International Trump Response To Drone/ UAP Question

[Rational Poster]

Well you said you guys are just making things up. Who are you guys and what posts are you referring to? Because my posts have been completely undecided in every single respect with this phenomenon from the very start.

So you're ducking my position. My question is this what specifically about my position are you mocking? Here is a post that I made before you ever reply to me in this thread but I made it in a different thread.

Go ahead and post some of the things I've said with others which does not include this post because no one else has made it. Otherwise. Don't be such a c*** and just have an intelligent discussion and stop pretending like you know everything or are some kind of authority.
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The US government says radioactive material was lost in New Jersey. It arrived in a crate that was damaged and the material was missing!!

This New Jersey mayor says it's still a major problem that the government is lying to us, but that he thinks that's what the drones are about.

Problems with this notion are that the drones are only flying at night and why would they stop looking during the day?

Problems with this are why would the drones be looking in military airports and shutting them down? And why would the drones shut down an international airport? And why would a drone fly 6 ft under a senator's helicopter causing them to land?...

There's a top secret Congressional meeting taking place about the situation, but the Mayors are not privy

The reported missing radioactive material is fucking part of a PET scanner, not exactly something dangerous like you're being lied to about, and likely has nothing to do with the drone sightings. Technically radioactive, but not dangerously so, and certainly not something that would be detected by an aerial drone. (0.267 mCI is less radiation than you receive getting an xray)

Every single post is people making shit up, nothing has been confirmed.

There's nothing to suggest all the drone sightings are linked, there's nothing to suggest the drones are working together . People are just seeing drones and now more people are looking and seeing more drones.

 

[Anewt]

This is retarded bullshit.

Overactions by civilians and uninformed don't mean shit. A Mayor of New Jersey town might as well be a sherdog poster.

Why didn't the military base just shoot them down? They received orders not to shoot them down.

You can't actually detect radioactive device with a drone from the sky unless it's unshielded and emitting radiation, and if it's unshielded whoever is handling it is going to be dying or dead.

Drones are being sighted all over, because drones are flying all over for legitimate reasons.

THeres a butt tonne of drobes specifically designed for that very role. I

AARM

Real-time location, measurement and mapping of radioactivity from the air with Kromek's drone-based payload

www.kromek.com

Radiation Detection Drone

We detect radiation over large areas using a radiation detector integrated with a drone. Not only is it more efficient, but it completely removes a human operator from the vicinity of radioactive sources, minimising their exposure to radiation. Lysander Miller

www.tram.org.au

Drones Fly Low and Slow for Radiation Detection

PNNL researchers explore the feasibility of using low-flying drones to survey sites for low levels of radiation.

www.pnnl.gov

UAV radiation monitoring and survey - NUVIATech Instruments

Radiation detection and spectroscopy modules for drones. The system offers an excellent performance for mobile radiation survey independant from the drone carrier.

www.nuviatech-instruments.com

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0029549324002103

Countless different companies.

( i dont think its that tho. But the tech is there apparently )

 

[Cool Hand Luke]

I have to say, Im not much of a reddit reader but the threads and posts on there certainly are interesting.

 

[Rational Poster]

THeres a butt tonne of drobes specifically designed for that very role. I

AARM

Real-time location, measurement and mapping of radioactivity from the air with Kromek's drone-based payload

www.kromek.com

Radiation Detection Drone

We detect radiation over large areas using a radiation detector integrated with a drone. Not only is it more efficient, but it completely removes a human operator from the vicinity of radioactive sources, minimising their exposure to radiation. Lysander Miller

www.tram.org.au

Drones Fly Low and Slow for Radiation Detection

PNNL researchers explore the feasibility of using low-flying drones to survey sites for low levels of radiation.

www.pnnl.gov

UAV radiation monitoring and survey - NUVIATech Instruments

Radiation detection and spectroscopy modules for drones. The system offers an excellent performance for mobile radiation survey independant from the drone carrier.

www.nuviatech-instruments.com

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0029549324002103

Countless different companies.

