News Titanic Tours Submersible missing in atlantic ocean

[MusterX]

If true, these folks were gone a few days ago and fast.

wonder what all the banging was that the rescuers were hearing..

When the banging was detected I saw a video with some sort of ocean specialist, not sure if it was a biologist or what but he said that the ocean is a loud place and just because sonar picks up a "banging sound" doesn't mean its the sub signaling them. Just as an example, parrot fish ram their heads into coral reefs hard enough to break the coral, it can probably be detected for miles.

 

[syct23]

They wouldn't be holding a press conference to announce they found a bunch of unrelated trash. It imploded.

Well they did say they were going to continue searching the rest of the day for survivors.

I was guessing the press conference was to let the public know the oxygen was gone and they were now switching from search and rescue to a recovery.

but I guess we will find out at the presser what the debris field is from.

 

[The Clinch]

I guess the titan being grounded the last 3 missions because of worries regarding structural fatigue may well be telling.

So the banging could well have been entirely erroneous.

I'm shocked the sound of an implosion wasn't heard.

The implosion probably happened within hours of the initial descent. Quite possibly right when they all lost contact. Now what the rest of the company was doing for 8 hours after losing contact before notifying authorities is another issue.

One would think those on the surface would be listening for anything out of the ordinary, including sounds subsurface, but it appears the whole company was all about being cheap hacks.

 

[MusterX]

Watching that Logitech stock seeing if it's a good time to get in..

I'm using a Logitech g502 mouse right now. I've always had good luck with the reliability of Logitech products.

 

[The Clinch]

I'm using a Logitech g502 mouse right now. I've always had good luck with the reliability of Logitech products.

I don't have that mouse but I basically exclusively buy their.. mice(?) as well.

 

[Henry Swanson]

I watched a clip of that older interview cbs did with the owner and they did a tour of the sun. It was unbelievable. I thought it was a joke at first.

 

[Prefect]

Stockton Rush is dead, and he is the guy most directly responsible.

yesterday I did say in a post :
"I just don't think carbon-fiber is a good material for this application. It's very strong in CERTAIN directions but it can degrade and have weak spots and it CAN shatter too. And it's strength depends on how well it's laid and how well it's baked in an Auto-clave. Making it is not like metal at all -- it requires multiple layers criss-crossed in specific angles to each other etc.
Apparently the cylindrical part of the hull was made from it, apart from the titanium end-cap. The join I think would be an issue and you really don't need lightweight in this application, you need 100% reliable strength and resistance to fatigue, cracking, corrosion, tears in your material etc."

and it seems James Cameron from his post today (assuming it IS him and i'm sure it is) effectively agrees that carbon-fiber is not a material to use for an application like this. Whole thing should have been steel alloy or titanium alloy. Or it may have been the viewing port that failed as it was allegedly not rated to anywhere near this depth of 3800meters.
Anyway, R.I.P. to the dead but it could have been avoided by better design and testing.

The U.S. military dive vehicle from the 60s was nothing more than a big and thick heavy metal vessel that could dive fast.

 

[Randlewand]

I'm sure it's been mentioned already, but due to the class of 'vehicle' the Titan fell under, the submarine builder was able to avoid multiple regulations in place to guarantee a minimal level of safety

This whole thing is pretty fucked. I would personally rather be squashed then suffocating to death

 

[HereticBD]

The implosion probably happened within hours of the initial descent. Quite possibly right when they all lost contact. Now what the rest of the company was doing for 8 hours after losing contact before notifying authorities is another issue.

One would think those on the surface would be listening for anything out of the ordinary, including sounds subsurface, but it appears the whole company was all about being cheap hacks.

It's apparently not the first time it's lost communication with the mother ship on one of these dives, so they might've just been waiting optimistically to link back up. From what I've been reading, it wasn't abnormal for this vessel to run into technical snags during it's dives. Just another warning sign that these guys weren't exactly operating on the most professional of levels.

 

[ralphc1]

It sounds ridicolous but this whole rescue operation is based on the idea the Titan is at or near the surface. Because the capsule is bolted shut the people would still die on the surface thus if they found it they would bash it open. They were never going to attempt to try an underwater rescue operation if the thing was on the bottom of the ocean. The media flat out misled people on that one to sustain the ratings high.

It appears the CEO guy was that dangerous mixture of adrenaline junkie and cost cutting capitalist. There was apparently a small army of whistleblowers warning that the sub wasn't rated for that depth.

It was supposed to have been designed with a fail safe system that would dissolve in seawater after 24 hours and drop the ballast so the vessel would float to the surface.

The design of pressure vessels commonly includes a 10 to 25% safety factor. It seems that this vessel didn't.

 

[Zer]

I'm using a Logitech g502 mouse right now. I've always had good luck with the reliability of Logitech products.

I have the same mouse and it's legit

I love their keyboards and speakers too

Never caused any issues in my submarine

 

[billiam]

Below is a link to an article about the lawsuit filed that challenged his lack of porotype testing. This was all foretold.

https://apnews.com/article/titanic-...it-oceangate-0e5fc9a0313938fdf408b1459538d9ef

See the video in the quote above. It's actually too few regulations that caused the "brilliant innovations that we are witnessing here today."

I wonder why he didn't want to do the scan tests. They can't be that expensive in the grand scheme. It's baffling why he went so cheap on a bespoke piece of equipment where you'd think they'd spare no expense. It makes me suspect OceanGate was possibly hoping to market this cheap submersible design to the general public (rich guys with yachts).

 

[revoltub]

What a depressing situation

 

[K1levelgrappler]

lol

 

[GearSolidMetal]

The US Coast Guard says a debris field has been found near the Titanic as rescuers search for missing submersible Possible implosion.

So are they basically starting to hint that the debris field they found is the sub?

Debris field found by Coast Guard near Titanic.

They wouldn't be holding a press conference to announce they found a bunch of unrelated trash. It imploded.

Earlier in the thread everyone was taking that 'banging on the side of the submarine every 30 minutes as an S.O.S' as true, and it was only a matter of time before the search finds the submarine in tact.

I was the ONLY one of the opinion I though it imploded, they're all dead, and these 'banging' stories are deception used by the media to figure out to keep tens of millions of viewers glued to their TVs.

I'll wait for official confirmation before I gloat.

I'll wait for the confi

 

[IDGETKTFO]

I feel bad for the 19 year old kid. He trusted his dad.

How do you know it wasn't the 19 year old kids idea?

 

[The Clinch]

It's apparently not the first time it's lost communication with the mother ship on one of these dives, so they might've just been waiting optimistically to link back up. From what I've been reading, it wasn't abnormal for this vessel to run into technical snags during it's dives. Just another warning sign that these guys weren't exactly operating on the most professional of levels.

 

[Randlewand]

It was supposed to have been designed with a fail safe system that would dissolve in seawater after 24 hours and drop the ballast so the vessel would float to the surface.

The design of pressure vessels commonly includes a 10 to 25% safety factor. It seems that this vessel didn't.

On a techinicality, the builders were able to avoid regulations that mandated these basic safety measures

 

[Dizzy]

Earlier in the thread everyone was taking that 'banging on the side of the submarine every 30 minutes as an S.O.S' as true, and it was only a matter of time before the search finds the submarine in tact.

I was the ONLY one of the opinion I though it imploded, they're all dead, and these 'banging' stories are deception used by the media to figure out to keep tens of millions of viewers glued to their TVs.

I'll wait for official confirmation before I gloat.

I'll wait for the confi

Shut up, dork.

 

[13Seconds]

How do you know it wasn't the 19 year old kids idea?

Maybe it was. Daddy should've slapped him then.