Trump expert on violence: beware of evildoers; lethal force leads to the best sex

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https://www.rawstory.com/2018/03/tr...ice-trainer-says-lethal-force-leads-best-sex/

Trump’s video game violence panel features police trainer who says lethal force leads to ‘the best sex


President Donald Trump is hosting a discussion on violence in video games on Thursday — and it features a controversial police trainer who encourages cops to be more willing to use lethal force.

The Washington Post’s Radley Balko, who has written extensively on Grossman’s courses in the past, writes on Twitter that Grossman not only tells cops they should employ more lethal force, he also tells them that “after killing a man, they’ll have the best sex of their lives.”



In a Washington Post article on Grossman published last year, Balko noted that Grossman believes that officers ought to think of themselves more as warriors than as public servants — and he wants them to be always on edge about evil doers who are out to kill them.

“We fight violence,” Grossman tells students, according to a report on a class published by Mother Jones. “What do we fight it with? Superior violence. Righteous violence.”

The reason that Grossman is attending a panel on violence in video games is that he believes these games are literally training young people to become mass killers.

“From a military and law enforcement perspective, violent video games are ‘murder simulators’ that train kids to kill,” Grossman wrote in a 2013 article published by Variety. “They act just like police and military simulators, providing conditioned responses, killing skills and desensitization, except they are inflicted on children without the discipline of military and police training.”

And as Balko notes, Grossman believes so strongly in linking video games with mass shootings that he thinks people who deny the link are on par with Holocaust deniers.



I know Raw Story isn't the best source, but they're linking to several sources and aggregating, which is easier than me doing it. I am including the tweets from journalists as well.

Anyways, this guy is part of Trump's panel trying to convince America we have a video game problem and not a gun problem.
 
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do they just let any old schmuck become a cop?
 
Are they really arguing the video game violence angle?
 
Only the best people
 
It's mind boggling that guns which are, by definition, part of any shooting are being held less responsible for violence by some people than video games, which don't involve any actual violence.
 
So an AMERICAN police trainer Is telling his students they should be more willing to kill someone because they’ll have better sex afterwards.


Good grief people wonder why the police here are fucking trigger happy morons. Someone please help me wrap my head around this
 
He claims denying that video games incite violence is on the same moral level as holocaust denial.

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We have a video game problem and an SSRI problem along with other so called anti-psychotic medications. Why are all these mass shooters linked to these medications, but the media focuses only on their guns?

36 School shooters/school related violence committed by those under the influence of psychiatric drugs
Umm, do you think it's possible that you might be confusing correlation with causation? i.e. it isn't that psych meds cause violence, but rather people on psyche meds are more likely to be violent.
 
"Lethal force leads to the best sex" sounds like a Trump tweet.

"Only the best bullets lead to the best sex. Believe me."
 
So an AMERICAN police trainer Is telling his students they should be more willing to kill someone because they’ll have better sex afterwards.
When they say that he just wanted to get back home to his wife, now we know the reason why
 
When they say that he just wanted to get back home to his wife, now we know the reason why


Ahahaha. Now I know that cops have raging boners after they kill someone and they need to take care of business
 
Umm, do you think it's possible that you might be confusing correlation with causation? i.e. it isn't that psych meds cause violence, but rather people on psyche meds are more likely to be violent.

Thank you for pointing this out so I don't have to. I mean fucking derpy derp derp.
 
Umm, do you think it's possible that you might be confusing correlation with causation? i.e. it isn't that psych meds cause violence, but rather people on psyche meds are more likely to be violent.
At first I considered this, obviously. But now we know too much.

The manufacturer of the nation's second-best-selling anti-depressant must pay $8 million to the relatives of a man who killed himself and three others after taking the drug Paxil, jurors said.
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=117410&page=1

(Reuters) - GlaxoSmithKline(GSK.L) must pay $3 million to a woman who sued the drug company over the death of her husband, a lawyer who committed suicide after taking a generic version of the antidepressant Paxil, a U.S. jury said on Thursday....

