Elections Trump Indicted On 91 Counts

[heloder]

the tyranny under covid didn't even phase them.

The alternative here is that you're an insular little creampuff and you have no concept of what actual tyranny is.

 

[Super_Nintendo]

 

[Bwagster]

The alternative here is that you're an insular little creampuff and you have no concept of what actual tyranny is.

Yeah it's Jan 6th right? The summer of love was just so peaceful.

 

[skold]

I think conservatives are finished.. they have devolved into incoherent screeching children, flinging their poo around (much like their Jan 6 heroes did at the capitol)

 

[Super_Nintendo]

I think conservatives are finished.. they have devolved into incoherent screeching children, flinging their poo around (much like their Jan 6 heroes did at the capitol)

you were once sane and respectable, but this is your party's reaction to the orange man and you're never to be trusted again.

 

[58miles]

I think conservatives are finished.. they have devolved into incoherent screeching children, flinging their poo around (much like their Jan 6 heroes did at the capitol)

The only reason they behave like screeching children flinging their poo around is because the rest of us allow them to get away with it. Wanna stop it? Stop putting up with their bullshit!!

 

[shinkyoku]

the orange rapist won't be running any charity services in the klink. the orange rapist will be the charity service. Deebo will just be passing him around the pod for honeybuns.

No. Secret service will protect him. He will not lose his life-long protection detail just because he goes to jail.
Imagine what a punishment detail that will be! "you and you!, its your turn to stand next to ex-potus prison cell door today!"

 

[curryjunkie]

I sense another meltdown coming..

 

[mixmastermo]

after trump exposed the ugliness of the swamp, how anyone wants to back to a pro-establishment candidate is beyond me.

the tyranny under covid didn't even phase them. they can't think for themselves anymore, all lines of thought have to be filtered and approved by The Party, and anything else is dangerous. they wanna be told what to think, what to say, and in the near future when social credit from china comes to the west, what they can eat, what they can buy, who they can talk to and where they can go and for how long.

voting establishment is voting for the CCP model, and they're too dumb to realize it.

y'all threw out HUNDREDS of YEARS of respect and etiquette to get back at a tanned slimy businessman. think about this.

all it took was orangino's childish antics to unmask these monsters and make them flip the table of western civilization and they've been going after him with bullshit ever since.

if you can't see this and still want establishment your brain's bored out like swiss cheese. anybody would look at the insane reaction to trump and see that something's wrong.

that clown trump showed up and y'all couldn't rush fast enough into becoming bigger clowns. the surprise wasn't trump, it was YOU.

you were once sane and respectable, but this is your party's reaction to the orange man and you're never to be trusted again.

Do you have any actual arguments to make in favor of voting for Donald Trump over anyone else? All I see is you attacking "the other team" and assuming "the other team" is all the same.

FYI I have no team.

 

[dittohead84]

Want some cheese with all that WHINE?

No whining on my part, just stating what's obvious to the majority on these forums. Some of us make or have made the mistake of engaging with people who are too far gone and it's a waste of time.

We need to let you guys figure it out for yourselves, but it's fun to have a go at y'all now and again.

 

[skold]

No whining on my part, just stating what's obvious to the majority on these forums. Some of us make or have made the mistake of engaging with people who are too far gone and it's a waste of time.

We need to let you guys figure it out for yourselves, but it's fun to have a go at y'all now and again.

You mean the delusional cult that would vote for a sex offender, a complete charlatan, a twice indicted, three times arrested conman, who's list of scams, fraud schemes and shady business dealings reads like a cartoon villain bio.. the man who is ONLY running for the sole purpose of granting himself immunity from federal prosecution... Thats not you being "too far gone"?



No amount of ivermectin could cure the worms inside your head buddy, its over for you. A lifetime of being a mindless MAGA drone.

 

[idrankyourbeer]

No. Secret service will protect him. He will not lose his life-long protection detail just because he goes to jail.
Imagine what a punishment detail that will be! "you and you!, its your turn to stand next to ex-potus prison cell door today!"

taxpayer dollars hard at work

 

[fingercuffs]

You mean the delusional cult that would vote for a sex offender, a complete charlatan, a twice indicted, three times arrested conman, who's list of scams, fraud schemes and shady business dealings reads like a cartoon villain bio.. the man who is ONLY running for the sole purpose of granting himself immunity from federal prosecution... Thats not you being "too far gone"?



