Elections Trudeau Visits Trump

PEB said:
I guess people would have leaders not talk over problems? That being said Trudeau facing problems within his own government they want to put tariffs on natural gas an oil shipped to US. I have heard that could result in upwards of 30 percent increase in natural gas costs don't know about oil.
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That's just what negotiation looks like when one side has all the leverage.

Trudeau has no hand here. He has to just take it up the ass (not that he minds that).
 
Cajun said:
I had no idea he was this bad off politically. What are the major issues he's lost support on? @Andy Capp weigh in as well?
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The carbon tax essentially destroyed the country just like anyone with a brain said it would.

Our natural gas bills has more than DOUBLED and the way Trudeau's legislation works, it's just going to keep going up and up until people, I dunno, figure out how to heat their houses with hopes and dreams?

Gasoline in Alberta was 89 cents a liter. Now it's $1.50.

There is no plan. Trudeau offered no alternative. He just said 'no more oil and gas' and stuck his fingers in his ears when anyone said 'but what about winter' or 'but what about transportation.'

Electric cars aren't an option here. It's too cold.

Canadians voted for a guy with no qualifications because he was handsome and had the right last name and believe or not, that didn't work out so good.

Polievre says he will scrap the carbon tax. That would be amazing, but we'll see.
 
Cajun said:
I had no idea he was this bad off politically. What are the major issues he's lost support on? @Andy Capp weigh in as well?
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Scandals have plagued his administration. If you want a good read, Google the SNC Lavalin scandal. IMO, that one scandal alone should have ended his administration.

Inflation, cost of living and the housing crisis has hurt him badly. Immigration and allowing obscene numbers of temporary foriegn workers and (fake) student visa holders into the country and having no plan or ability to get rid of them.

But on top of all that, voter fatigue. Libs have been in power for 10 years and historical trends show Canadians don't want one party in power for any longer than that.
 
ColemanwastheGOAT said:
The carbon tax essentially destroyed the country just like anyone with a brain said it would.

Our natural gas bills has more than DOUBLED and the way Trudeau's legislation works, it's just going to keep going up and up until people, I dunno, figure out how to heat their houses with hopes and dreams?

Gasoline in Alberta was 89 cents a liter. Now it's $1.50.

There is no plan. Trudeau offered no alternative. He just said 'no more oil and gas' and stuck his fingers in his ears when anyone said 'but what about winter' or 'but what about transportation.'

Electric cars aren't an option here. It's too cold.

Canadians voted for a guy with no qualifications because he was handsome and had the right last name and believe or not, that didn't work out so good.

Polievre says he will scrap the carbon tax. That would be amazing, but we'll see.
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Yeah hurting peeps pockets will do it. Carvilles comment "it's the economy stupid" comes to mind. No politician will survive that kind of thing. Thanks for the feedback.
 
ImCertainOfCirkunov said:
Scandals have plagued his administration. If you want a good read, Google the SNC Lavalin scandal. IMO, that one scandal alone should have ended his administration.

Inflation, cost of living and the housing crisis has hurt him badly. Immigration and allowing obscene numbers of temporary foriegn workers and (fake) student visa holders into the country and having no plan or ability to get rid of them.

But on top of all that, voter fatigue. Libs have been in power for 10 years and historical trends show Canadians don't want one party in power for any longer than that.
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No doubt. Will look up SNC. I am familiar with the company. I also don't like one side always in power. It never ends well. I say it often that I enjoy the pendulum swinging because it keeps each side in check. Thanks for the feedback.
 
Cajun said:
Yeah hurting peeps pockets will do it. Carvilles comment "it's the economy stupid" comes to mind. No politician will survive that kind of thing. Thanks for the feedback.
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It's not about 'hurting people's pockets'. He is trying to destroy the provinces that don't vote for him.

It gets to -40 here in the winter and he made it so people couldn't afford to heat their homes.

He didn't apply the carbon tax to home heating oil because that's what people in Ontario use. He exempted that for literally no reason other than the fact he needed Ontario votes.

