Trump idiocy continues. Iran nuclear deal dead, but we are going to build nuclear reactors in Saudi

[VivaRevolution]

Israel presented U.S. with "red lines" for Saudi nuclear deal


Israel has presented the Trump administration with its "red lines" for the nuclear deal the United States is currently negotiating with Saudi Arabia to build reactors in the kingdom.

The big picture: A senior Israeli official told me the Israeli government realized it will not be able to stop the deal — set to be worth billions of dollars for the U.S. — and decided instead to attempt to reach an understanding with the Trump administration regarding the parameters of the deal.

• Last March, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu raised concerns about the deal during a meeting with President Trump and other senior U.S. officials. Netanyahu was concerned such a deal, especially if it also includes a "right" to enrich uranium, will lead to further nuclear proliferation in the Middle East. Trump and his advisers told Netanyahu that, if the U.S. does not sell the Saudis nuclear reactors, other countries like Russia or France will.
• The senior Israeli official told me Netanyahu sent Yuval Steinitz, his energy minister in charge of Israel's atomic energy committee, to Washington two weeks ago to meet with Energy Secretary Rick Perry, who is leading the negotiations with the Saudis over the nuclear deal.

What we're hearing: Steinitz presented Perry and other senior U.S. officials with this set of parameters:

• Israel asked the U.S. for a "no surprises policy" regarding the negotiations with the Saudis to ensure maximum transparency.
• Israel asked to know in advance what nuclear equipment the U.S. would sell the Saudis and asked to be consulted about the planned location of the nuclear reactors the U.S. would build in Saudi Arabia. The senior Israeli official told me the main reason for that demand is nuclear safety.
• Israel demanded that the deal will not give Saudi Arabia the capability or the legitimacy to enrich uranium on its soil. The Saudis want to get American permission to enrich uranium as part of the deal.
• Israel demanded that the U.S. will be the only nation to supply the Saudis with the nuclear fuel for its reactors.
• Israel demanded that the U.S. must remove all used nuclear fuel from Saudi Arabia so that the Saudis will not be able to reprocess it.

What's next: Perry told Steinitz the U.S. will take the Israeli concerns into consideration and will continue to provide updates regarding the negotiations with the Saudis, per the senior Israeli official. The talks are set to continue during Perry's planned October visit to Israel.

https://www.axios.com/israel-united...eal-d010de3e-69ad-4de1-bc5e-0387dd5b91dc.html


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Do the people who support Trump withdrawing from the Iran deal, understand what a butt buddy Trump is to Saudi Arabia, who is the true backbone of every terror group that has attacked the west in the last 25 years?

Saudi Arabia is ISIS, it is AQ, it is Al-Nusra, it is any of another 100 splinter Wahhabi terror groups.

Donald Trump wants to sell them nuclear reactors.

Any of you psycopaths here supports selling ISIS nuclear reactors?

Discuss........

 

[abiG]

Israel has presented the Trump administration with its "red lines" for the nuclear deal the United States is currently negotiating with Saudi Arabia to build reactors in the kingdom.

What could possibly go wrong?

 

[Happy Man]

Fucking Kushner. Get his ass outta there.

I hope you all know this nonsense would not be happening if Bannon was still a main advisor

 

[Rockapotomuss]

More nukes will help stabilize the region. Ever heard of mutually assured destruction?

 

[VivaRevolution]

More nukes will help stabilize the region. Ever heard of mutually assured destruction?

Giving nukes to the guys who teach religion to ISIS is a good idea?

 

[all caps]

Giving nukes to the guys who teach religion to ISIS is a good idea?

Well.. it might accelerate our next extinction event, I suppose. Some people may think that's a good thing?

 

[Seaside]

I think sometimes you forget what Govt you are dealing with. This is not irrational. Neither was other US wars they all have purpose.

It is true. If you dont do it for Saudis they will get china or russia or pakistan or even France or some french companies to do it. I really doubt the US deep state will let saudis get nukes. This is about give a little ajd in return take out iran. Iran has the entire sunni world against it and almost yhe entite arab world. You overrate there ability. It is obvious the US will likely deal witj saudi anf pakistan after Iran threat id addressed.

 

[VivaRevolution]

I think sometimes you forget what Govt you are dealing with. This is not irrational. Neither was other US wars they all have purpose.

