, there's no reason for Tesla to be so overvalued.

Now it will recover again.

Was there a better way to shave 15 percent off the price than this? If there was, you'll have to let me in on the secret...

I won't go as far as to claim Trump will be so magnanimous he's handing over power, because LOL, but even Trump is saying it's all fine and part of the game.

Because it is. It's unusual and silly, but they'll be buddies again when they need stock prices to rise again. This is all just about shock n awe in the stock market, nothing else, and it will all be forgotten in probably a month or two.
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It bounced back for several reasons

1) general markets bounced when taco paused tariffs
2) Tesla investors anticipating big robotaxi unveil and speculators riding that wave nicely
3) Tesla whales pumping in time for juicy stock sells

Two Tesla (TSLA) insiders close to Elon Musk just sold almost $200 million worth of stocks

Two Tesla board members close to Elon Musk, Ira Ehrenpreis and Kimbal Musk, just sold almost $200 million worth of...
electrek.co electrek.co

It's all timed nicely but the big ones are general market sentiment thanks to taco pause and the robotaxi hype runup.

It would've fallen quick after the unveil anyways. This Trump beef just started the clock a few days earlier
 
lsa said:
LOL...
Yes the US president fakes a beef with the worlds riches man to tank the stock market.
You got it all figured out.
They manage fool the world and even their closest allies and colleagues.
But not you, you know better.

<{hughesimpress}>
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What about all those wacky CTards that think the tariffs were a blatant cash grab and market manipulation?

Gonna give them some shit too?
 
MrShady said:
It bounced back for several reasons

1) general markets bounced when taco paused tariffs
2) Tesla investors anticipating big robotaxi unveil and speculators riding that wave nicely
3) Tesla whales pumping in time for juicy stock sells

Two Tesla (TSLA) insiders close to Elon Musk just sold almost $200 million worth of stocks

Two Tesla board members close to Elon Musk, Ira Ehrenpreis and Kimbal Musk, just sold almost $200 million worth of...
electrek.co electrek.co

It's all timed nicely but the big ones are general market sentiment thanks to taco pause and the robotaxi hype runup.

It would've fallen quick after the unveil anyways. This Trump beef just started the clock a few days earlier
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Well yeah.

Create fear = tank, TACO = back to normal.

It's not as radical or intelligent as @lsa seems to think.

Threaten tariff, threaten "epic fall out", same shit, different words.

It would be more believable if the fall out was more gradual, but that wouldn't tank the markets hard enough.

So OMG face turn Elon... lol

It's as tacky as a WWE storyline. It's The Rock turning on Faarooq. Real life politics doesn't work like that.
 
"We're going to go with this bill we've been talking about for ages"

Suddenly

"omg I absolutely hate you we are enemies you are a :eek::eek::eek::eek:"

Pure theatre.
 
Siver! said:
Well yeah.

Create fear = tank, TACO = back to normal.

It's not as radical or intelligent as @lsa seems to think.

Threaten tariff, threaten "epic fall out", same shit, different words.
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There is lots of market manipulation for sure but I was specifically referencing why Tesla ran up so much on nothing especially after bad earnings. That robotaxi unveil will be a disaster as usual and it will slide as usual back to the low $200s.

I don't think this Elon Trump thing was "orchestrated" though. Elon has a history of flying off the handles and calling people :eek::eek::eek::eek:s. The man is addicted to tweeting and he's high as a kite, not to mention most likely bipolar or manic. Trump probably was actually shocked or surprised at what Elon was saying yesterday 😂
 
Siver! said:
What about all those wacky CTards that think the tariffs were a blatant cash grab and market manipulation?

Gonna give them some shit too?
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No.
Because Trump has always been about tariffs.
That he and his friend could enrich them self was a huge bonus.


There is quite a big difference between tariffs and faking a fight on social media.
Hell now the Democrats whats info and have gone to the FBI and DOJ to get info about the Epstein files.
I am sure this is something thats all okay in Trumps book.
This whole deal is making both Trump and Elon look bad.
See my previous post with this link

Everybody predicted that Trump and Musk would have a fall out.
We are talking 2 huge egos.
But keep believing its all staged,,,
I aint going try to change your mind so I am out.
 
Siver! said:
Well yeah.

Create fear = tank, TACO = back to normal.

It's not as radical or intelligent as @lsa seems to think.

Threaten tariff, threaten "epic fall out", same shit, different words.

It would be more believable if the fall out was more gradual, but that wouldn't tank the markets hard enough.

So OMG face turn Elon... lol

It's as tacky as a WWE storyline. It's The Rock turning on Faarooq. Real life politics doesn't work like that.
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Jeebus stop watching wrestling
Let me guess you also believe UFC fixes fights to make a few extra mil..
 
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