Top boxers vs top Kickboxing in K-1 rules?

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Hi everyone.

In the world of boxing there are a lot of athletes and the biggests paychecks in combat sports, for that the best athletes of combat sports compete in boxing. Knowing that, is possible for top boxers especially in big weights (LWH-Cruiser-HW) compete against top level kickboxers (Glory or One) in a K-1 match?

For example, could Anthony Joshua avoid or defend kicks against Rico Verhoeen and close dstance to break him with punches? Or beterviev vs Welter-Middleweights in Glory (77kg. and 84kg. respectively)?
 
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History generally hasn't been on the side of the boxers, in those situations. When you're dealing with big punchers in the heavier boxing weight classes, there is always potential that they'll land a huge shot and end it, but their limited skill sets generally reveal themselves quickly. Butterbean won a KB match by head kick though, so what do I know?
 
calipojack said:
Hi everyone.

In the world of boxing there are a lot of athletes and the biggests paychecks in combat sports, for that the best athletes of combat sports compete in boxing. Knowing that, is possible for top boxers especially in big weights (LWH-Cruiser-HW) compete against top level kickboxers (Glory or One) in a K-1 match?

For example, could Anthony Joshua avoid or defend kicks against Rico Verhoeen and close dstance to break him with punches? Or beterviev vs Welter-Middleweights in Glory (77kg. and 84kg. respectively)?
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I am not sure that the best athletes are in boxing. In fact I believe that kickboxing is more physical than boxing. However, boxers likely have better reflexes and coordination as boxing is more about precision and timing IMO.

I think that most boxers would get broken by leg and body kicks in K1. Most kickboxers in boxing will look like Conor vs Mayweather.

Beterbiev is an exception though. He's a cyborg and could possibly break kickboxers in K1.
 
Depends MIke Bernardo was a boxer and he did great in K-1. Granted he was doing Karate as a kid but still.
 
It would have been interesting if in 1985 Don Wilson had faced a Michael Spinks in a kickboxing vs boxing match; or in 1992 if Evander Holyfield had squared off against a Dennis Alexio, Holyfiled with boxing and Alexio with kickboxing.
 
It's true that boxing likely has the best athletes because it has the biggest talent pool to pick from.

It's not true that all the best athletes in the world (or even just combat sports) go into boxing because it pays better.

People keep saying this narrative on this forum, and it's not really how sports work unless you're being highly selective with your examples.

Take a large country like Thailand for example. Do the best combat sport athletes go into boxing? No, not really. Now, could you find some Muay Thai fighters who have tried boxing and even found success? Yes - but are they the best athletes in the country? Not really.



It reminds me of that Sean Strickland statement about NFL guys would dominate MMA if it paid better. Okay, then why don't track and field athletes or gymnast do that? They're more athletic than football players, why don't they dominate the NFL while they're at it?
 
The Fighter: A lot of the time it comes down to the athlete. A fighter with less experience can beat another.

Expectations: A kickboxer knowing he's facing a boxer and preparing for it can be an important factor.

Styles: Styles make fights.

Also the chances are higher for fighters at the heavier weight classes due to bigger guys being more power based and most of the time less skilled.
 
Metatron said:
The Fighter: A lot of the time it comes down to the athlete. A fighter with less experience can beat another.
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Yes this can be imporgant in cross discipline fights. Like in Ryuki vs Khunsueklek
Not bad for an overrated japanese scene lol How about it bro

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It's possible but hasn't been done much at all since the K-1 days. One of the main reasons is money. Why would you got to a sport where you earn less per fight but get battered with more brutal techniques like kicks and knees that you aren't used to?

It would be like a top level kickboxer or nak muay wanting to cross over to Lethwei, where he'd earn less money per fight and also now has to deal with bare knuckle punches and headbutts.

Otherwise any transition is always possible, we've seen it with Kickboxers like Adesanya and Pereira going to MMA.
 
Emanuele said:
It would have been interesting if in 1985 Don Wilson had faced a Michael Spinks in a kickboxing vs boxing match; or in 1992 if Evander Holyfield had squared off against a Dennis Alexio, Holyfiled with boxing and Alexio with kickboxing.
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Alexio is a candy compared in this time with fighters like Hoost or Aerts.

I´m more interested in see modern fighters, Kickboxing have evoleved a lot since the 90´s. Know the trainers are more experienced, more selective techniques etc. In the K-1 era in 90´s and early 00´s most of fighters were primitive kickboxers, karate fighters etc.

In the late 00´s and last decade Kickboxing evolved a lot, it´s like MMA, in the beggings fighters were specialist form other sports (karate-boxing-wwrestling, Bjj etc.) in the last years MMA is a sport and gyms specialiced in MMA training forming complete fighters and techniques have evolved a lot.
 
KBE6EKCTAH_CCP said:
I am not sure that the best athletes are in boxing. In fact I believe that kickboxing is more physical than boxing. However, boxers likely have better reflexes and coordination as boxing is more about precision and timing IMO.

I think that most boxers would get broken by leg and body kicks in K1. Most kickboxers in boxing will look like Conor vs Mayweather.

Beterbiev is an exception though. He's a cyborg and could possibly break kickboxers in K1.
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Beterbiev vs Donovan Wisse or Cedric Doumbe?
 
Same as with MMA, they'd win occasionally, probably by early KO. Most of the time they'd have the holes in their game exploited and lose quickly.

I think the idea that boxers are the best athletes is an oversimplification too. They have the MOST athletes yeah (although all combat sports talent pools are quite small anyway) but that doesnt necessarily mean they're "better" athletes. They're different sports with different athletic demands.
 
calipojack said:
Alexio is a candy compared in this time with fighters like Hoost or Aerts.
I´m more interested in see modern fighters, Kickboxing have evoleved a lot since the 90´s. Know the trainers are more experienced, more selective techniques etc. In the K-1 era in 90´s and early 00´s most of fighters were primitive kickboxers, karate fighters etc.
In the late 00´s and last decade Kickboxing evolved a lot, it´s like MMA, in the beggings fighters were specialist form other sports (karate-boxing-wwrestling, Bjj etc.) in the last years MMA is a sport and gyms specialiced in MMA training forming complete fighters and techniques have evolved a lot.
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I respect your opinion, but I dont' like K1. In my opinion, the best era of kickboxing was in the '80s and early '90s.
 
Emanuele said:
I respect your opinion, but I dont' like K1. In my opinion, the best era of kickboxing was in the '80s and early '90s.
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90s kickboxing is so overrated. It was very fun for the heavyweights sure but it's not good enough to act like sport peaked there.

K-1 MAX was always the sports peak for me.
 
However, in every discipline, '80s or '90s fighters seem candy if compared with modern fighters.
 
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