NFL Top 20 NFL QB's

More "but ringz br0". Lol. You're arguing team accomplishments vs. actual talent. Big difference. Just because I can drive a Ferrari faster than Jeff Gordon can drive a Prius does not mean I'm a more skilled driver than Jeff Gordon. Get a clue, indeed.
See my post above. BTW your "team effort" argument also falls short when you consider that Brady has the most Super Bowl MVP awards of any player in NFL history. That's an individual award for the most valuable player on the field. Just as his other records are also individual achievements. "Talent" is hardly quantifiable without bringing achievements into the conversation. The eye test alone isn't enough, chief.
 
See my post above. BTW your "team effort" argument also falls short when you consider that Brady has the most Super Bowl MVP awards of any player in NFL history. That's an individual award for the most valuable player on the field. Just as his other records are also individual achievements. "Talent" is hardly quantifiable without bringing achievements into the conversation. The eye test alone isn't enough, chief.
You continue using the opinions of others to justify your own. If you genuinely believed I was stupid and my argument had no weight, you wouldn't engage. But it does. It shatters your narrative and you don't have a proper response other than "but ringz. And mvpee"
 
You continue using the opinions of others to justify your own. If you genuinely believed I was stupid and my argument had no weight, you wouldn't engage. But it does. It shatters your narrative and you don't have a proper response other than "but ringz. And mvpee"
Except I'm not. It's a fact that Brady is the only player in NFL history to win Super Bowl MVP on 2 different teams. It's a fact that he has the most Super Bowl MVPs total. Those are stats.
 
Except I'm not. It's a fact that Brady is the only player in NFL history to win Super Bowl MVP on 2 different teams. It's a fact that he has the most Super Bowl MVPs total. Those are stats.
It's a fact that his team cheated for at least half of his career. It's a fact that he rarely had to improvise or look past his first read. It's a fact he was a checkdown merchant and almost never threw more than ten yards downfield. Any mediocre QB could win in those conditions.
 
It's a fact that his team cheated for at least half of his career. It's a fact that he rarely had to improvise or look past his first read. It's a fact he was a checkdown merchant and almost never threw more than ten yards downfield. Any mediocre QB could win in those conditions.
Which team would that be? He won Super Bowls on two. I imagine you're speaking of the Pats. Never threw more than 10 yards downfield? LOL. As a QB he's the all-time leader in passing yards. Tom Brady is the GOAT and it's objectively true when you look at his individual stats, records & awards. No need to get into your feelings.
 
Which team would that be? He won Super Bowls on two. I imagine you're speaking of the Pats. Never threw more than 10 yards downfield? LOL. As a QB he's the all-time leader in passing yards. Tom Brady is the GOAT and it's objectively true when you look at his individual stats, records & awards. No need to get into your feelings.
Those yards after catch add up, sir. This is why stats are borderline irrelevant.

He gets a 6.8/10.
 
Steve Young below Philip Rivers?
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Those yards after catch add up, sir. This is why stats are borderline irrelevant.

He gets a 6.8/10.
Nice try but Brady averaged 268 yards per game and 278 yards per game in the playoffs. The reality is that before Brady became consensus QB GOAT Montana was viewed as that guy. Rice was largely considered to be that guy regardless of position. Both have already said that Brady is the best. That's why their opinions matter. Those two were his nearest rivals in the debate. That was until Brady settled it.
 
Nice try but Brady averaged 268 yards per game and 278 yards per game in the playoffs. The reality is that before Brady became consensus QB GOAT Montana was viewed as that guy. Rice was largely considered to be that guy regardless of position. Both have already said that Brady is the best. That's why their opinions matter. Those two were his nearest rivals in the debate. That was until Brady settled it.
And Tim Tebow averaged a higher QB rating. I guess Tebow is a better QB than Brady. Stats don't lie. Wow
 
And Tim Tebow averaged a higher QB rating. I guess Tebow is a better QB than Brady. Stats don't lie. Wow
The fact that you're even mentioning Tebow in the same sentence as Brady shows just how ridiculous your logic is. You're a troll and I'm done feeding you.
 
The fact that you're even mentioning Tebow in the same sentence as Brady shows just how ridiculous your logic is. You're a troll and I'm done feeding you.
It's stats br0. Suddenly statistic apologist doesn't like statistics when it doesn't match the narrative. Wild!
 
Nice try but Brady averaged 268 yards per game and 278 yards per game in the playoffs. The reality is that before Brady became consensus QB GOAT Montana was viewed as that guy. Rice was largely considered to be that guy regardless of position. Both have already said that Brady is the best. That's why their opinions matter. Those two were his nearest rivals in the debate. That was until Brady settled it.
The most amaing thing about Brady in my opinion was how he did what he did with no more mobility than he had, Guess we could say the same thing about Peyton. Two of the best ever and neither could break a 5.0 40.

With a mobile QB that D is always tihnking run or pass, not so with those two......it was always....pass.
 
The most amaing thing about Brady in my opinion was how he did what he did with no more mobility than he had, Guess we could say the same thing about Peyton. Two of the best ever and neither could break a 5.0 40.

With a mobile QB that D is always tihnking run or pass, not so with those two......it was always....pass.
Except Manning was an actual QB who dictated offenses while Brady sat back and listened to the coach in his headset spying on opponent signals and play sheets
 
Except Manning was an actual QB who dictated offenses while Brady sat back and listened to the coach in his headset spying on opponent signals and play sheets
Rocky, done with ya on this topic, it's real obvious you know nothing about this at all.

Move on , ok?
 
I know all

1.What QB returned punts?

2.What team used two QB;s both making the pro bowl in the same season?

3.This QB won the national JC title, NCAA title, Heisman, played in a Superbowl, won the NFL MVP......who?

4.The best NFL QB out of an HBCU school?

5. Give me the best NFL QB out of the MAC?

Good luck~~~~~~~~~~
 
1.What QB returned punts?

2.What team used two QB;s both making the pro bowl in the same season?

3.This QB won the national JC title, NCAA title, Heisman, played in a Superbowl, won the NFL MVP......who?

4.The best NFL QB out of an HBCU school?

5. Give me the best NFL QB out of the MAC?

Good luck~~~~~~~~~~
1. Sammy and Randall Cunningham. Kordell Stewart also punted.

2. Nick Foles > Carson Wentz

3. Broadway

4. Doug Williams. Also won a Super Bowl

5. If you're talking about the Mid American Conference, that would be Big Ben
 
1. Sammy and Randall Cunningham. Kordell Stewart also punted.

2. Nick Foles > Carson Wentz

3. Broadway

4. Doug Williams. Also won a Super Bowl

5. If you're talking about the Mid American Conference, that would be Big Ben

Well ya got one right, yep......Big Ben.
 
Well ya got one right, yep......Big Ben.
Literally all are correct. Sammy and Randall returned punts. Foles and Wentz made the Pro Bowl. Joe Namath won those titles and Doug Williams is considered the greatest HBCU QB. McNair didn't win a Super Bowl. I thought that was your big argument. Lol
 
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