International Trump/Putin Summit

PolishHeadlock said:
Don't ask hard questions.

The @Seano school of journalism
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I can't fathom why people ITT want to pretend an active threat doesn't exist, like a bunch of cringing beta leftys who won't protect themselves, preferring to shut their eyes and yell "La la lalalala, I can't hear you!"
 
Peteyandjia said:
I included North Korea because I thought it was (sad) funny how the reaction to Trump’s ‘Rocket Man’ thing was ‘omg Trump is so mean he’s gonna cause nuclear war’, then when Trump had a historic meeting with NK, it turned into ‘omg how can Trump be so nice to that monster’.

As for Russia and the 2016 election, I really think most of it is people who are so upset that Trump won, that they are willing to go down this insane ‘THE RUSSIANS DID IT’ rabbithole, seemingly endlessly.

I understand you don’t agree with me on this stuff, and that therefore I must be stupid, or a liar, or a bot, or an evil stupid liar bot, who possibly clubs baby seals to death.



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It’s like you get your “knowledge” of what the left are thinking and feeling by watching fox “news”.
 
(CNN)President Donald Trump had a golden opportunity on Monday to stare down Russian President Vladimir Putin and tell him, in no uncertain terms, that Russia's meddling in the 2016 election was totally unacceptable, and that if anything like it continued going forward, there would be major and serious penalties to pay.

Instead, standing next to Putin at the US-Russia summit in Helsinki, Trump did the opposite.
"I hold both countries responsible," Trump said in response to a question from the American press about Russia's interference. "I think that the United States has been foolish. We've all been foolish. We're all to blame." He went on to deride the FBI, special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation, the US intelligence community,
I mean, WHAT? W-H-A-T?

Make no mistake what happened in Finland on Monday: An American President -- contrary to the unanimous findings of his intelligence community and the Republican-led Senate Intelligence Committee -- sought to split blame with a foreign adversary who actively interfered in an American election to help him and hurt his opponent. And he did so while standing next to the Russian President -- a man who heads a country that not only sought to sway the 2016 election through interference but also invaded and annexed Crimea and allegedly poisoned a former Russian spy and his daughter on British soil.
It was the most stunning moment yet of a presidency filled with them. (On a domestic scale, his "both sides" response to the racially motivated violence in Charlottesville was equally stunning, but Monday's summit sets a new bar for the global implications of Trump's actions.) Not only has Trump actively worked to realign geopolitics with his attacks on the European Union and NATO but, as of Monday, he made clear that he trusts Putin at least as much -- and maybe more -- than his own intelligence officials.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/16/politics/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-press-conference/index.html
 
DanMMAleague said:
Everyone knows the Russian impact on the election was close to nothing, convinced a couple of people on the fence subconsciously but that’s it.

Nevertheless facts are facts;

Trump has called the FBI liars.

He has said Putin is more trustworthy.

Even someone completely impartial let alone a patriot would find the hardworking professionals at the FBI more trustworthy than a murderer like Putin.

Do you not get how that is a huge fucking deal?
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The FBI has no one but themselves to blame if they look less than stellar right now.
Being a patriot means just going along with whatever our checkered - historied alphabet agencies tell us?
That sounds like the opposite of patriotism to me.

They would never lie to the American people, would they, no of course not, and they always put our interests first, right?
History tells us otherwise.
 
Pupi said:
What makes you think that I fall under the category of "shit people"?
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I don't want to be all alone so I'll just make something up to have someone to talk to?

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I also thought that was a pre-req to post here....
 
Jack V Savage said:
Sigh. That wasn't the real reaction.



Not sure what you're saying. Are you suggesting that Russia wasn't behind the hacks? That Manafort didn't run Trump's campaign? That the meeting didn't happen? Put aside your partisan preferences, and just look at the evidence. Very obviously, there was a lot of interference from Russia in the process, and many people in the Trump campaign were aware of it (note that he was even warned that they'd try to infiltrate his campaign--back when it was just assumed that any presidential candidate would care about that).



See, this is a dumb personal attack (and again note that you're playing the victim while initiating personal attacks). When you say stuff that is demonstrably false, I say that you're saying stuff that is false. I don't care about agreement or disagreement on matters of opinion, but let's make an effort to get the facts right and to discuss issues honestly.
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What’s your take on Obama saying (before the result) that worrying about the election being tampered with was silly “whining”?
 
So trump went to uk dissed May, said she is doing bad job and Boris would be great PM. Then his people big up Tommy Robinson. Then he goes to Russia and act like a puppy infront of putin, compliments him. But doesnt say a puppy single bad word of Russia and his people dont mention any opposition treated bad. I love how trump fans pretend this is normal
 
OeuvrePressure said:
And as soon as you prove your CT, it will no longer be bullshit.

Until then, your conspiracy theory is bullshit.
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Likewise.
It's been two years and all you got was some email hacks which occurred under Obama, who assured us it couldn't happen.
I'd say there is more evidence for my theory than your Russia collusion nonsense.
 
Pessimystic said:
The FBI has no one but themselves to blame if they look less than stellar right now.
Being a patriot means just going along with whatever our checkered - historied alphabet agencies tell us?
That sounds like the opposite of patriotism to me.

They would never lie to the American people, would they, no of course not, and they always put our interests first, right?
History tells us otherwise.
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What’s in it for the FBI to lie?

There’s certainly a logical explanation as to what’s in it for Trump;

Pee tape jokes distract from the real issues;

Trump is a business who was faced with ruin several times, he has filed for chapter 11 bankruptcy several times.

It was nearly impossible for him to get a business loan in the US plus he was faced with financial hardship.

Not hard to imagine a guy like that would turn to a bunch of nefarious Russian bankers that could still ruin him.

The motive for Putin is obvious.

I fail to see the motive in various intelligence agencies conspiring on this issue? Do you have a credible motive you can put forward?
 
Gregolian said:
Well there's truly hard engaging questions then there's those ones that sound hard but how do you expect to get a legit answer from them?
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You ask it to get their response on the public record. See how they react, what's their body language like.
 
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