Training Methods of the Old-time Boxers

[YukisHeart]

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[thelyricalmaste]

It depends on the boxer obviously, but modern heavyweights are probably a good deal stronger than old timey guys. The cost of that muscle might be reduced coordination and stamina (though this is probably a pacing issue).

I'm pretty sure that the old guys would benefit from improved weight lifting methods, but some modern guys seem to fall in love with strength. David Tua and Tommy Morrison sacrificed much needed qualities like elusiveness and stamina for pure power.

 

[PussyPants]

I've always heard that old school boxers trained with a lot of distance running and bodyweight exercises and never used weights. Current boxers obviously use weights and more HIIT type training. These differences are enough to account for the differences in physiques.

 

[Searcher]

Jack Dempsey was also lighter compared to other heavyweights. I think he weighed around 185lbs-195lbs. Maybe the fighters of old didn't cut water weight either.

 

[Searcher]

 

[flak]

Dempsey supposedly did a lot of heavy manual labor.

 

[zx]

I think new age supplements are the key, in all individual sports.

 

[Tosa]

On average all athletes are leaner now than their past counterparts. This is due to increased knowledge regarding nutrition. There's also much more knowledge about strength and conditioning. Heavyweights today are significantly larger than they were in the past.

 

[Roy]

I find the difference between athletes of today and yesteryears to be interesting as well and I have pondered the difference in training. For example, if you look at college football from like 100 years ago, linemen weighed like 180-190lbs. Most modern linemen weight AT LEAST 300 lbs and It's pretty rare to find ANY player in the NFL at any position who weighs less than 200. I don't know if its all modern training and nutrition or just greater emphasis on starting out with players with truly freakish proportions to begin with.

 

[Artigo]

Gene Tunney worked at a lumber mill for a number of months and put on 15lbs before his first fight with Jack Dempsey

 

[KILL KILL]

On average all athletes are leaner now than their past counterparts. This is due to increased knowledge regarding nutrition. There's also much more knowledge about strength and conditioning. Heavyweights today are significantly larger than they were in the past.

exactly. Just look at the advancements we've seen in nutrition and strength training in the past 20 years. It's like comparing football players from the 60's to the 300+ pounders we have now.

 

[flak]

The Mike Casey Archive | The Cyber Boxing Zone

Muscle Builder - February 1925 - Part One

 

[LZD]

*edit. wrong thread* :S

 

[Goth_Judoka]

Looking at this pic, Nick Diaz kinda looks like Jack Dempsey.

 

[KILL KILL]

Also forgot to mention fighters cutting weight. a quick weight cut to a lower weight class will definately leave you looking larger for that weight class. and possibly more ripped with the loss of water weight.

 

[lovemyar15]

Gene Tunney worked at a lumber mill for a number of months and put on 15lbs before his first fight with Jack Dempsey

I did this for a few years straight out of high school made me appreciate the job and pay I have now...lol

I think while modern day athletes are stronger/bigger due to better training it also has to do with now they make enough money that it is their only occupation. Also competition has increased to where those people with smaller frames are eliminated early on from sports like football due to the inability to ever have the mass that is needed at the college/pro level.

I also believe that even though modern athletes are bigger, stronger, and faster that athletes in the old days were tougher.

 

[lukewall]

On average all athletes are leaner now than their past counterparts. This is due to increased knowledge regarding nutrition. There's also much more knowledge about strength and conditioning. Heavyweights today are significantly larger than they were in the past.

In the past 15 years HWs have gotten bigger in terms of weight but not really height. With a few exceptions, most of the top HWs have been around 6'1"(give or take a few inches). The modern HWs pushing 240+ lbs are generally in terrible shape and probably has a lot to do with the fallacy that the modern HW is bigger. If those guys were in the kind of shape and physical condition of HWs from previous eras, they would more than likely be pushing 220lbs at most. Not really much bigger than the HWs of the past.

 

[King Creatine]

The old "muscle buider" article was awesome. A few sig worthy quotes in there. I had to borrow one of them for my own. I love that!

 

[Tosa]

In the past 15 years HWs have gotten bigger in terms of weight but not really height. With a few exceptions, most of the top HWs have been around 6'1"(give or take a few inches). The modern HWs pushing 240+ lbs are generally in terrible shape and probably has a lot to do with the fallacy that the modern HW is bigger. If those guys were in the kind of shape and physical condition of HWs from previous eras, they would more than likely be pushing 220lbs at most. Not really much bigger than the HWs of the past.

You're just making things up. In the past two decades, only 3 heavyweight champions have been shorter than 6'1" (Tyson, Byrd, Jones Jr). You have to look back to the 70s and earlier before you start seeing heavyweights being 6'1" or shorter on average.

 

[Steak**]

Just a cool pic imo of a heavyweight boxer.