Law Trump says the Epstein list is a conspiracy created by Obama and Clinton

Do you believe Trump is in the Epstein List?

  • Yes, absolutely.

    Votes: 259 57.8%
  • Yes, probably.

    Votes: 125 27.9%
  • No, he's not on the list.

    Votes: 28 6.3%
  • No, there is no list. So of course he's not on it.

    Votes: 18 4.0%
  • I'm on the fence.

    Votes: 18 4.0%

  • Total voters
    448
It will go like every other idiotic thing trump has done. At first they’ll refuse to say whether or not they’d defend it because it would “never happen.” Then they (mildly and hesitantly) admit they would be against it when pressed hard enough. The final stage when it inevitably happens is them fully and unconditionally supporting it because insert whatever bullshit justification talking points were fed to them.
don't forget the "oh, sure NOW you want to prosecute a :eek::eek::eek::eek:phile, but where were you in 1912 when Reginald J. Sawyer of Minnesota's 3rd district was accused?"
 
Is there anyone here who would defend a Maxwell pardon if it happens?
Depending on what she gives up and what it leads to, perhaps commutation. Not full pardon.

Lets flip it, would you rather she keep her secrets and stay in jail or would you prefer she make a sweetheart deal and give up those names and evidence people want to hear?
 
I doubt it, but there might be 1 or 2. A pardon for Maxwell could mean the end of the GOP.
Well, MAGA dies with Trump, and MAGA is the GOP. They will have to find their own identity when that happens. However, a pardon will not end Trump. The right-wing media ecosystem is very good at messaging, and their supporters will fall in line.
 
I think it's newsworthy because the corrupt DNI is calling the former president a traitor, as a means of manipulating the public from pursuing information about the current president being associated with and/or participating in sexual child abuse. Not because I actually believe anything that surfing grifter has to say.

This admin has so many Iran-Contra Affair level scandals it's hard to keep track and not become numb to them as they surface. This latest disgrace would sink a normal presidency.
I agree with that, Gabbard needs to be drafted in front of a hearing to testify under oath over all this along with Bondi and Patel.
 
Depending on what she gives up and what it leads to, perhaps commutation. Not full pardon.

Lets flip it, would you rather she keep her secrets and stay in jail or would you prefer she make a sweetheart deal and give up those names and evidence people want to hear?

Without actual evidence, any testimony (or whatever you even call what she's giving right now outside of a court setting) by her is completely irrelevant. And it sure as hell isn't a replacement for the mountain of actual evidence gathered by the DOJ throughout this investigation. I assume you're in agreement with that, yes?
 
Depending on what she gives up and what it leads to, perhaps commutation. Not full pardon.

Lets flip it, would you rather she keep her secrets and stay in jail or would you prefer she make a sweetheart deal and give up those names and evidence people want to hear?

As a former prosecutor, anyone who gives this whore a deal needs to be tied to a tree and skinned.

If you think she deserves to walk, then your father raised a bitch.
 
Depending on what she gives up and what it leads to, perhaps commutation. Not full pardon.

Lets flip it, would you rather she keep her secrets and stay in jail or would you prefer she make a sweetheart deal and give up those names and evidence people want to hear?

She has no secrets. There's plenty of clear evidence of who was doing things with Jeff. The mental gymnastics to fucking defend Ghislain Maxwell is a new low. Every time I think the bottom has been reached something proves us wrong.
 
You have no idea what she knows.
Yeah, and we'll still have no idea, even if what she said to Trump's lawyer becomes public.

In addition to being a sex trafficker, peter file and rapist, she is also a liar. She has already been charged with multiple counts of perjury. She's not going to get a pardon if she says anything negative about Trump, plain and simple. She'll attack his enemies/ anyone who is expendable, and who knows if it will be true or not.
 
The Esptein Files are on Pam Bondi's desk, guys.

No wait, there are no Epstein files!

No wait, the files exist, but its a hoax created by Obama!

No wait, the files are in Ghislaine Maxwell's prison cell!

 
Depending on what she gives up and what it leads to, perhaps commutation. Not full pardon.

Lets flip it, would you rather she keep her secrets and stay in jail or would you prefer she make a sweetheart deal and give up those names and evidence people want to hear?
And you think the deal will include Trumps name on the list ? Did you skip nap time today ?
 
And you think the deal will include Trumps name on the list ?
So all that matters to you is if Trump is on the "list"? You really don't care about anyone else who may have committed crimes there or the people they victimized? Just "Trump, Trump,Trump"?
 
So all that matters to you is if Trump is on the "list"? You really don't care about anyone else who may have committed crimes there or the people they victimized? Just "Trump, Trump,Trump"?
Is that what he said?

