News Titanic Tours Submersible missing in atlantic ocean

[Rygu]

If those overpopulated piece of shit boats weren't a weekly thing and instead a yearly thing more people would care.

 

[Sanctus]

Apparently, the navy caught a sound of what could be an implosion on Sunday, arround the same time the communications stoped and the search authorities have been informed.

Since they could not be 100% sure, it continued as a search and rescue operation.

 

[Law Talkin’ Guy]

Don’t know they will be sued. All the passengers signed waivers

But if the families can prove, which seems possible at this point, that the sub didn't meet standards the waiver could ignored.

there's waivers, i know, but.... I do think there's gonna be big legal stuff happening, in time.

this whole thing is a big clusterfuck. I feel worst for the 19yr old teenager who really didnt wanna go and did it to please his dad and now he is not only DEAD but his body no longer exists. It's PULPED and mixed in with ORGANIC PULP from 4 other men.

I hope that, in the end, the 5 didnt die quite in vain in that this incident brings CHANGE to maritime laws about submersible classification and testing and rules and all that. This thing was phenomenally badly designed by an arrogant maverick who thought he could do things differently and skip testing and good engineering and now his design killed 5 people (not just killed but OBLITERATED their bodies) so I HOPE that no submersible can ever be built / sailed / used without high-level testing and Federal certification and proven high-quality multiple redundant systems.

I think he got away with it because these things are not COMMONLY used by the public -- it's not like it's a commercial jet.

Given all the cheapskate shortcuts taken on building the sub maybe they took shortcuts on drafting the waivers too and they’ll have lots of loopholes that can be exploited in litigation.

In any event, you cannot waive a claim for gross negligence anyway, which may be able to be established here if it can be demonstrated just how far outside industry standards and regulation this hunk of shit really was.

 

[emefer]

Hard to say. They must have known something is wrong. They sent a distress signal

Source on distress signal?

 

[emefer]

The fact they found the titanium parts of the pressure hull makes me think they dropped ballasts...ascended too quickly..and the carbon fiber/vinyl window gave way on the way up...

They were way passed the point of the design for that window so I'm thinking that's what went first

How does them finding titanium parts lead you to all that?

 

[Thepaintbucket]

Given Paul-Henri Nargeolets experience, I'm kinda surprised he willingly went on this trip. The dude supposedly has seen the Titanic 35 - 37 times.

 

[CyberRubberDuck]

Oh FFS man.

Please step out of your Everything-Is-A-Massive-Conspiracy-Theory world you live in and trust in Occam's Razor that, in fact, what they're telling you is true.
The entire U.S. Coast Guard, Navy, private companies from Canada, from France, from USA, are not in some huge fucking conspiracy to tell lies to us, what THEY'RE SAYING IS WHAT HAPPENED. Plus they'll no doubt raise the wreckage they've found as it'll be required for some invetigation, so there's that.

That's what you call a conspiracy? Admitting the harsh truth to themselves and not wanting to waste anyone's time or effort or money on a futile search?

And lol at you throwing your absolute trust behind the armed forces.
And you call me the conspiracy theorist.......

 

[Sanctus]

Titanic sub search: US Navy detected implosion sounds after sub lost contact

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65994405

 

[emefer]

That's what you call a conspiracy? Admitting the harsh truth to themselves and not wanting to waste anyone's time or effort or money on a futile search?

And lol at you throwing your absolute trust behind the armed forces.
And you call me the conspiracy theorist.......

So when they release pics and salvage the parts you will say they are doctored and fake?

 

[Prefect]

They made a few or couple of dives with this sub last year and the year before.

Just my layman's guess:
Stress fractures had developed in the carbon fiber, that was not noticed because these were hairline cracks or below the surface. They didn't do the appropriate Non destructive testing which would have revealed these issues. Or the interface between the Titanium and the Carbon fiber gave way.

From what I gather, reading and watching news reports, the traditional method to construct such vessels is all titanium. James Cameron's vessel - that he visited the Mariana Trench in - was built differently. It is a single person submersible, with a steel sphere for the pilot. The rest of the vessel is made from specially designed foam that can withstand the enormous pressures.

