News Titanic Tours Submersible missing in atlantic ocean

[Sanctus]

Can we stop with this nonsense? This is just like people grieving about climbing Everest. You bought a stupid as fuck ticket so you could brag afterwards about how you did XYZ even though it was unnecessarily risky. It didn't work out and you are an asshole for putting your friends and family through this. You won't find the best dad in the world leaving his kids to go do stupid shit that carries a very good chance that he might die. Let alone bring his kid with. People that do this nonsense are narcissistic. I might give a pass to some really old guy but these sorts of people are blowhard assholes high on their own supply.

The dad part is true.
Since I became a father, I just dont put myself at risk anymore.

Before, it was like I was free. Of course I had a family and loved ones but with a son, it's different.

I lost my father when I was 1 year old.
My son does not deserve to not have a father just because I was seeking a thrill.

Im glad I did all my "dumb" shit before because now my thrill is going with that little dude to the park.

 

[scoopj]

Oh FFS man.

Please step out of your Everything-Is-A-Massive-Conspiracy-Theory world you live in and trust in Occam's Razor that, in fact, what they're telling you is true.
The entire U.S. Coast Guard, Navy, private companies from Canada, from France, from USA, are not in some huge fucking conspiracy to tell lies to us, what THEY'RE SAYING IS WHAT HAPPENED. Plus they'll no doubt raise the wreckage they've found as it'll be required for some invetigation, so there's that.

Don't try to reason with Liverpool fans.

 

[RedBeard_]

I do think this guy has been a little bit too harshly judged:

https://nypost.com/2023/06/22/hamish-hardings-stepson-brian-szasz-speaks-out-on-nightmare-situation/

That said, it is astonishing that people smart enough to become multi-millionaires or billionaires got into a submarine the size of a few garbage cans before doing the research to discover that the hull was made of experimental materials that had not been sufficiently tested to withstand the pressure. Or, that the control and navigation of the vehicle was 100% dependent on working bluetooth. And, that CEO willingly putting his life on the line in a vehicle he knew he had not thoroughly or properly tested. I just cannot fathom how this was even possible.

 

[Dan O]

I bet you consider empathy a strong trait of yours. you people are all so alike. it's gold

What are you on about? Sorry dude I save my bleeding heart for the Congo and impoverished people in Appalachia and other places where people are just trying to survive in hellholes.

No, I have no empathy for people doing asinine bullshit and then dying as a result.

 

[HereticBD]

Given all the cheapskate shortcuts taken on building the sub maybe they took shortcuts on drafting the waivers too and they’ll have lots of loopholes that can be exploited in litigation.

In any event, you cannot waive a claim for gross negligence anyway, which may be able to be established here if it can be demonstrated just how far outside industry standards and regulation this hunk of shit really was.

I'm pretty sure the waivers will win out here. From what I've read, they were very direct in communicating all the potential issues. Almost like they formed the waivers around it being a renegade operation that couldn't pass regulations. It's apparently in plain English that the vessel was "experimental", and that you were basically signing your life away. The vessel is not actually listed as a legit sub of any kind, and it's all basically some fly by the seat of your pants kind of operation.

Doesn't really matter, though. Ocean Gate's funding ended today. Any money they might owe after a lawsuit, they won't have by the time it takes to sort it all out. The whole company is effectively dead as of today. Ain't no more carbon fiber subs going down there.

 

[MicroBrew]

Former US Navy submarine captain David Marquette is interviewed here, about the alleged sonar recording of the implosion.

The host asks him about it and he says "I guess it's possbile, I don't know anything about it" . The way he says it and the look on his face = yeah the Navy would have heard this but I can't say anything because this is classified technology. The host doesn't catch on to David's facial mannerisms.

 

[Volador]

Former US Navy submarine captain David Marquette is interviewed here, about the alleged sonar recording of the implosion.

The host asks him about it and he says "I guess it's possbile, I don't know anything about it" . The way he says it and the look on his face = yeah the Navy would have heard this but I can't say anything because this is classified technology. The host doesn't catch on to David's facial mannerisms.

Lol! Mofo was straight up laughing when he said that. Makes me think they possibly heard the implosion and knew they were donezo, and just took their time till the next day to go and check out the debris, knowing there was literally no chance of survival. Dude sounds super mad at the end, pretty much says "if you don't follow the rules, don't expect us to assist right away." Then again, he's a 50ish year old white guy, so I'll wait until other more innovative voices say their opinion.