It was never about the environment it was about crushing anyone who won't vote for him.

He's not just a uniquely unqualified rich kid, he's actually an evil cunt. He made little old ladies have to choose between heating their apartments or feeding themselves. Then he offered them assisted suicide.
 
ColemanwastheGOAT said:
It's not about 'hurting people's pockets'. He is trying to destroy the provinces that don't vote for him.

It gets to -40 here in the winter and he made it so people couldn't afford to heat their homes.

He didn't apply the carbon tax to home heating oil because that's what people in Ontario use. He exempted that for literally no reason other than the fact he needed Ontario votes.

It was never about the environment it was about crushing anyone who won't vote for him.

He's not just a uniquely unqualified rich kid, he's actually an evil cunt. He made little old ladies have to choose between heating their apartments or feeding themselves. Then he offered them assisted suicide.
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Woah, that sounds terrible if true. No wonder his popularity plummeted if that's the case. Would enjoy hearing from those that still support him. I'm sure there will be an election thread when it gets closer. Should be interesting.
 
ImCertainOfCirkunov said:
While the GTA will stay fairly red, the rest of the province has developed a very anti-Trudeau sentiment. I've spent time in K&W, Hamilton, Barrie and now live in Windsor, and in all of those places I've met 2-3 people who support Trudeau and seemingly hundreds who are rabbidly anti-Trudeau. And I'm not just talking about blue collar folk, engineers working at Ford and GM, lawyers, insurance professionals (to name a few) all want this guy gone with a passion.
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Can confirm. I live in the GTA and have a cottage up north, it's a whole different world out there. Always has been that way but I've never seen it as extreme as it is now, I'd probably get my cottage vandalized by my neighbours if I put up a Trudeau sign on the lawn, and you know what? I agree with them, Trudeau deserves every bit of hate he gets and then some. I'm starting to hear some rumblings even in the GTA, I think there's actually a lot of people here who hate him too but are afraid to speak out because they don't want to get cancelled. Even my mom who usually votes for the NDP is voting Conservative next year to help get Trudeau the fuck out of here.
 
ImCertainOfCirkunov said:
Scandals have plagued his administration. If you want a good read, Google the SNC Lavalin scandal. IMO, that one scandal alone should have ended his administration.

Inflation, cost of living and the housing crisis has hurt him badly. Immigration and allowing obscene numbers of temporary foriegn workers and (fake) student visa holders into the country and having no plan or ability to get rid of them.

But on top of all that, voter fatigue. Libs have been in power for 10 years and historical trends show Canadians don't want one party in power for any longer than that.
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He's also not very intelligent. That recent condescending lecture about over-immigration was mind boggling.
 
aerius said:
Can confirm. I live in the GTA and have a cottage up north, it's a whole different world out there. Always has been that way but I've never seen it as extreme as it is now, I'd probably get my cottage vandalized by my neighbours if I put up a Trudeau sign on the lawn, and you know what? I agree with them, Trudeau deserves every bit of hate he gets and then some. I'm starting to hear some rumblings even in the GTA, I think there's actually a lot of people here who hate him too but are afraid to speak out because they don't want to get cancelled. Even my mom who usually votes for the NDP is voting Conservative next year to help get Trudeau the fuck out of here.
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I suspect much of Liberal support comes from older people that think of the Liberal party as the party of national unity and shared interests. Maybe they remember John Turner and Chretien. Younger voters won't have any clue of who those past Liberal leaders were. Anyone under 30 was at best 8 years old when Chretien was PM of Canada.

To make things worse, the Liberals have fashioned themselves in the image of the US's DNC and my guess is that the same thing is going to happen to them in next year's federal elections. No one in the Liberal party hierarchy has any confidence in JT and no one wants to take over as leader going into an election where they're likely to get crushed. The idea of Chrystia Freeland leading the Liberal party to a victory in next year's federal election is simply absurd. Of course anything could happen between now and Oct 20, 2025, but it's just so hard to believe that Liberals will come even close to winning, or that they will have a leader with any significant public support.
 