( i dont think its that tho. But the tech is there apparently )

These drones are for dealing with known radioactive devices or working in known radioactive areas.. not detecting them randomly across the entire east coast.

The device would have to be significantly radioactive and completely unshielded to be detected from the height people are spotting these drones at, and we would have a lot more problems if a device like that was in NJ, like people checking into hospitals with ARS.

The first link is a university project where the tape a gieger counter to a drone, lmao.

The second link is a low and slow flying drone, exactly the use case I'm describing.

The 3rd is again, another small area search drone.

Don't gish gallop me if you're not even going to read what you post.

 

[Deleted member 577981]

The reported missing radioactive material is fucking part of a PET scanner, not exactly something dangerous like you're being lied to about, and likely has nothing to do with the drone sightings. Technically radioactive, but not dangerously so, and certainly not something that would be detected by an aerial drone. (0.267 mCI is less radiation than you receive getting an xray)

Every single post is people making shit up, nothing has been confirmed.

There's nothing to suggest all the drone sightings are linked, there's nothing to suggest the drones are working together . People are just seeing drones and now more people are looking and seeing more drones.

That's just your arrogance talking. mostly in the other thread which must be the one you're referring to. Everyone is being pretty level-headed and considering all angles without forming a fixed opinions about anything.

You on the other hand without reading or comprehend what we're saying are arrogantly judging us as if you know everything but you can't even get our stories straight. You still haven't given any examples of what you were castigating originally about me and "others".

The fact is you don't know s*** or any more than anybody else and are in no position to castigate people for having an open mind. You have a very fixed position and you've already decided you know everything about what's happening and everybody is wrong. That's the sign of a stupid man. I on the other hand am staying open to all possibilities without committing to any of them.


You came in hard leading with your chin pretending I've been floating b******* theories when I have consistently and persistently and vocally said that there is no way to know what's happening yet all along.

 

[Rational Poster]

That's just your arrogance talking. mostly in the other thread which must be the one you're referring to. Everyone is being pretty level-headed and considering all angles without forming a fixed opinions about anything.

You on the other hand without reading or comprehend what we're saying are arrogantly judging us as if you know everything but you can't even get our stories straight. You still haven't given any examples of what you were castigating originally about me and "others".

The fact is you don't know s*** or any more than anybody else and are in no position to castigate people for having an open mind. You have a very fixed position and you've already decided you know everything about what's happening and everybody is wrong. That's the sign of a stupid man. I on the other hand am staying open to all possibilities without committing to any of them.


You came in hard leading with your chin pretending I've been floating b******* theories when I have consistently and persistently and vocally said that there is no way to know what's happening yet all along.

I accept your concession.

Keep freaking out over a PET scanner part missing.

 

[Deleted member 577981]

I accept your concession.

Keep freaking out over a PET scanner part missing.

That's just a lie about my position. I don't have a fixed position. You're just now wasting time and polluting the forum with lies.

My position all along has been to take in all the data and not form a conclusion. I could pull up endless post proving that

 

[Rational Poster]

That's just a lie about my position. I don't have a fixed position. You're just now wasting time and polluting the forum with lies.

My position all along has been to take in all the data and not form a conclusion. I could pull up endless post proving that

You're the one who just raised the issue of the "missing radioactive material".

That's what the missing radioactive material is, a part of a PET scanner.

The lie is making that out to be a bigger deal than is is.

Hope this helps.

 

[Deleted member 577981]

You're the one who just raised the issue of the "missing radioactive material".

That's what the missing radioactive material is, a part of a PET scanner.

The lie is making that out to be a bigger deal than is is.

Hope this helps.

That's fine. That's what the mayor said he had just been briefed on. Nok if that's not accurate

But you think I/we have been making spirited conclusions all along according to your own words.


what are they? Can you give some examples?




Are you just afraid of open discussion? Do you have a problem with people thinking openly?

It seems so.

 

[Rational Poster]

That's fine. That's what the mayor said he had just been briefed on. Nok if that's not accurate

But you think I/we have been making spirited conclusions all along according to your own words.


what are they? Can you give some examples?




Are you just afraid of open discussion? Do you have a problem with people thinking openly?

