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Trump orders evaluation of USPS following his criticism of Amazon

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President Donald Trump issued an executive order on Thursday to set up a task force to study the United States Postal Service and recommend reforms.
The task force will evaluate the operations and finances of the USPS.
Though Trump's executive order does not reference Amazon by name, one analyst told CNBC it was a "shot across the bow" at Jeff Bezos' company.

President Donald Trump on Thursday issued an executive order to set up a task force to study the United States Postal Service and recommend reforms.

That development may represent an escalation in Trump's attacks on Amazon for its dealings with the service, analysts said. The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment sent outside regular office hours.

The task force will evaluate the operations and finances of the USPS, the order said. That includes examining the postal service's role in competitive markets, the state of its business model, workforce, operations, costs and pricing. The task force was ordered to look at the decline in mail volume and how that affects the USPS' self-financing and the agency's monopoly over letter delivery and mailboxes.


"The USPS is on an unsustainable financial path and must be restructured to prevent a taxpayer-funded bailout," Trump said in the executive order.

The USPS has incurred "$65 billion of cumulative losses since the 2007-2009 recession," the document said. It added that the agency had been unable to make payments for its retiree health benefit obligations that "totaled more than $38 billion" at the end of fiscal 2017.

"It shall be the policy of my Administration that the United States postal system operate under a sustainable business model to provide necessary mail services to citizens and businesses, and to compete fairly in commercial markets," Trump wrote.

The task force would submit a report on its findings and recommendations to Trump within 120 days since the issuing of the executive order.

A 'shot across the bow'
Not mentioned in the executive order is the subject for which the USPS has been a topic of Trump's recent public discussion.

In recent weeks, Trump claimed that the service was losing billions due to Amazon. One of Trump's main contentions was that the Jeff Bezos-led retailing juggernaut was ripping off the USPS. Amazon uses the service for much of its last-mile delivery services.

The agency reported a net loss of $2.7 billion in fiscal 2017. The revenue breakdown, however, suggested that shipping and packages were one of the few categories where the USPS made more money year-on-year. The agency, moreover, began losing money in the early 2000s — well before Amazon became the e-commerce giant that it is today.

Though Trump's executive order does not reference Amazon by name, one analyst told CNBC that it was a "shot across the bow" at Jeff Bezos' company.

"Amazon has built its business model on the shoulders of the USPS and Trump is not just talking the talk but now walking the walk with this executive order as a first step, in going after this potential relationship," Daniel Ives, chief strategy officer and head of technology research at GBH Insights, said.

Ives added the jury is still out on what the executive order will result in, but it's clear that Amazon is "in the cross hairs of Trump." While Amazon will continue to use the USPS as a key delivery mechanism, the company's "further investments and infrastructure in last mile delivery might be getting accelerated with Trump on the warpath on this front."

On the other hand, Amazon could simply use the likes of UPS and FedEx for its last-mile delivery, according to Michael Pachter, managing director of equity research at Wedbush Securities.

"USPS will have lower revenues and greater losses," Pachter told CNBC. "The president cannot hurt Amazon by examining the USPS." He explained that while USPS has more competitive rates than UPS and FedEx, they were not dramatically lower.

"If they raise by 10 percent, Amazon may stay with them. However, postal rates are set by an independent commission, and the president's task force has no power to change rates. He is likely not aware of this fact," Pachter said.
 
The president is unaware of the facts? Shocking
 
The post office has been a dysfunctional operation for a long time.

This could be beneficial.
 
Prediction on Trumps plan:
- USPS has a marketing blitz within the DOD for military folks about to get out of the military.
- Streamline hiring from military to post office.
- intertwine patriotism with using the post office.
- Have an exclusive deal with the NFL as the "official carrier of the NFL"


Prediction for Amazon's counter:
- Create a new shipping/delivery company that ships your stuff. "Amazon Delivery" only ships Amazon products.
 
For whom?
I don't know. Hopefully the staff, because it's a shitty place to be employed. The carriers don't have it so bad, but the people at the offices and sort facilities put up with a difficult work environment.
 
I don't know. Hopefully the staff, because it's a shitty place to be employed. The carriers don't have it so bad, but the people at the offices and sort facilities put up with a difficult work environment.
USPS has some of the best benefits in the US govt and it's not like they have absurd hours either.
 
I don't know. Hopefully the staff, because it's a shitty place to be employed. The carriers don't have it so bad, but the people at the offices and sort facilities put up with a difficult work environment.
I dont think he had sort facility employee problems in mind with this investigation.
 
USPS has some of the best benefits in the US govt and it's not like they have absurd hours either.
They have terrible internal politics. Often staffed by retired military, petty power struggles are rampant.
 
The post office has been a dysfunctional operation for a long time.

This could be beneficial.

I get my mail just fine from them. I did hesitate using a Martin Luther King stamp to mail my letter the other day.

Paying a black man less than a dollar to carry a letter across the country isn't right.
 
The post office has been a dysfunctional operation for a long time.

This could be beneficial.

I mean, delivering daily mail isn't a profitable business, but they are mandated to do it.
 
They have terrible internal politics. Often staffed by retired military, petty power struggles are rampant.
Terrible internal politics with petty power struggles is hardly unique to the USPS, and the mind boggles at how you think this would be improved by the Trump administration
 
The post office has been a dysfunctional operation for a long time.

This could be beneficial.

Working conditions aside (I have no idea about them, although I do know that they receive really robust termination and discrimination protection), the USPS is not dysfunctional at all. In fact, it's one of the most well-ran and cost-efficient postal services in the world.

Frankly, I think the USPS is one of the great prides of our country. So I'm not a fan of Trump fucking with it.
 
Also, if this mother fucker tries to privatize the postal service, I'm going to go - wait for it - insane.
 
Working conditions aside (I have no idea about them, although I do know that they receive really robust termination and discrimination protection), the USPS is not dysfunctional at all. In fact, it's one of the most well-ran and cost-efficient postal services in the world.

Frankly, I think the USPS is one of the great prides of our country. So I'm not a fan of Trump fucking with it.

It is absurd to talk shit about the USPS. It employs Americans and gets my mail to me. What is the fucking problem?
 
Terrible internal politics with petty power struggles is hardly unique to the USPS, and the mind boggles at how you think this would be improved by the Trump administration
I don't know that it will. But it might.

A review could instigate some improvements. Or it could be made worse, or be unaffected.

It just isn't an automatically bad thing.

There are bigger issues than this, imo.
Russia prepares for nuclear war while we are distracted with sex scandals, the probing, and the steady flow of buffoonish tweets.

This USPS review is a small thing.

We need to survive the presidential term without getting into a war with Russia or China, so we can start repairing the country and our global reputation. That is the big thing.
 
It is absurd to talk shit about the USPS. It employs Americans and gets my mail to me. What is the fucking problem?
You doing a lot of business by mail these days, buddy?

What we get is mostly direct mail marketing, which is heavily discounted and usually goes directly into recycling. The USPS is expensive for taxpayers and is getting more so. They are in a similarly untenable pension situation that crippled US auto makers, but it's funded by taxes.

Take the name Trump out of this and a review seems like a no brainier.
 
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