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International Trump/Vance or Zelensky - Who look the worst off in terms of public image by that Oval Office meeting?

Who look the worst off in terms of public image by that Oval Office meeting?


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I don't think @KnightTemplar is pro Putin at all tbh.
I don't see anyone that is "pro Putin".

I see some that are not Zelensky superfans. I see some that don't think Ukraine is worth a world war of nuclear superpowers. I see a LOT who don't want this stalemate death match to continue and be funded perpetually.

I think this is the biggest problem with people lately, you're either for or against whatever they're talking about. You're not allowed to sit anywhere in the middle.
 
For people still voting on this poll you might want to watch this bc this is a more accurate view of it at least anyone with sense . Lol

 
You sound like you're 8 years old. "my dad could beat up your dad"
I didn’t say it I’m responding to the statement. Keep posting though your just showing us how far the Trump intellectually challenged are .
 
I didn’t say it I’m responding to the statement. Keep posting though your just showing us how far the Trump intellectually challenged are .
You're the one who seems befuddled by everything anyone posts and then responds with barely legible posts of your own.
 

Is this the beginning? Swiss owned ship full of UK weapons sunk by Russia?
 

Is this the beginning? Swiss owned ship full of UK weapons sunk by Russia?

Beginning of what, exactly? It's not even been confirmed that the ship has been sunk yet.

I suspect we will see Russia take a more aggressive stance, though, since they know that unless they directly target US assets/troops, Trump won't do anything about it.
 
You think NATO is going to declare war on Russia because two civilians were killed?

Now that really IS silly. :rolleyes:
This one event? No. But who knows what snowball effect something like this could have. Lots of posturing from the EU over the past week.
 
This one event? No. But who knows what snowball effect something like this could have. Lots of posturing from the EU over the past week.

Russia brought down a Dutch passenger jet, killing well over 100 men, women and bairns. Holland and the rest of Europe did...fuck all.

Two people getting killed on a ship carrying supplies to Ukraine is the beginning of a Nothing Burger.
 
Russia brought down a Dutch passenger jet, killing well over 100 men, women and bairns. Holland and the rest of Europe did...fuck all.

Two people getting killed on a ship carrying supplies to Ukraine is the beginning of a Nothing Burger.
Just this past weekend, UK said they were ready to put boots on the ground and fighters in the air.

You and people like you, your nonchalant attitude about war is going to come back to hurt you.
 
Just this past weekend, UK said they were ready to put boots on the ground and fighters in the air.

You and people like you, your nonchalant attitude about war is going to come back to hurt you.

Only when a ceasefire has been signed and the troops etc can be deployed as peacekeepers. No one is talking about declaring war on Russia.

You and people like you embarrass yourselves by trying to turn every incident into the beginning of WWIII.
 
Whats stopping europe from going ahead with this war they want so bad? Who do these people think they are chastising us for not wanting to be involved in a war? "Oh no, Poland was so disappointed in us!" Fuck off. Send in YOUR boys Europe. Send YOUR money and equipment . Bankrupt YOUR country for this pointless war.
They won't because they know they aren't shit without us.

Keep in mind in 1994 US and russia signed an agreement to protect Ukraine at all cost if Ukraine demilitarized and got rid of their nukes (which they did).

This agreement had no expiration date as far as I'm aware.

So essentially USA stripped them naked for promised protection and now they are backtracking on a signed agreement.

Not only that ..Russia also signed the agreement and they are attacking them.
 
Vance did. When I was a kid, I had pet hamsters. Vance’s cheeks remind me of my hamsters when they would stuff food in there to go bury somewhere in the cage. Vance has the face of a cabbage patch doll. Some of us remember when Vance used to call Trump a fraud.
 
Ukraine should have never given away their nukes. I doubt we ever see a country willingly do that again.
 
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