Info on Cameron's Deepsea Challenger
http://www.deepseachallenge.com/the-sub/sub-facts/

Info on the steel spherical section where Cameron sat.
http://www.deepseachallenge.com/the-sub/pilot-sphere/

I think some of this is a little silly because making a vessel that can get you there and back is not hard. The stuff that makes it hard is how much room do you want, what kind of cameras, how long do you want to be down there, and how many people. It is a rich person problem because no one else cares to spend the money or take risks. The guy who was going toe to toe with James Cameron as to the deepest any human manned vessel can go couldn't even find academic buyers for his vessel after he quit the hobby because it was perceived as too risky.

 

[Doughie99]

The fact they found the titanium parts of the pressure hull makes me think they dropped ballasts...ascended too quickly..and the carbon fiber/vinyl window gave way on the way up...

They were way passed the point of the design for that window so I'm thinking that's what went first

the viewing port was made of 7inch thick acrylic / plexiglass.

Not carbon-fiber, not vinyl. Carbon-fiber is not transparent at all.

 

[emefer]

I think some of this is a little silly because making a vessel that can get you there and back is not hard. The stuff that makes it hard is how much room do you want, what kind of cameras, how long do you want to be down there, and how many people. It is a rich person problem because no one else cares to spend the money or take risks. The guy who was going toe to toe with James Cameron as to the deepest any human manned vessel can go couldn't even find academic buyers for his vessel after he quit the hobby because it was perceived as too risky.

Now I wish the two had an underwater battle in their subs. Woulda been like innerspace

 

[RedBeard_]

 

[Doughie99]

That's what you call a conspiracy? Admitting the harsh truth to themselves and not wanting to waste anyone's time or effort or money on a futile search?

And lol at you throwing your absolute trust behind the armed forces.
And you call me the conspiracy theorist.......

there's a time and a place for conspiracy theories and this is not the time and not the place.

5 men are dead. 5 families are bereaved, that's the only thing that's important right now.

 

[Prefect]

there's a time and a place for conspiracy theories and this is not the time and not the place.

5 men are dead. 5 families are bereaved, that's the only thing that's important right now.

Can we stop with this nonsense? This is just like people grieving about climbing Everest. You bought a stupid as fuck ticket so you could brag afterwards about how you did XYZ even though it was unnecessarily risky. It didn't work out and you are an asshole for putting your friends and family through this. You won't find the best dad in the world leaving his kids to go do stupid shit that carries a very good chance that he might die. Let alone bring his kid with. People that do this nonsense are narcissistic. I might give a pass to some really old guy but these sorts of people are blowhard assholes high on their own supply.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Titanic sub search: US Navy detected implosion sounds after sub lost contact

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65994405

Funny how these headlines are made days after when they would have been informative.

 

[Dan O]

Can we stop with this nonsense? This is just like people grieving about climbing Everest. You bought a stupid as fuck ticket so you could brag afterwards about how you did XYZ even though it was unnecessarily risky. It didn't work out and you are an asshole for putting your friends and family through this. You won't find the best dad in the world leaving his kids to go do stupid shit that carries a very good chance that he might die. Let alone bring his kid with. People that do this nonsense are narcissistic. I might give a pass to some really old guy but these sorts of people are blowhard assholes high on their own supply.

Very much agreed. Fuck these narcissistic clowns. They did something wildly high risk, and, like they were warned, it didn’t work out, and people died.

I feel bad for the teenager that got drug along on his dads little under water jerk off sesh but the world is no worse off for a few dead thrill seeking billionaires.

 

[Halifax]

Source on distress signal?

google titanic sub distress signal. When the story first broke it was all over

 

[DizzySpells25]

Can we stop with this nonsense? This is just like people grieving about climbing Everest. You bought a stupid as fuck ticket so you could brag afterwards about how you did XYZ even though it was unnecessarily risky. It didn't work out and you are an asshole for putting your friends and family through this. You won't find the best dad in the world leaving his kids to go do stupid shit that carries a very good chance that he might die. Let alone bring his kid with. People that do this nonsense are narcissistic. I might give a pass to some really old guy but these sorts of people are blowhard assholes high on their own supply.

Narcissistic? Always fun holding a mirror to people like you

 

[DizzySpells25]

Very much agreed. Fuck these narcissistic clowns. They did something wildly high risk, and, like they were warned, it didn’t work out, and people died.

I feel bad for the teenager that got drug along on his dads little under water jerk off sesh but the world is no worse off for a few dead thrill seeking billionaires.

I bet you consider empathy a strong trait of yours. you people are all so alike. it's gold