No amount of ivermectin could cure the worms inside your head buddy, its over for you. A lifetime of being a mindless MAGA drone.

Think you pretty much gave him curtains, friend. Apart from that he's a self admitted bragging sexual predator. Nailed it.

 

[fingercuffs]

Know what is going to happen? The other bald headed guy is going to be his fall guy and do a few years inside for him like Cohen did. He'll pay him a few million, he'll do 10 years for moving the documents around which he's on camera for....job's a good un. He's young enough he'll be out in 7 years and set for life when he gets out.

 

[idrankyourbeer]

You mean the delusional cult that would vote for a sex offender, a complete charlatan, a twice indicted, three times arrested conman, who's list of scams, fraud schemes and shady business dealings reads like a cartoon villain bio.. the man who is ONLY running for the sole purpose of granting himself immunity from federal prosecution...

he is also a rapist, as recently stated by his own judge.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/

 

[fingercuffs]

he is also a rapist, as recently stated by his own judge.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/

I can't read it because I don't subscribe but you'll never convince the Vladimir Glutons...they're too brainwashed.

 

[idrankyourbeer]

I can't read it because I don't subscribe but you'll never convince the Vladimir Glutons...they're too brainwashed.

you just gotta have adblockers and quickly hit the refresh and stop buttons on your browser to read the paywalled articles

Judge clarifies: Yes, Trump was found to have raped E. Jean Carroll

After Donald Trump was found liable for sexually abusing and defaming E. Jean Carroll, his legal team and his defenders lodged a frequent talking point.

Despite Carroll’s claims that Trump had raped her, they noted, the jury stopped short of saying he committed that particular offense. Instead, jurors opted for a second option: sexual abuse.


“This was a rape claim, this was a rape case all along, and the jury rejected that — made other findings,” his lawyer, Joe Tacopina, said outside the courthouse.

A judge has now clarified that this is basically a legal distinction without a real-world difference. He says that what the jury found Trump did was in fact rape, as commonly understood.

The filing from Judge Lewis A. Kaplan came as Trump’s attorneys have sought a new trial and have argued that the jury’s $5 million verdict against Trump in the civil suit was excessive. The reason, they argue, is that sexual abuse could be as limited as the “groping” of a victim’s breasts.


Kaplan roundly rejected Trump’s motion Tuesday, calling that argument “entirely unpersuasive.”

“The finding that Ms. Carroll failed to prove that she was ‘raped’ within the meaning of the New York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to prove that Mr. Trump ‘raped’ her as many people commonly understand the word ‘rape,’ ” Kaplan wrote.

He added: “Indeed, as the evidence at trial recounted below makes clear, the jury found that Mr. Trump in fact did exactly that.”


Kaplan said New York’s legal definition of “rape” is “far narrower” than the word is understood in “common modern parlance.”

The former requires forcible, unconsented-to penetration with one’s penis. But he said that the conduct the jury effectively found Trump liable for — forced digital penetration — meets a more common definition of rape. He cited definitions offered by the American Psychological Association and the Justice Department, which in 2012 expanded its definition of rape to include penetration “with any body part or object.”

Kaplan also flatly rejected the Trump team’s suggestion that the conduct Trump was found liable for might have been as limited as groping of the breasts.

The reason? Trump was not accused of that, so the only alleged offense that would have qualified as “sexual abuse” was forced digital penetration. Beyond that, Trump was accused of putting his mouth on Carroll’s mouth and pulling down her tights, which Kaplan noted were not treated as alleged sexual abuse at trial.

“The jury’s finding of sexual abuse therefore necessarily implies that it found that Mr. Trump forcibly penetrated her vagina,” Kaplan wrote, calling it the “only remaining conclusion.”

Kaplan also noted that the verdict form did not ask the jury to decide exactly what conduct Trump had committed, and that neither prosecutors nor Trump’s lawyers had requested it to do so.


“Mr. Trump’s attempt to minimize the sexual abuse finding as perhaps resting on nothing more than groping of Ms. Carroll’s breasts through her clothing is frivolous,” Kaplan wrote.

He added that the jury clearly found that Trump had “ ‘raped’ her in the sense of that term broader than the New York Penal Law definition.”

The motion was a part of Trump’s efforts to appeal the verdict against him. That’s an effort that will apparently continue as he faces a separate defamation lawsuit from Carroll, dealing with claims Trump made about her allegations while he was still president.