It is true. If you dont do it for Saudis they will get china or russia or pakistan or even France or some french companies to do it

That to me is like saying if we don't sell ovens to Nazi's someone else will.

I don't care if someone else sells the Nazi's ovens, as long as one day I don't have to explain to the next generation why we were selling ovens to Nazi's.

There are some things that are so disgusting, that pointing to a hard power calculation, just doesn't hold up to scrutiny, or history's hindsight.

 

[all caps]

That to me is like saying if we don't sell ovens to Nazi's someone else will.

I don't care if someone else sells the Nazi's ovens, as long as one day I don't have to explain to the next generation why we were selling ovens to Nazi's.

There are some things that are so disgusting, that pointing to a hard power calculation, just doesn't hold up to scrutiny, or history's hindsight.

Kinda like selling military weapons to cartels?

 

[Seaside]

That to me is like saying if we don't sell ovens to Nazi's someone else will.

I don't care if someone else sells the Nazi's ovens, as long as one day I don't have to explain to the next generation why we were selling ovens to Nazi's.

There are some things that are so disgusting, that pointing to a hard power calculation, just doesn't hold up to scrutiny, or history's hindsight.

Hey dont blame me. Im just saying it is smart. Rather for time being have the materials and ability to choke them than another actor. This is exactly why Russia "ally" with iran. It isnt because Russia sees that islamic dictatorship as a real friend or ally ot is because to have someone counter the US version of saudi.

Fuck saudi, fuck turkey, fuck iran, fuck pakistan.

 

[VivaRevolution]

Kinda like selling military weapons to cartels?

Yep.

Fast and furious should have gotten more attention.

That would never happen though, because like the NSA, Bush started that program, and Obama showed once again what a fan of Bush's policies he was, by continuing them.

Which side of the partisan propaganda mouth piece media, was going to expose that?

It's just like Benghazi. Both sides hands are dirty, so no one asks the real questions.

 

[VivaRevolution]

Hey dont blame me. Im just saying it is smart. Rather for time being have the materials and ability to choke them than another actor. This is exactly why Russia "ally" with iran. It isnt because Russia sees that islamic dictatorship as a real friend or ally ot is because to have someone counter the US version of saudi.

Fuck saudi, fuck turkey, fuck iran, fuck pakistan.

There comes a time when you just have to let the house of cards collapse.

I don't believe it is in our interests to keep Saudi Arabia as an ally.

I don't care if that means abandoning the global market for oil, or giving up the dollar as the world's reserve currency.

I am not interested in fighting WWIII over Shiite vs Sunni.

 

[GSP_37]

More nukes will help stabilize the region. Ever heard of mutually assured destruction?

Ever heard of religious zealot suicide bombers?

This whole nuke deal is a 4D chess ploy to get nuclear weapons and the end of the world.

 

[Deleted member 457759]

There is a difference between having a nuclear reactor and having a nuclear weapons program. However, I've heard that the Japanese are set up so that they basically have to turn a few nuts and bolts and they good be enriching weapons grade.

I'm not comfortable with selling them this tech either, come on Trump.

 

[tramendous]

I hope both iran and saudi and also turkey builds nukes. Im tired of people destabalizing that place without any exisential fear

 

[Rod1]

An extremely tiny nation in the middle-east basically ordering the US around.

At what point do conspiracy theories stop being conspiracy theories?

 

[Swing]

There is a difference between having a nuclear reactor and having a nuclear weapons program. However, I've heard that the Japanese are set up so that they basically have to turn a few nuts and bolts and they good be enriching weapons grade.

I'm not comfortable with selling them this tech either, come on Trump.

Plutonium is produced in a nuclear reactor. So sure, it's not the same as having a nuclear weapons program, but it's a step in that direction.

 

[Deleted member 457759]

Plutonium is produced in a nuclear reactor. So sure, it's not the same as having a nuclear weapons program, but it's a step in that direction.

Of course it is. But the technology to enrich uranium to weapons grade is a whole other ball game. There is a big difference.

 

[SBJJ]

An extremely tiny nation in the middle-east basically ordering the US around.

At what point do conspiracy theories stop being conspiracy theories?

Lol. Are u talking about Israel

 

[Rod1]

Lol. Are u talking about Israel

Did you read OP?