Anyone who was involved deserves to face justice.

But Maxwell will stay in prison until her 80's if she mentions Trump did anything bad.

It's so very obvious how to get MAGA to fall back in line here. Just throw the troglodytes some red meat. They'll devour it like Liver King eating raw testicles. Ghislaine can just say "Bill Clinton fucked kids." Maybe throw in some more enemies. Trump gives her a pardon, says "I promised to release the Epstein list. Promises made, promises kept." He'll claim Ghislaine was misunderstood. She didn't do anything bad. She was fighting the bad guys, actually. Which is the Radical Left.

MAGA completely forgets about Trump's lies surrounding the issue, Trump's own involvement, and focuses on Clinton. The quid pro quo will be ignored. Any liberals who speak up will be met with "You're just a partisan trying to defend Clinton!" TDS! Trump's not involved, Maxwell said so. All you care about is getting Trump!" Etc, Etc.
 
As a former prosecutor, anyone who gives this whore a deal needs to be tied to a tree and skinned.

If you think she deserves to walk, then your father raised a bitch.
They will justify anything. Literal anything.
The amount of Chinese acrobat contortionist mental gymnastics they will go to has morphed into new found territory with the "Free Maxwell" shit brewing.

Yet they have zero wiggle room or compassion for non-whites, homeless, gays, trans & libs but all the excuses and non judgement for elite rich human trafficking whites who dealt in children.

This is who they stomp for..... versus who they cut down as their enemy
 
Is that what he said?

Anyone who was involved deserves to face justice.

But Maxwell will stay in prison until her 80's if she mentions Trump did anything bad.

It's so very obvious how to get MAGA to fall back in line here. Just throw the troglodytes some red meat. They'll devour it like Liver King eating raw testicles. Ghislaine can just say "Bill Clinton fucked kids." Maybe throw in some more enemies. Trump gives her a pardon, says "I promised to release the Epstein list. Promises made, promises kept." He'll claim Ghislaine was misunderstood. She didn't do anything bad. She was fighting the bad guys, actually. Which is the Radical Left.

MAGA completely forgets about Trump's lies surrounding the issue, Trump's own involvement, and focuses on Clinton. The quid pro quo will be ignored. Any liberals who speak up will be met with "You're just a partisan trying to defend Clinton!" TDS! Trump's not involved, Maxwell said so. All you care about is getting Trump!" Etc, Etc.
They already started floating the "double...triple agent" speculation out for consumption again to their herd in preparation.
Then they will also Men in Black mind erase forget that Trump told them it was all a fake and made up story yesterday. But then if she implicates Clinton & clears Trump then all of a sudden its no longer an "Obama Comey" hoax. Then he won't tell them to STFU about i magically

They know hes lying. They're liars too. They dont care. They just want to win at any & all cost. Bottom line. Whatever word hypocrisy salad they can quote as their own mantra, it will do the trick.

Shes also already convicted & the ring leader is dead.....Without giving up the entire client list WITH PROOF how would she deserve ANYTHING.
Keep in mind shes not credible. She literally lied, blanked kiddos, & blackmailed for a living.
What person who stooped to that lifelong lifestyle wouldn't tell 2 white lies about Trump not being implicated and only his political opponents being guilty to go home from prison rich???????

Nothing says honesty like a groomer up against rest of natural life in prison. This is MAGAs new play???? Fits them though.
 
They already started floating the "double...triple agent" speculation out for consumption again to their herd in preparation.
Then they will also Men in Black mind erase forget that Trump told them it was all a fake and made up story yesterday. But then if she implicates Clinton & clears Trump then all of a sudden its no longer an "Obama Comey" hoax. Then he won't tell them to STFU about i magically

They know hes lying. They're liars too. They dont care. They just want to win at any & all cost. Bottom line. Whatever word hypocrisy salad they can quote as their own mantra, it will do the trick.

Shes also already convicted & the ring leader is dead.....Without giving up the entire client list WITH PROOF how would she deserve ANYTHING.
Keep in mind shes not credible. She literally lied, blanked kiddos, & blackmailed for a living.
What person who stooped to that lifelong lifestyle wouldn't tell 2 white lies about Trump not being implicated and only his political opponents being guilty to go home from prison rich???????

Nothing says honesty like a groomer up against rest of natural life in prison. This is MAGAs new play???? Fits them though.
Yep. Trump's aim is not even to fool MAGA, because lies unite rather than divide MAGA. The larger and more obvious the lie, the more Trump's cult gets to demonstrate their loyalty to him by accepting it.

"I have the most loyal people -- did you ever see that? I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK? It's like, incredible."

 
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