Cajun said:
I had no idea he was this bad off politically. What are the major issues he's lost support on? @Andy Capp weigh in as well?
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He's got incumbent-itis just like pretty much every Western incumbent that has gone to the polls this year. Inflation was bad just like in the US. That's pretty much it as far as I am concerned--at least in terms of how it applies to the Liberal Party as a whole. Trudeau as an individual... well, that's a different story. He's caused a lot of animosity toward him because he thinks he can act like his father, Pierre, but junior doesn't have his charisma.

It's funny though that people talk about how bad he is when he's won 3 elections--albeit with a minority government. With that record it's kind of understandable that he believes with nearly a year to go between now and the next election (presuming they're not crazy enough to call one before that) to rehabilitate his image he can win. Even so, I think he should have bowed out quite awhile ago. So, I'd still vote Liberal regardless if it would keep Pierre Poilievre out of power, but if even I think he should go, though my reasons may differ, it must be a pretty common sentiment among party faithful country-wide.

The province where I live is solidly Liberal (federally--provincially it's a different story) but our member of parliament has been publicly calling for a leadership convention for awhile now.

tl;dr people are mainly just sick of his face, I think.
 
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therealdope said:
I'm sure it's just his face.

Average Canadian: "Hey, I'm tired of JT's face. Let me see who else I can vote for".
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It’s definitely not because of a rapidly decreasing GDP per capita.

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therealdope said:
I suspect much of Liberal support comes from older people that think of the Liberal party as the party of national unity and shared interests. Maybe they remember John Turner and Chretien. Younger voters won't have any clue of who those past Liberal leaders were. Anyone under 30 was at best 8 years old when Chretien was PM of Canada.

To make things worse, the Liberals have fashioned themselves in the image of the US's DNC and my guess is that the same thing is going to happen to them in next year's federal elections. No one in the Liberal party hierarchy has any confidence in JT and no one wants to take over as leader going into an election where they're likely to get crushed. The idea of Chrystia Freeland leading the Liberal party to a victory in next year's federal election is simply absurd. Of course anything could happen between now and Oct 20, 2025, but it's just so hard to believe that Liberals will come even close to winning, or that they will have a leader with any significant public support.
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I think if they were to have a leadership convention within the next month they'd have quite a decent chance of winning the next election. Much later than that and it's too late, I'm sure.
 
Err said:
It’s definitely not because of a rapidly decreasing GDP per capita.

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The Bank of Canada kept interest rates too high for too long. That has nothing to do with the Prime Minister.

Regardless, as of now, they're predicting 2% growth for the next while. We'll see, I guess.
 
Andy Capp said:
The Bank of Canada kept interest rates too high for too long. That has nothing to do with the Prime Minister.

Regardless, as of now, they're predicting 2% growth for the next while. We'll see, I guess.
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Yeah you’re probably right. Im sure it has nothing to do with rapid population growth.

www.ctvnews.ca

Real GDP per capita declines for 6th consecutive quarter, household savings rise

Statistics Canada says the economy grew at an annualized pace of one per cent during the third quarter, in line with economists' expectations.
www.ctvnews.ca www.ctvnews.ca
 
ColemanwastheGOAT said:
Why would they let us go? They need our equalization payments.
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Yeah, it seems like you're stuck with tens of billions in equalization outflows every year while Ottawa simultaneously clamps down on the energy sector with caps, mandates, and regulations. Eww.


Deorum said:
I've occasionally had some wild ideas about the USA annexing Alberta...

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Deorum said:
It'll be a glorious day when every man, woman, and child in Alberta becomes a proud American citizen.

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Deorum said:
The issue could be solved if America simply annexed Alberta. 😏
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therealdope said:
I'm sure it's just his face.

Average Canadian: "Hey, I'm tired of JT's face. Let me see who else I can vote for".
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He will have been pm for close to 10 years. People get sick of leaders after that long. His record doesn’t help either. He should step down and let the party choose a new leader.
 
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