Economy Trump claims United States was the strongest from the years 1870-1913

[Hellowhosthat]

The Second Industrial Revolution fueled Carnegie’s steel empire, drove territorial and railroad expansion, and pushed average annual GDP growth to around 4-5%. The U.S. became an industrial powerhouse. However, Trump glossed over a few downsides: wages so low you’d starve on them, rampant child labor that forced kids into coal mines and textile mills, and factories that were outright death traps. Lose an arm to a machine? Here’s your pink slip. In 1890 alone, 35,000 workers died on the job, crushed, burned, or mangled beyond recognition. Lunch might consist of meat laced with formaldehyde. Life expectancy for the average American hovered around 42. Then came the Panic of 1893, which pushed unemployment to 20%, leaving millions in breadlines.

Well the important thing is that it was at it's best for guys like him. What's a few mangled bodies if it puts more money in the accounts of the rich?

 

[italiamusica]

Yea it probably has nothing to do with the nuclear family aspect

 

[ShadowRun]

UNITY

 

[Takes Two To Tango]

According to this, he's probably right.

 

[Lycandroid]

thats why republicans and the trump admin are doing their damnedest to bring back child labor and gut all regulations in this country along with unions so that they can bring back the good ole days. might as well bring in just as much Christian fascism as you can too... especially if you can gut all government programs so that the only charity you can find is with churches that you may not ascribe to and that, if the people around trump are running them, are not really churches at all but centers for fascism and white nationalism.

there are very few groups I would detest running this country more than white christian nationalist/fascist hypocrites.

if it werent for christian nationalists the country/you likely wouldn't exist.

 

[DEVILsSON]

I was bracing myself for Trump to say it's because it was prior to the creation of Federal Reserve. There are some kooks who peddle in conspiracy theories to do with it and I was fully expecting Trump to be on board with them...

 

[Deorum]

According to this, he's probably right.

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It produced the most revered American of the last 225 years. And the thread starter's own favorite POTUS of all-time.

 

[Gas121]

This guy needs to lay off the Greatness pill.

 

[terrapin]

if it werent for christian nationalists the country/you likely wouldn't exist.

have you got a coherent paragraph you could puke out while you defend losers and villains?

 

[HOLA]

It produced the most revered American of the last 225 years. And the thread starter's own favorite POTUS of all-time.

Yes, because Teddy played a big part in ending the abuses of the age, and leading us into the progressive era. The start of the progressive era overlaps with the end of the gilded age.

His platform in 1912, when he ran as a Progressive, called for inheritance taxes, socialized insurance, 8 hour work days, workers comp, limits to campaign contributions, etc.

He also called for tariff revision, incidentally, pointing out they didn't work and made Americans needlessly pay extra for the necessities of life.

 

[Deorum]

Yes, because Teddy played a big part in ending the abuses of the age, and leading us into the progressive era. The start of the progressive era overlaps with the end of the gilded age.

He was an extraordinary man and damn near flawless POTUS.

TR launched dozens of anti-trust lawsuits against corporate monopolies that included the dissolution of J.P. Morgan's Northern Securities Corporation and John D. Rockefeller's Standard Oil. He pushed for and enacted the first significant consumer protection laws in US history (PFDA, FMIA). He single handedly protected over 230 million acres of publicly owned wilderness as a gift to the American people and all future generations, in addition to establishing the National Wildlife Refuge System and US Forest Service. He brokered the Portsmouth Treaty to end the Russo-Japanese war and won the Nobel peace prize for it, organized the Algeciras Conference to resolve tensions between Germany and France over Morocco that very well could've started World War 1 a decade earlier, and initiated the construction of the Panama Canal to take both American geopolitical power and global commerce to another level by uniting trade between the Pacific and Atlantic Oceans.



The policies and spirit of the Roosevelt Administration were on grand display in March 1907. The President, with the Chief Forester Gifford Pinchot at his side, had enraged politicians the previous five years by unilaterally proclaiming more than a hundred national forests. Now Congress was about to bring him up short by shutting down his power under the once-minor 1891 provision. The House and Senate approved a measure that would block him from declaring new national forests. Roosevelt’s opponents strategically embedded the measure in the general appropriations bill, which the President would have no choice but to approve.

But an event intervened. For some reason, the appropriations bill found its way to the bottom of TR’s “bills to sign” pile. This may have been related to the activities of the full, frenzied, and celebratory previous week, when Roosevelt, Pinchot, and his men laid out maps of western states on the floor and drew boundary lines around national forest candidates. The President himself had gotten down on his hands and knees to check out the topography.

So, when it came to signing time, before he could get to the appropriations bill at the bottom of the pile, he just happened to sign a raft of orders, 38 in all, creating still more national forests totaling no less than 16 million acres—one-quarter the size of Colorado. Only then did the president turn to approving the law that abrogated his authority in the six listed states. For TR, who so loved to inject drama—and joy—into the making of public policy, signing the “Midnight Reserves” was one of his most cherished moments. He laughed that his opponents “turned handsprings in their wrath.” “Oh,” he exulted, “this is bully!”



Fucking Hero.

His platform in 1912, when he ran as a Progressive, called for inheritance taxes, socialized insurance, 8 hour work days, workers comp, limits to campaign contributions, etc.

He also called for tariff revision, incidentally, pointing out they didn't work and made Americans needlessly pay extra for the necessities of life.

 

[Neph]

I'm probably being a bit harsh, but this is a fucking stupid take. People have already posted plenty, about work conditions and hours, medicine, education and rights, but here's some more

Life expectancy has grown from under 40 in 1860 to just under 80 in 2020.

Infant mortality in those years were about one in three. Now it's less than 10 per thousand.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

if it werent for christian nationalists the country/you likely wouldn't exist.

If it wasn't for the Brits it wouldn't exist either. Want to give it back to us?

 

[IanEdwards]

fantastic to see the not-a-cult guys defend each progressively-more ignorant and insane takes by the not-a-cult leader

 

[Michaelangelo]

Sandwiched between the Civil War and WW1

Both of which Trump would have dodged conscription

 

[avenue94]

Sandwiched between the Civil War and WW1

Both of which Trump would have dodged conscription

Trumpers would have whole heartedly supported rich Confederates paying for someone to fill their spot in the army and buying commissions lol.

 

[Lycandroid]

have you got a coherent paragraph you could puke out while you defend losers and villains?

I don't think christian nationalist aren't losers and villains. If you knew anything about world history you would know that you owe your existence in a functioning moral society to them.

Every moralistic belief ingrained into society you can thank them for.

 

[terrapin]

I don't think christian nationalist aren't losers and villains. If you knew anything about world history you would know that you owe your existence in a functioning moral society to them.

Every moralistic belief ingrained into society you can thank them for.

You have to go a little deeper than that if you think you're actually making a point.

 

[Gutter Chris]

Well I mean it's a little suspicious that conservatives are constantly day dreaming of returning America to the "good ole days" where women couldn't divorce and it was socially acceptable to throw rocks at gay people.

News flash, the past sucked.

Divorce for either gender should be much harder to get and should have a stigma about it. But fuck my family I'm unhappy and have to go on my healing journey and rediscover myself ! And no I'm not saying you should have to stay with an abuser just that I think no fault is bad for society.

I get your point. But I'm not sure everything is better now than it was.

 

[Lycandroid]

You have to go a little deeper than that if you think you're actually making a point.

No I don't, it's your problem you don't have a basic understanding of history not mine.