Title Shot for Curtis Blaydes

[StonedLemur]

You're intentionally missing the point. Him, the UFC, and all of us have known that was the plan since he vacated. It's not some unexpected and privileged match making that came out of nowhere.

Yeah, I don't play up to a used to be superstar, I care about the guys putting in work.
He hasn't fought in 3 years, he was "bulking up" the whole time when I have and you have seen him put on more lean muscle mass in a year and a half.

This guy has gotten more free passes than anyone in the history of MMA ffs.
Well, Im over giving this douche free passes sir.

 

[Fioretti]

Yeah, I don't play up to a used to be superstar, I care about the guys putting in work.
He hasn't fought in 3 years, he was "bulking up" the whole time when I have and you have seen him put on more lean muscle mass in a year and a half.

This guy has gotten more free passes than anyone in the history of MMA ffs.
Well, Im over giving this douche free passes sir.

Your personal opinion doesn't negate the fact that he has earned, and is deserving of, an immediate title shot. He hasn't bulked up more than this. That's irrelevant anyway. This was always the plan. It's ok.

 

[StonedLemur]

Accomplishments and drawing power are the two driving factors of this business, buddy. Nobody has ever been more deserving.

Jon hasn't been a draw in years sir.
What he has done though is.

Gotten popped enough times for a permanent ban.

Made entire events moved to different states because he's a fuck up.

Been arrested multiple times...from firearms charges that magically go away, to beating his lady bloody on the same night of his HOF induction etc etc etc etc etc.

Yes, praise worthy sir.

 

[StonedLemur]

Your personal opinion doesn't negate the fact that he has earned, and is deserving of, an immediate title shot. He hasn't bulked up more than this. That's irrelevant anyway. This was always the plan. It's ok.

Yes it is ok, it's ok for him to be a scumbag, its ok for him to be a drug addict, its ok to be a criminal, its ok to pop for peds, its ok that he hasn't looked good in the cage since the second Gus fight.....its all ok for Jon.

I mean its so ok that....fuck it, lets give em a title shot.
Im not in line to be hand fed bullshit sir.

 

[Fioretti]

Jon hasn't been a draw in years sir.
What he has done though is.

Gotten popped enough times for a permanent ban.

Made entire events moved to different states because he's a fuck up.

Been arrested multiple times...from firearms charges that magically go away, to beating his lady bloody on the same night of his HOF induction etc etc etc etc etc.

Yes, praise worthy sir.

He's still a draw. It's still the match to make. There's only one person in the history of the sport who has accomplished more. Arrests are irrelevant. Nobody has ever been more deserving. Doesn't matter how much anyone doesn't like the guy.

His accomplishments and his name value trump anything you or anyone else can say. It's happening for a reason, and it's the right move.

Tonight's main event is more fucky than giving Jones a HW title shot. Islam is a brand new champ, without a single defense, in a "superfight" champ vs champ bout.

 

[Fioretti]

Yes it is ok, it's ok for him to be a scumbag, its ok for him to be a drug addict, its ok to be a criminal, its ok to pop for peds, its ok that he hasn't looked good in the cage since the second Gus fight.....its all ok for Jon.

I mean its so ok that....fuck it, lets give em a title shot.
Im not in line to be hand fed bullshit sir.

This response shows that you're unable and unwilling to discuss this without feelings or emotions. You don't like him, and are unwavering in your stance. Logic be damned.

 

[StonedLemur]

He's still a draw. It's still the match to make. There's only one person in the history of the sport who has accomplished more. Arrests are irrelevant. Nobody has ever been more deserving. Doesn't matter how much anyone doesn't like the guy.

His accomplishments and his name value trump anything you or anyone else can say. It's happening for a reason, and it's the right move.

Tonight's main event is more fucky than giving Jones a HW title shit. Islam is a brand new champ, without a single defense, in a "superfight" champ vs champ bout.

I don't agree with this "Superfight" either, and that's pretty well documented on here sir.

 

[StonedLemur]

This response shows that you're unable and unwilling to discuss this without feelings or emotions. You don't like him, and are unwavering in your stance. Logic be damned.

It has nothing to do with emotions, and as a matter of fact Im bading it off of the oast just like you are...only difference is Im not lauding him for it, and you are.

What I am saying is fact, and a documented fact, not something that has zero credence.

 

[Fioretti]

It has nothing to do with emotions, and as a matter of fact Im bading it off of the oast just like you are...only difference is Im not lauding him for it, and you are.

What I am saying is fact, and a documented fact, not something that has zero credence.

You're hyperfocusing on irrelevant events outside of the cage that literally have zero effect on matchmaking. It's pure emotion. It's how you feel about him as a person, and how you believe that this somehow negates what he's done and/or should prevent him from getting a title shot.

Nothing you've said, or can say, will make him less deserving of the shot that he's earned and has been given.

 

[StonedLemur]

You're hyperfocusing on irrelevant events outside of the cage that literally have zero effect on matchmaking. It's pure emotion. It's how you feel about him as a person, and how you believe that this somehow negates what he's done and/or should prevent him from getting a title shot.

Nothing you've said, or can say, will make him less deserving of the shot that he's earned and has been given.

You are also basing you view on his past accomplishments, I am merely lookin at the negative ones.

 

[Fioretti]

You are also basing you view on his past accomplishments, I am merely lookin at the negative ones.

You're looking ONLY at irrelevant negatives and including your personal feelings of him as a human being. You're pretending that those feelings and outside factors somehow supersede his accomplishments and clout. They don't.

Can you tell me what Jones has done to deserve this title shot?

 

[Thepaintbucket]

Stipe is on his last leg and is looking to fight the winner of Ganes vs Jones . I imagine Jon will retire if he loses. if Ganes beats both Stipe/Jones I can see him being next in line unless Francis magically re signs with the UFC.

So we are looking at mid summer of 2024 for his title shot