Social Transgender Megathread Vol. 2

[GolovKing]

 

[RoastBeast]

Looks like Anton in drag from No Country for Old Men.

 

[Phlog]

Genuine question for the people who believe in the multiple gender thing:

If genitals and biology don't define gender then how does altering them through surgery and hormones somehow affirm gender?

I'm really curious. Feel free to pm me an answer if you're worried about being flamed here I just want an answer. A lot of this shit just doesn't make sense to me.

I'm no proponent of gender surgery, but I think it's obvious that they believe the gender surgery affirms how they feel about their gender. They propose that there is a incongruity that is solved through dressing up and self mutilation.

 

[Phlog]

Reporter gets arrested for asking questions about transgender rugby athlete.

Reporter got arrested for being a total dick. Trying to get people to stand against this shit and risk their jobs, relationships etc. Such a cock. And his friend had twice his T levels

 

[Billy no mates]

A pure autogynephile , utterly consumed by his fetish .

 

[Soggust]

I don't understand what I'm supposed to be taking from this.

She's ugly, sure, but so am I - and otherwise she's just doing her job and doesn't seem to be hurting anyone.

 

[RoastBeast]

I don't understand what I'm supposed to be taking from this.

She's ugly, sure, but so am I - and otherwise she's just doing her job and doesn't seem to be hurting anyone.

You know that's a man, right?

 

[cincymma79]

Secodn hospital being investigated for cutting off kids dicks. Member when this totally wasn’t happening? Pepperidge farm remembers.

https://www.texaschildrens.org/departments/disorders-sexual-differentiation

 

[Soggust]

You know that's a man, right?

Why does it matter lol?

I don't believe in Islam, but I don't make it a point to call Muhammad Ali, "Cassius Clay".

It just ain't that deep imo.

 

[GolovKing]

I don't understand what I'm supposed to be taking from this.

She's ugly, sure, but so am I - and otherwise she's just doing her job and doesn't seem to be hurting anyone.

"She's" ugly because that's actually a 60 year old man who's not only dressed like a woman but also wearing an enormous pair of fake tits that are barely covered. Even an actual young woman presenting herself like that in a professional setting would be looked down upon as ridiculous and unprofessional much less some 60 year old man who's clearly doing it to satisfy some sick perversion or fetish he has. Yet somehow we are supposed to pretend like there's nothing at all wrong with it

 

[Soggust]

"She's" ugly because that's actually a 60 year old man who's not only dressed like a woman but also wearing an enormous pair of fake tits that are barely covered. Even an actual young woman presenting herself like that in a professional setting would be looked down upon as ridiculous and unprofessional much less some 60 year old man who's clearly doing it to satisfy some sick perversion or fetish he has. Yet somehow we are supposed to pretend like there's nothing at all wrong with it

So, ugly and showing too much cleavage?

Aight, I can agree with that.

I think she should be held to the same standard as all attorneys regarding cleavage (idk what that is but would have assumed Judge would have said something).

But unless she's jerking off under the defense table, "ugly person shows too much cleavage in court" feels like we are grasping at straws to find something to be upset about.

 

[GolovKing]

So, ugly and showing too much cleavage?

Aight, I can agree with that.

I think she should be held to the same standard as all attorneys regarding cleavage (idk what that is but would have assumed Judge would have said something).

But unless she's jerking off under the defense table, "ugly person shows too much cleavage in court" feels like we are grasping at straws to find something to be upset about.

No that's your description of it not mine. There's ugly and then there's gross. And keep in mind this is a person that's choosing to make themselves look like that, we're not talking about a burn victim or person born with some horrifying deformity. Then there's the whole public display of a kink thing. Imagine showing up to court in a gimp suit. And on top of it all, it's a person living a flat out lie and we as a society are being conditioned to think truth and fantasy means nothing.

 

[EndlessCritic]

Looks like John Danaher, except somehow more insufferable.

 

[Soggust]

No that's your description of it not mine. There's ugly and then there's gross. And keep in mind this is a person that's choosing to make themselves look like that, we're not talking about a burn victim or person born with some horrifying deformity.

Sure.

Hideous. Repulsive. Disgusting.

Idc what we call her lol. I'm not trying to fuck her or spare her feelings.

Then there's the whole public display of a kink thing. Imagine showing up to court in a gimp suit.

If someone chooses to dress up like this, ostracize themselves from friends and family, ruin potential career prospects etc - all to live a different lifestyle, idk man I'm kinda inclined to believe it's more than just a kink. Especially when there is an entire community of like-minded individuals who are arguing the same.

But regardless, the reason you can't wear a gimp suit isn't sexual, it's because it's not business attire. It's the same reason you can't wear a Hamburgler costume to represent your client in court either.