GSK had evidence paroxetine increases the risk of suicide by older users by as much as 670 percent...

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-paxil-suicide-lawsuit-u-s-jury-idUSKBN17M2SH

I don't think these drugs do what they are claimed to do and way too often they do the opposite.

No. There is no SSRI problem in these shootings according to science. The NRA says they're a problem.
Hmmmm? Then what about these folks with no connection to the NRA:
SSRI Stories is a collection of over 6,000 stories that have appeared in the media (newspapers, TV, scientific journals) in which prescription drugs were mentioned and in which the drugs may be linked to a variety of adverse outcomes including violence.
https://ssristories.org/

And why would Hannity of Fox news of all damned outlets, cut off this person for the mere suggestion:



probably because psychotic people do psychotic things
And it is long past to time to take a serious look at these drugs and if they are actually exacerbating the problem.
 
At first I considered this, obviously. But now we know too much.

The manufacturer of the nation's second-best-selling anti-depressant must pay $8 million to the relatives of a man who killed himself and three others after taking the drug Paxil, jurors said.
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=117410&page=1

(Reuters) - GlaxoSmithKline(GSK.L) must pay $3 million to a woman who sued the drug company over the death of her husband, a lawyer who committed suicide after taking a generic version of the antidepressant Paxil, a U.S. jury said on Thursday....

GSK had evidence paroxetine increases the risk of suicide by older users by as much as 670 percent...

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-paxil-suicide-lawsuit-u-s-jury-idUSKBN17M2SH

I don't think these drugs do what they are claimed to do and way too often they do the opposite.


Hmmmm? Then what about these folks with no connection to the NRA:
SSRI Stories is a collection of over 6,000 stories that have appeared in the media (newspapers, TV, scientific journals) in which prescription drugs were mentioned and in which the drugs may be linked to a variety of adverse outcomes including violence.
https://ssristories.org/

And why would Hannity of Fox news of all damned outlets, cut off this person for the mere suggestion:




And it is long past to time to take a serious look at these drugs and if they are actually exacerbating the problem.



Clearly you don't know what science is (or the difference between mass murder and suicide).

http://www.newsweek.com/bbc-panorama-antidepressants-murder-james-holmes-642068

Carmine Pariante, Professor of Biological Psychiatry, King’s College London’s Institute of Psychiatry, Psychology & Neuroscience, also condemned the premise of the documentary. “There is no good evidence that antidepressants increase the risk of violent behaviour, and the extremely rare (and tragic) cases that are cited in support of this theory could be explained by chance: antidepressants are prescribed relatively widely, and so by chance someone on antidepressants will commit a violent act. Moreover, people on antidepressants may be suffering from some forms of mental disorder or distress that may, albeit very occasionally, increase the risk of reacting impulsively or violently.”

He said that with 11 percent of the U.S population currently taking antidepressants, “we would have clearly seen an increased risk of violence if there was one.”

“In contrast, we know very well that every time an alarm reduces the rates of prescription for antidepressants, suicide rates increase, including in adolescent and young adults. The risk of suicide attempt in patients treated with the commonly use SSRI antidepressants is approximately one-third that of patients who are not treated with an SSRI. And this is without even considering the life-saving effects that these medications have on patients’ recovery from their mental health problems.”

Allan Young, Professor of Mood Disorders, King’s College London’s Institute of Psychiatry, Psychology & Neuroscience, and Seena Fazel, Professor of Forensic Psychiatry at the University of Oxford, both pointed to the lack of evidence showing a link between antidepressant use and violence.

Young said they must be extremely careful to make sure any claims made are backed up by strong evidence, and if serious side effects are found, then they “should about them” because they want to help patients.

"If there was good evidence of antidepressants turning people into murderers then we would certainly be looking into that,” he said. “It is an extremely strong claim and therefore needs to be backed by strong evidence. So many people take antidepressants that we will always be able to find some coincidences, but it takes a lot more evidence to mean it's more than that."
 
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