Top 3 P4P boxers

GGG is undefeated, Canelo has the best overall resume and SSR has the best recent wins. Based on accomplishments I'd put Crawford and Lomachenko slightly behind, but to me it's currently more relevant to point out a top 5 than a top 3.
 
What, right now? I guess Wilder, Loma and GGG.

EDIT: Scanned other responses and no love for Wilder? Dude is 40-0, 39 by KO.
 
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Hotora86 said:
What, right now? I guess Wilder, Loma and GGG.

EDIT: Scanned other responses and no love for Wilder? Dude is 40-0, 39 by KO.
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I thought you were joking about Wilder. Who's he beat? The best guy on his resume is Ortiz. Joshua does better to be on this list than Wilder because he at least beat Wladimir.
 
aries said:
I thought you were joking about Wilder. Who's he beat? The best guy on his resume is Ortiz. Joshua does better to be on this list than Wilder because he at least beat Wladimir.
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I don't claim to be a boxing expert (because I'm not) but I can see Wilder beating Joshua. I hope we see that fight soon.
 
I'm not getting all the love Canelo's resume is getting. I mean, yes, the Lara win was great, the Trout win was pretty good and the Cotto win was somewhere in between. That said, who did he face after that? Khan at 160? the useless son of a legend? sugar shot mosley? very meh to me. He got the draw with GGG I guess, but even then I thought he lost that pretty clearly.
 
ironfist05 said:
I'm not getting all the love Canelo's resume is getting. I mean, yes, the Lara win was great, the Trout win was pretty good and the Cotto win was somewhere in between. That said, who did he face after that? Khan at 160? the useless son of a legend? sugar shot mosley? very meh to me. He got the draw with GGG I guess, but even then I thought he lost that pretty clearly.
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I'd say you summed up my thoughts on Canelo too. He fought the best P4P though, oh yeah he lost that by pretty much a shut out. Losses don't count eh? The key is he lost to GGG. So any idiot who puts Canelo in the top P4P but not GGG is smoking some real live shit imho.
 
Lomachenko
Crawford
Golovkin

Lomachenko has the best combinations of incredible performances and top notch competition. Toying with Walters, Rigondeaux, Marriaga, and Gary Russel Jr. is pretty impressive. He leaves no doubt as to who is the best in the divisions he operates in.

Crawford isn't far behind, he arguably has even better performances and unified but the opponents are a shade less impressive.

Golovkin is the most dominant in a sense but also fought in the weakest division. Most had him beating Canelo but the fight was very competitive and Canelo was the one moving up. His next best win in Jacobs was also razor close, and after that you have Lemieux, who isn't better than Walters, Rigondeaux. It is better than Crawford's though so maybe I should switch them?

Lomachenko
GGG
Crawford

Didn't expect to change my mind.
 
Ah crap, how could I leave Sor Rungvisai out of this conversation. Beating Chocolatito and then Estrada is arguably better than anything those 3 have done, but they're only very recent good wins.
 
aries said:
I thought you were joking about Wilder. Who's he beat? The best guy on his resume is Ortiz. Joshua does better to be on this list than Wilder because he at least beat Wladimir.
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It's hard to have any HW close to the top 5 at the moment. Whoever unifies should be in the conversation, but certainly before then.
 
Gambit MMA said:
lost a bullshit decision to ward who was p4p #1 before and lost to him after
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Ward wasn't p4p #1 when Kovalev lost to him the first time. Ward only re-asserted himself as p4p #1 after stopping Kovalev (then he retired). By this same logic, Gonzalez would probably have a better claim than Kovalev for being in the p4p conversation.
 
JayE said:
Ward wasn't p4p #1 when Kovalev lost to him the first time. Ward only re-asserted himself as p4p #1 after stopping Kovalev (then he retired). By this same logic, Gonzalez would probably have a better claim than Kovalev for being in the p4p conversation.
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not gonna argue with u, ur talking about wilder in another one of ur posts, u can have ur opinion and ill have mine

kov shoulda got the nod against the p4p #1 undefeated boxer and didnt get it, and got stopped in the rematch. hes won 2 since then. he has as much right to be there as guys like canelo who should have collected an L for his last fight but some fishy judging helped him avoid that
 
Gambit MMA said:
not gonna argue with u, ur talking about wilder in another one of ur posts, u can have ur opinion and ill have mine

kov shoulda got the nod against the p4p #1 undefeated boxer and didnt get it, and got stopped in the rematch. hes won 2 since then. he has as much right to be there as guys like canelo who should have collected an L for his last fight but some fishy judging helped him avoid that
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I'm talking about Wilder in another one of my posts? What does that have to do with anything?

Anyway, no one had Ward p4p #1 when he beat Kovalev in their first fight. He only regained that distinction after stopping Kovalev in the rematch.

I'm someone who think that people have been excessively harsh and dismissive of Kovalev after Ward stopped him, but I don't see how you could possibly have Kovalev over the likes of Sor Rungvisai, Crawford, or Garcia.
 
JayE said:
I'm talking about Wilder in another one of my posts? What does that have to do with anything?

Anyway, no one had Ward p4p #1 when he beat Kovalev in their first fight. He only regained that distinction after stopping Kovalev in the rematch.

I'm someone who think that people have been excessively harsh and dismissive of Kovalev after Ward stopped him, but I don't see how you could possibly have Kovalev over the likes of Sor Rungvisai, Crawford, or Garcia.
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i had ward still #1 because he never lost, dont see a reason why he would lose that distinction and "get it back". he never lost
 
Gambit MMA said:
i had ward still #1 because he never lost, dont see a reason why he would lose that distinction and "get it back". he never lost
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Because of extreme inactivity. It's debatable that Ward was ever #1 p4p before stopping Kovalev (he was a long term #2 to Floyd). After fighting Dawson, it took him more than four years to get in the ring with another genuine top fighter. The inactivity was because of legal battles, mostly, but when you're that inactive against top opposition you're not going to be rated #1 p4p when there are other unbeaten fighters beating elite competition over several weights like Roman Gonzalez.
 
JayE said:
Because of extreme inactivity. It's debatable that Ward was ever #1 p4p before stopping Kovalev (he was a long term #2 to Floyd). After fighting Dawson, it took him more than four years to get in the ring with another genuine top fighter. The inactivity was because of legal battles, mostly, but when you're that inactive against top opposition you're not going to be rated #1 p4p when there are other unbeaten fighters beating elite competition over several weights like Roman Gonzalez.
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And Floyd stepped away in 2015 and Ward came back and had 2 fights in 2016 before Kovalev. I had him #1 P4P. The fight with Kovalev was billed and hyped as such - matchup between two top 3-5 P4P guys, wherever u had them ranked doesn’t really matter
 
Gambit MMA said:
And Floyd stepped away in 2015 and Ward came back and had 2 fights in 2016 before Kovalev. I had him #1 P4P. The fight with Kovalev was billed and hyped as such - matchup between two top 3-5 P4P guys, wherever u had them ranked doesn’t really matter
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Okay; it still hasn't really been established how you'd justify Kovalev ahead of Crawford, Sor Rungvisai, or Garcia at the moment.
 
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