But for now, Trump’s effort to push back has led to a rather remarkable clarification that severely undercuts his main talking point.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/

 

[fingercuffs]

you just gotta have adblockers and quickly hit the refresh and stop buttons on your browser to read the paywalled articles

Judge clarifies: Yes, Trump was found to have raped E. Jean Carroll

After Donald Trump was found liable for sexually abusing and defaming E. Jean Carroll, his legal team and his defenders lodged a frequent talking point.

Despite Carroll’s claims that Trump had raped her, they noted, the jury stopped short of saying he committed that particular offense. Instead, jurors opted for a second option: sexual abuse.


“This was a rape claim, this was a rape case all along, and the jury rejected that — made other findings,” his lawyer, Joe Tacopina, said outside the courthouse.

A judge has now clarified that this is basically a legal distinction without a real-world difference. He says that what the jury found Trump did was in fact rape, as commonly understood.

The filing from Judge Lewis A. Kaplan came as Trump’s attorneys have sought a new trial and have argued that the jury’s $5 million verdict against Trump in the civil suit was excessive. The reason, they argue, is that sexual abuse could be as limited as the “groping” of a victim’s breasts.


Kaplan roundly rejected Trump’s motion Tuesday, calling that argument “entirely unpersuasive.”

“The finding that Ms. Carroll failed to prove that she was ‘raped’ within the meaning of the New York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to prove that Mr. Trump ‘raped’ her as many people commonly understand the word ‘rape,’ ” Kaplan wrote.

He added: “Indeed, as the evidence at trial recounted below makes clear, the jury found that Mr. Trump in fact did exactly that.”


Kaplan said New York’s legal definition of “rape” is “far narrower” than the word is understood in “common modern parlance.”

The former requires forcible, unconsented-to penetration with one’s penis. But he said that the conduct the jury effectively found Trump liable for — forced digital penetration — meets a more common definition of rape. He cited definitions offered by the American Psychological Association and the Justice Department, which in 2012 expanded its definition of rape to include penetration “with any body part or object.”

Kaplan also flatly rejected the Trump team’s suggestion that the conduct Trump was found liable for might have been as limited as groping of the breasts.

The reason? Trump was not accused of that, so the only alleged offense that would have qualified as “sexual abuse” was forced digital penetration. Beyond that, Trump was accused of putting his mouth on Carroll’s mouth and pulling down her tights, which Kaplan noted were not treated as alleged sexual abuse at trial.

“The jury’s finding of sexual abuse therefore necessarily implies that it found that Mr. Trump forcibly penetrated her vagina,” Kaplan wrote, calling it the “only remaining conclusion.”

Kaplan also noted that the verdict form did not ask the jury to decide exactly what conduct Trump had committed, and that neither prosecutors nor Trump’s lawyers had requested it to do so.


“Mr. Trump’s attempt to minimize the sexual abuse finding as perhaps resting on nothing more than groping of Ms. Carroll’s breasts through her clothing is frivolous,” Kaplan wrote.

He added that the jury clearly found that Trump had “ ‘raped’ her in the sense of that term broader than the New York Penal Law definition.”

The motion was a part of Trump’s efforts to appeal the verdict against him. That’s an effort that will apparently continue as he faces a separate defamation lawsuit from Carroll, dealing with claims Trump made about her allegations while he was still president.

But for now, Trump’s effort to push back has led to a rather remarkable clarification that severely undercuts his main talking point.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/

He has bigger fish to fry than contesting her, she should go after him again though for what he said about her in the CNN Town Hall. He committed defamation against her again the day after he was found guilty.

Problem is, his lemmings will still vote for him in an orange jumpsuit and the law says he can be president behind bars.

 

[Andy Capp]

What's funny is that they are the minority in the war room, yet they are like a pack of hyenas. There's probably 2 or 3 of them using a few accounts which makes it even sadder. They actually think their opinions are based on an honest justice system at the moment.

Total losers

LOL cry some more.

 

[fingercuffs]

No whining on my part, just stating what's obvious to the majority on these forums. Some of us make or have made the mistake of engaging with people who are too far gone and it's a waste of time.

We need to let you guys figure it out for yourselves, but it's fun to have a go at y'all now and again.

Talk to me about your CT that there are a handful of posters here sharing accounts...who do you reckon?