She's wearing business attire. You can argue the cleavage (which I've conceded), but otherwise it seems appropriate for the courtroom imo.

And on top of it all, it's a person living a flat out lie and we as a society are being conditioned to think truth and fantasy means nothing.

47% of Americans believe in religion. Not spirituality (a diff 33%), but an actual organized religion.

We've been accepting bullshit as a society for thousands of years.

It feels like we are hating on this person for simply existing.

 

[GolovKing]

Sure.

Hideous. Repulsive. Disgusting.

Idc what we call her lol. I'm not trying to fuck her or spare her feelings.




If someone chooses to dress up like this, ostracize themselves from friends and family, ruin potential career prospects etc - all to live a different lifestyle, idk man I'm kinda inclined to believe it's more than just a kink. Especially when there is an entire community of like-minded individuals who are arguing the same.

But regardless, the reason you can't wear a gimp suit isn't sexual, it's because it's not business attire. It's the same reason you can't wear a Hamburgler costume to represent your client in court either.

She's wearing business attire. You can argue the cleavage (which I've conceded), but otherwise it seems appropriate for the courtroom imo.




47% of Americans believe in religion. Not spirituality (a diff 33%), but an actual organized religion.

We've been accepting bullshit as a society for thousands of years.

It feels like we are hating on this person for simply existing.

What this person is wearing is business attire only in the fantasy world of porn. And the cosmetic enhancements are also not professional and are indicative of someone with mental health issues. At what point does something finally look inappropriate to you? Is it only when it's illegal or written in writing as being against policy? If someone popped a viagra before court and had an obvious boner would it be foolish for others to be offended as well? If someone had a face tattoo of someone peeing should we not judge that either? At what point do you consider something inappropriate? In regards to religion it's about faith and is a complex matter of which no one truly has the answer. Not scientists, not priests, no one truly knows if there is indeed an afterlife, what it's like and how the world was formed. Knowing the difference between a man and a woman is not a complex matter. It's about as complex as me knowing that the font I'm typing in is white not blue

 

[Soggust]

What this person is wearing is business attire only in the fantasy world of porn. And the cosmetic enhancements are also not professional and are indicative of someone with mental health issues. At what point does something finally look inappropriate to you? Is it only when it's illegal or written in writing as being against policy? If someone popped a viagra before court and had an obvious boner would it be foolish for others to be offended as well? If someone had a face tattoo of someone peeing should we not judge that either? At what point do you consider something inappropriate?

I mean, I don't want to cop out because I think your question is theoretical not literal, but the direct answer is whatever the presiding judge deems as appropriate for their courtroom. If the judge sees it too far, they have discretion to call it out, regardless of gender. It doesn't appear they have done so in this case, but maybe I'm wrong on that.

But to answer your question theoretically, I think I do generally fall into the "only when it's illegal or written in writing as being against policy". I don't think someone should be disbarred or arrested for having a boner at work unless they start harassing people with it. But that would be a separate issue. I think a young gang member with face tats should be able to, theoretically, change their life around and attend law school to become an attorney.

I broadly don't give a shit what other people do, as long as they aren't harming others.

In regards to religion it's about faith and is a complex matter of which no one truly has the answer. Not scientists, not priests, no one truly knows if there is indeed an afterlife, what it's like and how the world was formed. Knowing the difference between a man and a woman is not a complex matter. It's about as complex as me knowing that the font I'm typing in is white not blue

Seems like our conviction of gender is much stronger than our faith in our religion.

With gender it's "come on man it's obvious" but when it comes to religion it's like "hey, who knows any of us could be right" lol.

• If I'm truly convinced Christ is the Messiah, why wouldn't it be based to consider Jews mentally ill since they don't see something that's as obvious as day to me?
  
  
• If someone told you they actually believed the story of Adam and Eve or Noah verbatim because they grew up with a very literal interpretation of the Old Testament, would you consider this person retarded?
  
  
• If Pastor McPreacher at the local Baptist Church who has a wife, two kids, loves college football on Saturdays and teaches a Creationism class on Sunday, should he be allowed to shit in a public restroom lol?

Basically, are these people sick and should be ostracized in public? Or should they be free to just believe in whatever makes them happy as long as they don't harm others?

 

[RoastBeast]

I mean, I don't want to cop out because I think your question is theoretical not literal, but the direct answer is whatever the presiding judge deems as appropriate for their courtroom. If the judge sees it too far, they have discretion to call it out, regardless of gender. It doesn't appear they have done so in this case, but maybe I'm wrong on that.

But to answer your question theoretically, I think I do generally fall into the "only when it's illegal or written in writing as being against policy". I don't think someone should be disbarred or arrested for having a boner at work unless they start harassing people with it. But that would be a separate issue. I think a young gang member with face tats should be able to, theoretically, change their life around and attend law school to become an attorney.

