Crime Trump flouts pardons for CBP chief

[7437]

This should be kind of a clear red line that should never be crossed: openly encouraging illegal behavior while promising impunity. I think conservatives will not have trouble coming up with scenarios where a liberal President could take similar freedoms to subvert the rule of law

But look how much liberals hate it.

 

[ObamaPhoneLady]

Obama didn't have to promise it. It was common knowledge he wouldn't let anyone on his team get nailed for their numerous crimes (or his.)

 

[Jack V Savage]

I dont support Trump, but how do we know this isnt another bs story from an "anonymous" sourse?

What does it matter anyway? We all know how this story goes. You'll find out it is true and defend him anyway. Better to just start with the defense.

 

[Farmer Br0wn]

This...should be a bannable offense at this point.

Rickson by Armbar for retards.

This is it by Armbar!

Meme Inception!

 

[waiguoren]

I dont support Trump, but how do we know this isnt another bs story from an "anonymous" sourse?

We don't. It's never stopped people from bitching before, though.

Pretty interesting if true. Obviously the president is completely within his authority to do this, as the pardon power is unlimited. The framers designed it that way.

The framers foresaw this type of behavior but figured that the wrath of voters was a sufficient check in the event that it got out of control. The most disgusting type of pardon is that of the Marc Rich-type (a lame duck pardoning a benefactor). I'd support a constitutional amendment to limit pardons to a president's first term to prevent against that.

 

[Carl Sonnen]

 

[PainIsLIfe]

What does it matter anyway? We all know how this story goes. You'll find out it is true and defend him anyway. Better to just start with the defense.

LOL, I don't defend Trump except from bs talking point (white supremacist, etc). I think the man isn't worthy of the office, but people like you will probably ensure his reelection.

 

[Jack V Savage]

LOL, I don't defend Trump except from bs talking point (white supremacist, etc). I think the man isn't worthy of the office, but people like you will probably ensure his reelection.

People like me who weren't stupid enough to vote for him aren't electing him. People like you who are willing to make fools of yourself defending him are.

 

[waiguoren]

LOL, I don't defend Trump except from bs talking point (white supremacist, etc). I think the man isn't worthy of the office, but people like you will probably ensure his reelection.

@Jack V Savage seems to have an issue understanding that a person defending Trump against dumb yet popular attacks does not necessarily mean that the person wishes Trump to be president.

 

[Seano]

This...should be a bannable offense at this point.

Rickson by Armbar for retards.

It only seems so overused because libs always think everything IS it. Everytime you've read that, it wasn't it. Now try to figure how many times you've heard it.

 

[PainIsLIfe]

People like me who weren't stupid enough to vote for him aren't electing him. People like you who are willing to make fools of yourself defending him are.

Well I didnt vote for him and he won so I'm not sure how my calling bs on what has turned out to be bs has any bearing on his reelection.

Although I'm fairly confident that between post birth abortion, trans athletes, reparations, and the continued calls to find collusion that isnt to be found will help him greatly in 2020.

 

[andnowweknow]

It only seems so overused because libs always think everything IS it. Everytime you've read that, it wasn't it. Now try to figure how many times you've heard it.

Translation: it's the libs fault I stick it to them brainlessly.

 

[PainIsLIfe]

@Jack V Savage seems to have an issue understanding that a person defending Trump against dumb yet popular attacks does not necessarily mean that the person wishes Trump to be president.

Although he'd be my last choice for a candidate, the dems have gone full retard and left me no choice in my vote for 2020.

 

[Seano]

Translation: it's the libs fault I stick it to them brainlessly.

Pretty much. Its no one's fault but their own that it takes so little effort.

 

[andnowweknow]

@Jack V Savage seems to have an issue understanding that a person defending Trump against dumb yet popular attacks does not necessarily mean that the person wishes Trump to be president.

Talk about cowardice, defend nearly all he does with enough shame left over to allow yourself to pretend not to support the embarrassment to humanity that he is.

 

[Seano]

Talk about cowardice, defend nearly all he does with enough shame left over to allow yourself to pretend not to support the embarrassment to humanity that he is.

Cowardice because he doesn't blindly align himself with stupidity?

 

[JamesRussler]

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...ly-blocking-asylum-seekers-would-bring-pardon

Now, we don't know if this is true, but I have a question for the more conservative leaning people who support Trump in here: Is it ok to you if the President suborns illegal activity in his officials with the promise of a pardon? Is it not extremely worrying to you if he performed something like that, or told CBP agents not to follow the law, only for the CBP head to have to rebuke the president's suggestion after the president left, indicating that if agents broke the law, they would face personal liability?

I am very curious as to where some of your lines are crossed when it comes to him.

I don’t condone anyone breaking the law. Pardoning unlawful behavior is the President’s prerogative, but it should be done sparingly. It should be for public servants who have acted in good faith, but nevertheless ran afoul of the law unintentionally.

On the illegal immigration question, the law is surprisingly unclear. The current level of arrivals arguably amount to an invasion, and local efforts to thwart enforcement arguably amount to insurrection. The President can act unilaterally to repel invasion or put down insurrection, even though liberal open borders advocates would vehemently argue that these matters are strictly a matter of domestic policy. For that reason, Trump’s agents will meet with stiff legal challenges as they attempt to keep our country safe.

Because so many liberal activists and corrupt bureaucrats are keen on criminalizing political differences, I believe the pardon power is an appropriate safeguard. I fully expect the Left to cry about it.

 

[andnowweknow]

Cowardice because he doesn't blindly align himself with stupidity?

The silence on the right regarding the overwhelming stupidity of Trump is deafening.

 

[andnowweknow]

Pretty much. Its no one's fault but their own that it takes so little effort.

Yeah, that's why it's brainless for sure. Ever notice how Trump and literally all his policies have zero nuance to them? There is an appeal to the illusion of a binary world, thus Donald Trump still has millions of people making excuses for his unequivocally awful general behavior. He's an authoritarian leader and basically a restrained dictator...the fact the Republicans know this and dont seem to care is alarming.

 

[hillelslovak87]

The silence on the right regarding the overwhelming stupidity of Trump is deafening.

So, you don't care if the president directly tells government employees to break the law, and speaks of pardons for breaking the law?