It seems so.

Yes, I don't think most people can handle thinking and the internet at the same time, especially people like you.

 

[Captain Tenneal]

Starting September of 2023 it was made legal by the FAA for drones to fly at night.

The only thing that has changed is people are actively looking.

: You must be a Part 107-licensed drone pilot. As of April 21, 2021, you no longer need to apply for a waiver specifically for night operations, but you must complete an updated initial knowledge test or an online recurrent training that addresses night operations

:If you're planning to fly in controlled airspace (like above cities which often have controlled airspace), you'll need to obtain a night authorization through FAA-approved Low Altitude Authorization and Notification Capability (LAANC) services. This has been available since updates in 2021, allowing near real-time authorizations for night operations in controlled airspace.

:You must maintain your drone below 400 feet unless otherwise authorized, and you need to ensure that you're not flying over people unless your drone qualifies for operations over people under the new rules. Also, follow all other Part 107 rules regarding safety and not interfering with other aircraft

Large Drones: If your drone weighs more than 55 pounds, it does not fall under Part 107. Operating such drones for commercial purposes requires a different set of approvals, typically involving a Part 91 waiver for civil operations or a Section 333 Exemption before Part 107 was enacted for specific operations.

 

[CantCucktheTuck]

The rumor now is that they are American drones that have some kind of way to detect radiation, and they are looking for some missing radioactive waste or something. Who knows if that's true.

 

[Rational Poster]

The rumor now is that they are American drones that have some kind of way to detect radiation, and they are looking for some missing radioactive waste or something. Who knows if that's true.

It's not.

 

[PBAC]

So why be so quiet about it? Why not say what it is and where they come from? They keep saying they are not a threat but how do they know? If they know then they should not keep the public in the dark.

the airline authority literally said they are mis IDs and normal traffic. Probably some drones too welcome to 2025

 

[Captain Tenneal]

Multiple Drone Incursions Confirmed Over Marine Corps Base Camp Pendleton
This is the first Marine Corps facility to acknowledge drone incursions during the recent wave of sightings at bases across the country.

https://www.twz.com/news-features/m...eported-over-marine-corps-base-camp-pendleton

 

[Deleted member 577981]

Yes, I don't think most people can handle thinking and the internet at the same time, especially people like you.

people like me and the "others" you castigated have NOT been forming any definitive conclusions but instead have been thinking about the gov responses and how they do or don't fit that data that we currently have. and its been a lot of fun doing so until someone like you comes along acting all high and mighty, not understanding my/our position and forming conclusions from your own ignorance.

so again give me some examples of all the spurious positions you claim I/we have made.

you won't because you are lying. as an example here is the MOST directly I have spoken about the issue. read it fully.


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Right now it seems like the most logically coherent explanation is that it is our government and they are doing psyops to see how we will react to drones in a perceived drone attack or illegal drone scenario that sometimes breaks laws and causes disruptions to airports and military bases and private helicopters.

As I type that out it kind of strains credulity a little bit but so does every other explanation I've heard so far.


The data that is left out and ignored for this scenario is that there are orbs that appear to be unmanned and not of human origin that are also being cited alongside of these.

Gosh, I started this post to give my opinion of what I think is the most likely, but I can't say it with a straight face..... but every other explanation seems to fall apart also.

Every single explanation that I've heard on the forums minimizes certain pieces of data or ignores them completely while emphasizing others. I've not heard a single coherent explanation given in this thread by me or anyone else that includes all of the data and takes it all seriously.

Honestly, the theory that makes the most sense of all the data if you want to include all of the data is that there are extraterrestrial UFOs (or exotic technologies unconnected to our known technological history) flying all over New Jersey and that the government is either obfuscating that fact by flying tons of drones at the same time or trying to study those with drones at the same time.

No way am I saying that's the case but it does seem to be the one explanation that takes in all of the data without excluding pieces of information that don't fit a certain theory.