I broadly don't give a shit what other people do, as long as they aren't harming others.




Seems like our conviction of gender is much stronger than our faith in our religion.

With gender it's "come on man it's obvious" but when it comes to religion it's like "hey, who knows any of us could be right" lol.

• If I'm truly convinced Christ is the Messiah, why wouldn't it be based to consider Jews mentally ill since they don't see something that's as obvious as day to me?
  
  
• If someone told you they actually believed the story of Adam and Eve or Noah verbatim because they grew up with a very literal interpretation of the Old Testament, would you consider this person retarded?
  
  
• If Pastor McPreacher at the local Baptist Church who has a wife, two kids, loves college football on Saturdays and teaches a Creationism class on Sunday, should he be allowed to shit in a public restroom lol?

Basically, are these people sick and should be ostracized in public? Or should they be free to just believe in whatever makes them happy as long as they don't harm others?

Your last line "as long as they don't harm others" is why no one gave a shit about trans people 10+ years ago because they weren't harming others. Now that they're pushing their way into women's bathrooms, women's sports and getting people fired for not pretending they're the opposite sex, they're harming others.

Your analogies are still way off. If your coworker Bob is mormon and you go up to him and ask him how catholic mass went, he's not going to run to HR and get you fired for misrepresenting his religion.

 

[Soggust]

they're pushing their way into women's bathrooms

Which I believe to be clearly better than the alternative.

The idea is that "hey, Joe Rapist can just put on a dress and walk into the women's restroom! We need to protect the women!"

But the alternative is that Joe Rapist will just walk the fuck right into the women's restroom. And when I say "Hey! Stop motherfucker! You can't go in there!", Joe Rapist won't have to pretend to be a woman - He'll just pretend to be trans! "It's cool bro, I'm trans! I got a vagina, just tons of hormones!"

So, unless the gameplan is to check their vaginas or force everyone to carry ID, keep a cop at every public restroom in America, ban transmen from using public restrooms altogether, and still have the police called every 3 minutes, that position doesn't seem to make any sense to me.

women's sports

I actually agree here. I think the policy should be set by the organization bc some may not matter like checkers and some might be bio female + open (thinking wrestling), but in general I think "seperate but equal" might be the shittiest of terrible solutions when it comes to physical sports.

Your analogies are still way off. If your coworker Bob is mormon and you go up to him and ask him how catholic mass went, he's not going to run to HR and get you fired for misrepresenting his religion.

I believe what happens more often in reality is that when Bob converts to Islam from Mormonism and we go up and continually remind him that Christ is our Lord and Savior, he's eventually going to have a pretty good HR case against us.

 

[GolovKing]

I mean, I don't want to cop out because I think your question is theoretical not literal, but the direct answer is whatever the presiding judge deems as appropriate for their courtroom. If the judge sees it too far, they have discretion to call it out, regardless of gender. It doesn't appear they have done so in this case, but maybe I'm wrong on that.

But to answer your question theoretically, I think I do generally fall into the "only when it's illegal or written in writing as being against policy". I don't think someone should be disbarred or arrested for having a boner at work unless they start harassing people with it. But that would be a separate issue. I think a young gang member with face tats should be able to, theoretically, change their life around and attend law school to become an attorney.

I broadly don't give a shit what other people do, as long as they aren't harming others.




Seems like our conviction of gender is much stronger than our faith in our religion.

With gender it's "come on man it's obvious" but when it comes to religion it's like "hey, who knows any of us could be right" lol.

• If I'm truly convinced Christ is the Messiah, why wouldn't it be based to consider Jews mentally ill since they don't see something that's as obvious as day to me?
  
  
• If someone told you they actually believed the story of Adam and Eve or Noah verbatim because they grew up with a very literal interpretation of the Old Testament, would you consider this person retarded?
  
  
• If Pastor McPreacher at the local Baptist Church who has a wife, two kids, loves college football on Saturdays and teaches a Creationism class on Sunday, should he be allowed to shit in a public restroom lol?

Basically, are these people sick and should be ostracized in public? Or should they be free to just believe in whatever makes them happy as long as they don't harm others?

I don't believe any of your lies or any other person on the left claiming to not care about anything unless it "does no harm to others" until you are willing to let me use your t shirt as a napkin to blow my nose in. And I'm sure you'll probably say you wouldn't care because it's the Internet and you don't have to provide receipts for anything

 

[Deleted member 592570]

Why does it matter lol?

This is such a stupid question. If it doesn't matter, then why do these people want to make it illegal to 'misgender' them? Clearly it does matter. A lot.