Trump is getting railed for mentioning white farmers in SA

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  1. Amerikuracana

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    Multiple news sources.

    We aren't allowed to talk about this, and neither is out president. I like how the land stealing is called "a complicated issue related to inequality etc..."

    Yeah.. I was actually waiting for this. I really was.
     
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    It is related to inequality, however just like in other places in the world, the corrupt individuals that create inequality in the first place are quick to scapegoat a minority over it.

    Communism is a symptom, not a disease.
     
  3. Not A Theist

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    I think it's a bit disingenuous presenting him "getting railed for mentioning" it as if it were happening in a vacuum. A large part of the criticism I see getting leveled at Trump is based on a perceived hypocrisy, not on his concern for what's going on in SA. Simply put, if you have a guy who seems to take a "that's their problem" attitude towards much of the world, and campaigned on an "America takes less action around the world" platform, suddenly become interested when the people who are under attack are white? It looks a little fishy. I'm not judging whether these complaints are fair - I think we should be happy about anyone paying any attention to injustice around the world - but it does look fishy coming from a guy who seems somewhat nonchalant in many cases when the persecuted people aren't white.

    Simply put, Trump caring about persecuted people in SA? Great. Perhaps it would seem a bit more even handed if it happened more often with people who had a different skin tone.
     
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    Not that complex of an issue, at the end of the day.

    One group of people wants to take another group of people's shit.

    The end result is probably going to be bad because it's not the result of naturally flowing commerce between people, but a government intervention. A government, that at this point, doesn't seem too capable of distributing wealth properly, anyway.

    It appears that the media believes this to be a dog whistle for white supremacy or something. All I see is Trump calling out bad governing. You're not doing enough to uplift the black people in South Africa with good economic policies, so you promise to take somebody's shit and give it up for free.

    At some point in time, they'll run out of shit to take. And then the people will see the facade for what it was, just like they did in Zimbabwe.
     
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    Hes not blaming "both sides" in this case right or that its just another shit hole country
     
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    Not sure how to take this. What exactly is he being hypocritical towards? The US was a big supporter in getting rid of apartheid. That has lead directly to what is going on now. Its not really complicated and there really isn't a parallel in the world worth noting on it. The closest would be Israel, but in that case the US has supported the oppressors in Israel. I'm having trouble seeing the angle of supposed hypocrisy.
     
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    He went as far as to bomb another country, when he was given evidence of an alleged gas attack used by the government on its own citizens. And as far as I know, those weren't white people.

    He's not bombing South Africa, he's just calling them out for being hacks. Something a good leader of a strong nation does.
     
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    It's been amazing to me to see the U.S. Mainstream Media not cover this event. I have seen it on Fox News, but when I go to CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, CBS, etc... they have no coverage. It's not happening in the Leftist "reality".

    They are literally slaughtering White farmers on their own land, burning their wives/family to death and the police and authorities refuse to answer the emergency calls. They have a leader actually calling for it.

    I don't care what color anyone is, but this shit is way out of control. Good on Trump for bringing it up.
     
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    By the way, in case people have missed out on it, Zimbabwe is now compensating white farmers who had their lands taken during Mugabe's government, with the new president proclaiming that the country has surpassed the era of seeing divisions of wealth between race lines.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/11/24/emmerson-mnangagwa-set-sworn-new-zimbabwe-president/

    In 2017, new President Emmerson Mnangagwa, promised to pay compensation to the White farmers whose land was seized during the land reform programme on his inaugural speech.[160] Rob Smart became the first White farmer whose land was returned within a month after President Mnangagwa was sworn in to office, he returned to his farm in Manicaland province by military escort.[161] During World Economic Forum 2018 in Davos, Mnangagwa also stated that his new government believes that thinking about racial lines in farming and land ownership is "outdated" and should be "philosophy of the past.[162]

    So, obviously, they've learned from past mistakes in history. The same mistakes that South Africa is currently committing.
     
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    To the left, addressing White's being displaced, beaten, raped, murdered and chased from their homes is considered racist and a symptom of White Supremacy.

    The same lame fucks ripping out their hair over this I can guaranfuckintee had no problem with Obama's (or Eric "my people, hate crime laws weren't meant to protect Whites" Holder, etc) nonchalant attitude towards whites, while invariably showing concern over his own people, i.e, the beer summit, Trayvon being his son, sending emissary's to Mike Browns funeral, etc.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/aug/26/obama-sent-three-representatives-michael-brown-fun/

    Spare us the bullshit.
     
  11. Not A Theist

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    Very true, and perhaps it would be more precise for me to say that much of Trump's rhetoric is directed along lines of colour. Whether it's shithole countries, where he wants to build a wall, how he wants to direct blame at Charlottesville, his relationship with Russia, or talking about global human rights issues, his rhetoric either by design or by chance generally concerned with what happens to white populations.

    Now we have an incident where hundreds of people are dying each year. Not thousands, but hundreds. I, personally, applaud him for paying attention to this. On the other hand, I raise my eyebrow when a few hundred white people have him paying special, public attention, when he seems quite indifferent to far lager non-white populations in great distress in many parts of the world which he doesn't seem to concern himself with overly much. That eyebrow is raised because he already has what seemed a skewed rhetorical tone that emphasizes a bias.

    To be clear, I think that Trump isn't the racist so many make him out to be. Also to be clear, I think he may be more of a racist than his dyed in the wool supporters make him out to be. It would be nice to hear him approach more issues with the attitude of "There is blame on both sides of the issue" and proceed from that point, rather than only trotting it out where it seems pretty one sided.
     
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    President Trump is only hope to stop this anti-white madness. The government of South Africa, a supposedly ally is promoting institutional racism and discrimination.

    This has to stop or Trump should make political and economic sanctions to South Africa.
     
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    Same kind of shit happening all over that continent. Yeah it’s bad, why is SAs few hundred whites deserving of special mention by him?
     
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    Well Trump isn't wrong. It is happening in SA. It happened in Zimbabwe.
     
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    In short.. you're saying.. I agree with Trump but because Trump said it, fuck him.
     
  16. Kindacrazy

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    Because what is happening is happening because of western intervention. The only reason I think its fucked up is because we made this situation by forcing the white south Africans to bare their throats, so now that the black south Africans are preparing to tare it out is partially on us.
     
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    It’s not a genocide but I actually don’t care that Trump said what he said, because of the response of South African leaders saying Trump is trying to increase racial tension, as if Black South African leaders don’t do that all the time.
     
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    I am a little slow today.
    are you implying that the South African government is taking land from people that are non-whites?
     
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    I read that attacks on white famers in SA are the lowest in twenty years..
     
  20. Not A Theist

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    Not at all. If an alcoholic tells me "This is an awesome beer" he might be right, and I might agree with him, but I may not trust the impartiality on the pick. I may say "Dude, you're a drunk - you'd drink grapes fermented in my old sneakers if given the chance."

    What Trump is doing is good here. Again though, his rhetoric tends to operate along coloured lines, so I tend to be concerned about why he's rushing to this human rights violation which, on the global scale, is one of the smaller ones.
     
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