 

[emefer]

google titanic sub distress signal. When the story first broke it was all over

I can only find two mentions and both are vague. I haven’t seen anything about a distress signal being sent anywhere until you mentioned it.

 

[HereticBD]

I do think this guy has been a little bit too harshly judged:

https://nypost.com/2023/06/22/hamish-hardings-stepson-brian-szasz-speaks-out-on-nightmare-situation/

That said, it is astonishing that people smart enough to become multi-millionaires or billionaires got into a submarine the size of a few garbage cans before doing the research to discover that the hull was made of experimental materials that had not been sufficiently tested to withstand the pressure. Or, that the control and navigation of the vehicle was 100% dependent on working bluetooth. And, that CEO willingly putting his life on the line in a vehicle he knew he had not thoroughly or properly tested. I just cannot fathom how this was even possible.

It is a bit perplexing why so many smart and wealthy folks would do this, but don't discount the power of persuasion. Like, say you're a rich dude who booked this thing, but had second thoughts. You arrive to their headquarters, and all of sudden, it seems professional as all fuck. You're taking safety courses run by professionals, and you've got all sorts of people at the base reassuring you that it's no big deal, including many experts, and the friggin' billionaire CEO, telling you that all the noise is bullshit, and that the sub had done many dives with no issue, AND he's gonna be there with you the whole time.

It would most likely loosen the concerns you might've had, if you were willing to give it a chance in the first place.

 

[emefer]

You really think Biden was micromanaging this rescue attempt and was kept informed up to the minute?

The US Navy is alleged to have gone over their sonar records after the submersible was stated as missing. They are then alleged to have found what is possibly an implosion. They can't know for sure if it was the Titan, so the rescue effort was launched.

They probably put one and one together and figured it was the can being crushed. Didn’t really seem like a rescue mission despite them saying that as there wasn’t any equipment being rushed there that would be able to bring it up if by some chance they found it intact with the passengers alive.

 

[davidlemonparty]

there's a time and a place for conspiracy theories and this is not the time and not the place.

5 men are dead. 5 families are bereaved, that's the only thing that's important right now.

Technically only four families since two of the passengers were father - son

 

[emefer]

Technically only four families since two of the passengers were father - son

Technically we’re all one extended family from africa but most don’t give a shit really

 

[cincymma79]

Technically we’re all one extended family from africa but most don’t give a shit really

I think they’re all one compressed family now

 

[syct23]

Technically we’re all one extended family from africa but most don’t give a shit really

Technically we came from the Ocean…

 

[Brandon Wilson]

I think they’re all one compressed family now

<{ByeHomer}>

 

[Randlewand]

The Titanic was discovered after they found the Scorpion.

Robert Ballard wanted to search for the Titanic but he needed money for the expedition. He contacted the US Navy who eventually granted him funding but they wanted him to use the equipment to find the wreckage of the US subs Thresher and Scorpion first. Those missions were to be secret so the search for the Titanic made a good cover story for building the equipment.

Ballard found the Thresher first because the Navy pretty much knew where the Thresher was because it sank on a test dive. They didn't know where the Scorpion was because it was tracking a Russian Sub so they were running silent. It took longer but the Scorpion was found 400 nautical miles South West of the Azores. They had 12 days worth of funding left when they headed towards the area where the Titanic went down. Since the time was short they pared down the planned search area. They decided to cross the current stream that they had encountered in the area on the previous search in the hope of crossing the debris field that could lead them to the Titanic and that worked out for them.

Yep. Good summary. Most people don't know this

 

[cincymma79]

Technically we came from the Ocean…

We all end in the ocean. We all start in the streams. We’re all carried along, by the river of dreams.

 

[GSP_37]

So they imploded way before the 30 min interval banging? Who was doing the banging? Aliens?

 

[avenue94]

So they imploded way before the 30 min interval banging? Who was doing the banging? Aliens?

Shipwrecks are quite noisy.

 

[Cariñito]

Technically we’re all one extended family from africa but most don’t give a shit really

Technically we came from the Ocean…

Technically we don't know shit about shit.