 

[Rational Poster]

people like me and the "others" you castigated have NOT been forming and definitive conclusions but instead have been thinking about the gov responses and how they do or don't fit that data that we currently have. and its been a lot of fun doing so until someone like you comes along acting all high and mighty, not understanding my/our position and forming conclusions from your own ignorance.

so again give me some examples of all the spurious positions you claim I/we have made.

you won't because you are lying. as an example here is the MOST directly I have spoken about the issue. read it fully.

Right now it seems like the most logically coherent explanation is that it is our government and they are doing psyops to see how we will react to drones in a perceived drone attack or illegal drone scenario that sometimes breaks laws and causes disruptions to airports and military bases and private helicopters.

As I type that out it kind of strains credulity a little bit but so does every other explanation I've heard so far.


The data that is left out and ignored for this scenario is that there are orbs that appear to be unmanned and not of human origin that are also being cited alongside of these.

Gosh, I started this post to give my opinion of what I think is the most likely, but I can't say it with a straight face..... but every other explanation seems to fall apart also.

Every single explanation that I've heard on the forums minimizes certain pieces of data or ignores them completely while emphasizing others. I've not heard a single coherent explanation given in this thread by me or anyone else that includes all of the data and takes it all seriously.

Honestly, the theory that makes the most sense of all the data if you want to include all of the data is that there are extraterrestrial UFOs (or exotic technologies unconnected to our known technological history) flying all over New Jersey and that the government is either obfuscating that fact by flying tons of drones at the same time or trying to study those with drones at the same time.

No way am I saying that's the case but it does seem to be the one explanation that takes in all of the data without excluding pieces of information that don't fit a certain theory.

people like me and the "others" you castigated have NOT been forming and definitive conclusions but instead have been thinking about the gov responses and how they do or don't fit that data that we currently have. and its been a lot of fun doing so until someone like you comes along acting all high and mighty, not understanding my/our position and forming conclusions from your own ignorance.

so again give me some examples of all the spurious positions you claim I/we have made.

you won't because you are lying. as an example here is the MOST directly I have spoken about the issue. read it fully.

Right now it seems like the most logically coherent explanation is that it is our government and they are doing psyops to see how we will react to drones in a perceived drone attack or illegal drone scenario that sometimes breaks laws and causes disruptions to airports and military bases and private helicopters.

As I type that out it kind of strains credulity a little bit but so does every other explanation I've heard so far.


The data that is left out and ignored for this scenario is that there are orbs that appear to be unmanned and not of human origin that are also being cited alongside of these.

Gosh, I started this post to give my opinion of what I think is the most likely, but I can't say it with a straight face..... but every other explanation seems to fall apart also.

Every single explanation that I've heard on the forums minimizes certain pieces of data or ignores them completely while emphasizing others. I've not heard a single coherent explanation given in this thread by me or anyone else that includes all of the data and takes it all seriously.

Honestly, the theory that makes the most sense of all the data if you want to include all of the data is that there are extraterrestrial UFOs (or exotic technologies unconnected to our known technological history) flying all over New Jersey and that the government is either obfuscating that fact by flying tons of drones at the same time or trying to study those with drones at the same time.

No way am I saying that's the case but it does seem to be the one explanation that takes in all of the data without excluding pieces of information that don't fit a certain theory.

I'm not sure why you would waste your time writing all this bullshit I'm not going to read.

 

[Deleted member 577981]

I'm not sure why you would waste your time writing all this bullshit I'm not going to read.

well you would if you thought you could back up your bullshit. but since you cant, suddenly you lack reading ability.

I get it man. but why not just let people have honest discussions without trying to shut them down and pretend they are doing something they are not doing?

what are you afraid of that would cause you to characterize people in such a way?

 

[Lycandroid]

It's not.

how do you know ?

 

[Rational Poster]

well you would if you thought you could back up your bullshit. but since you cant, suddenly you lack reading ability.

I get it man. but why not just let people have honest discussions without trying to shut them down and pretend they are doing something they are not doing?

what are you afraid of that would cause you do characterize people in such a way?

Because people like you are the exact propaganda vectors ruining the public discourse by entertaining and spreading useless bullshit.

You're literally talking about aliens and expect me to take anything you say seriously. Come on, time to grow up kiddo.