International Trump/Vance or Zelensky - Who look the worst off in terms of public image by that Oval Office meeting?

[Croo67]

“Ukraine has been on its own since the start…”

Trump and Vance could’ve slapped Zelenskyy and still come out looking better after that disgusting comment.

 

[sanguinius]

No one came out well here as it was an overall diplomatic disaster.

It did however seem like that the attack on Zelensky was planned. Two on one and they started bringing up some of the pettier things. That they wanted to humiliate him on TV, but he didn't back down and it turned into something bigger. I'd clearly say that the US side looked like the instigator, which is looking worse than responding angrily.

Talking about looking bad though, nothing looks worse than Trump afterwards whining about that Zelensky is saying negative things about Putin. The most immature shit talker in world politics said that. He really tries to look like Putin's bitch.

If the little cross dresser would have stayed sober and not been demanding and rude, our leaders wouldn’t have had to put him in his place.
I’d say it worked out pretty well. The manlet former dancer needs to understand that we don’t owe him anything.

 

[Beechwood]

I thought Zelensky came across very poorly. He lost more support in America with his showing in the White House. One of Zelensky's biggest supports in the US, the Senator from SC, is now calling for him to resign.

From the deal that is being worked on, the creation of a buffer zone that doesn't have troops, but does have Americans in the zone working to create money for a poor broke ruined Ukraine, and to deter Russia from further border aggression, sounds like it would be beneficial for Ukraine. Zelensky isn't all that interested though.

Off the cuff thought, I have no idea about this, but some talked about how Zelensky didn't wear nice clothing to the White House. Instead he wore a gym outfit. It reminded me of outfits that communists or socialist wear. Zelensky mocked the idea of wearing a suit. He didn't come out and say that a suit is capitalist clothing but it did make me wonder. Zelensky might be far to the left with his politics, and all to often those far to the left feel an overwhelming need and desire to be vocal and obnoxious in their dislike for Trump and governments that support a market driven economic system, etc.

A video I enjoyed about the Trump Zelensky bizarre talk ~

Video: Victor Davis Hanson on Trump-Zelensky Dust-Up at Oval Office​

"Usually, in international diplomacy, the client doesn't dictate to the patron."​

Video: Victor Davis Hanson on Trump-Zelensky Dust-Up at Oval Office | Frontpage Mag

"Usually, in international diplomacy, the client doesn't dictate to the patron."

www.frontpagemag.com

 

[Prutfis]

They all looked terrible

 

[Squarechoke]

If the little cross dresser would have stayed sober and not been demanding and rude, our leaders wouldn’t have had to put him in his place.
I’d say it worked out pretty well. The manlet former dancer needs to understand that we don’t owe him anything.

Zelensky didn't come off well but to see a Trump supporter complain about rudeness is hilarious irony.

Then again, looking at how your post is written, I assume you're one of the guys who just likes the drama.

 

[CPH]

Vance is such a POS. I guess that politically, Zelensky's hands were tied, but it would have been sweet if he had told Vance to fuck off, and that he was here to talk to the president, not his lightweight lackey.

Vance is delusional if he thinks that he has a future post-Trump. The magas like him about as much as they like Cruz.

 

[KnightTemplar]

The Russians must have ran out of vodka and caviar while celebrating that fucking train wreck.

 

[Neph]

Another colossal fuck up by Trump and Vance, but should be of absolutely no surprise to anyone.

 

[Rholk]

No doubt a new level of shitshow, this stuff is historic imo.

As a genuine question here,
I see some people blaming Zelensky last night, but what could he have done that wouldn't have resulted in this.
(Bar signing an absurd deal)

 

[Hog-train]

Trump and Vance acted like infantile bullies - thereby accomplishing nothing.

Anyone who can't see that is really too far gone to see things objectively. Even people on the r/Conservative Reddit thread are criticizing Trump.

All the leaders and prime ministers of Europe are excoriating Trump on social media.

 

[Seano]

Trump and Vance acted like infantile bullies - thereby accomplishing nothing.

Anyone who can't see that is really too far gone to see things objectively. Even people on the r/Conservative Reddit thread are criticizing Trump.

All the leaders and prime ministers of Europe are excoriating Trump on social media.

Oh no, not social media! Send in the troops, its time for WW3.

 

[sanguinius]

Zelensky didn't come off well but to see a Trump supporter complain about rudeness is hilarious irony.

Then again, looking at how your post is written, I assume you're one of the guys who just likes the drama.

Oh, I don't care about rudeness in general, it is a manlet wretch begging for money while insulting my country that bothers me.

 

[sanguinius]

Another colossal fuck up by Trump and Vance, but should be of absolutely no surprise to anyone.

Yeah, we might have missed out on an opportunity to funnel more american dollars into the shemale manlet's pockets to fight a war they won't win that doesn't involve us. This is truly a dark day for america.