News Titanic Tours Submersible missing in atlantic ocean

[listrahtes]

From what I have researched military submarines can’t even dive that deep.

If I remember correct the deepest possible manned and unmanned rescue ships can dive to 700m max. They lost contact a little after one and a half hours . A dive to the titanic takes approx 2h to get to 3800m so they should have been well below 2000m at this point. There does not exist anything capable of rescuing them.

Only chance imo is they surfaced and now are basically entombed at the surface. But that doesn't explain the banging sounds if that's even them. I don't even think they will ever be found again. People underestimate how huge the ocean is and with a hull failure we are talking about pieces of a sub.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Agreed except for the banging recorded every 30min on Tuesday.

I'm not quite believing that detail.

Think about it. They don't know where the submarine is, but they have microphones near the Titanic wreckage yet they can hear 'banging?'

It doesn't pass the smell test.

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Has there been any reports of how many of these $250K expeditions down to the Titanic there have been?

Because if there's been dozens they've had a reliable safety record until now. If this is the first with this company & model of submarine.... holy fuck batman.

 

[Brom Bones]

Conquistadors who took their share.

 

[AFanNotAFighter]

Over 100 years later and the Titanic is still taking lives.

 

[BisexualMMA]

Has there been any reports of how many of these $250K expeditions down to the Titanic there have been?

Because if there's been dozens they've had a reliable safety record until now. If this is the first with this company & model of submarine.... holy fuck batman.

I think this was the fourth trip for this piece of junk.

 

[cincymma79]

simply replying to someone else's post dude. that's all.

I’m joking about not being able to crank one out. You have the right guy?

 

[GearSolidMetal]

I think this was the fourth trip for this piece of junk.

That's... amazing.

Anyway, hopefully some laws will be put into place to avoid any more extremely dangerous deep sea tourist expeditions.

Alot has been made about how one of the passengers was a billionaire, but there's been very few mentions that there was a 19 year old kid that is now dead.

Regardless of how many are now dead and their ages, somebody fucked up, and even if that one issue was resolved for future expeditions into the deep sea there'll be a dozen other possible fuck ups that could happen.

 

[RollSonnenRoll]

Being buried alive underwater is one of the most horrible things I can think of but if they made it to the surface and will run out of air being trapped in that damn thing isn't much better. Also, is it hot in the North Atlantic right now? They would have to be just cooking in that thing all day. To actually be on the surface and still not get air would be maddening

 

[Nigelbro]

Anyway, hopefully some laws will be put into place to avoid any more extremely dangerous deep sea tourist expeditions.

1. Strict laws and safety standards already exist in the industry.
2. The whole industry rejected them as irresponsible cowboys.
3. They thumbed their nose at everyone and carried on regardless.

 

[TheWobbler]

So even if they signed the waiver, can any of the families sue because it seems the sub was not fit for purpose?

 

[ICHEERTHEBULL]

I think this was the fourth trip for this piece of junk.

Only the fourth? Doesn’t have a good history in that case

A 2022 mission saw the Titan suffer battery issues that required the ship to be manually attached to a key lifting platform, according to court documents obtained by The New York Times.

Last year, on a visit to the Titanic programme, a CBS News reporter observed the submarine allegedly had “off the shelf components” including lights from Camping World, and that the submarine suffered communications issue with the ship overseeing its voyage and was lost for nearly three hours under water

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ine-oceangate-safety-complaints-b2361241.html

 

[SakurabasEar]

Only the fourth? Doesn’t have a good history in that case



https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ine-oceangate-safety-complaints-b2361241.html

One of the passengers on the base ship from an earlier dive stated they lost communication and navigation to the Titan for over 5 hours, and it was never even reported

Perhaps that's why they waited 8 hours to tell the Canadian or American navy/coast guard. They thought is was like that other shitty attempt. Smh

 

[High Test With da Best]

Yea, plus don't they have to decompress from that depth? Pulling them up fast because they are running out of oxygen could kill them couldn't it?

Yeah, they could get the benz.
Nitrogen build up in the blood.

I'm no dive expert, but I know this is not true when inside a craft that remains at surface level atmospheric pressure of 15ish psi

So even if they signed the waiver, can any of the families sue because it seems the sub was not fit for purpose?

How did Washington State justify supplying them with what ever type of operators licensing they require? Assuming they require one as a transportation company of a sort. Anyone know about this aspect, because it seems like a massive oversight or the company paid massive kickbacks to the right transportation authority employee(s)

*edit*
Or they circumvent the need by operating outside state/national waters, but still, they are doing commerce in the state

 

[ICHEERTHEBULL]

A German adventurer who paid to see the wreck of the Titanic on the missing Titan submarine two years ago has called the voyage a 'suicide mission'.


Arthur Loibl, 60, dove the 12,500 feet to the Atlantic ocean wreck site in August 2021, and says he was 'incredibly lucky' to survive.

His story echos much that has been learned about the OceanGate tourist vessel since it vanished into the abyss on Sunday, with past reports highlighting how many components were purchased off-the-shelf. It has also been revealed to have been uncertified to dive to the necessary depths to reach the famous Titanic wreckage.

Speaking to German tabloid Bild, Loibl recalls that the first submarine they tried didn't work, that a second attempted dive had to be abandoned, parts fell off, and that his mission went into the water five hours late due to electrical problems.

The first submarine didn't work, then a dive at 1600 meters had to be abandoned. My mission was the 5th, but we also went into the water five hours late due to electrical problems,' he recounts to the publication.

Shortly before the sub was launched, Loibl says the bracket of the stabilisation tube - used to provide balance as the craft descends into the depths fell off the vessel.

'That was reattached with zip ties. That didn't worry me,' he tells Bild.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...wreck-2021-says-incredibly-lucky-make-it.html

 

[GearSolidMetal]

1. Strict laws and safety standards already exist in the industry.
2. The whole industry rejected them as irresponsible cowboys.
3. They thumbed their nose at everyone and carried on regardless.

'Strict laws' aren't strict unless they're strictly enforced.

 

[Nigelbro]

'Strict laws' aren't strict unless they're strictly enforced.

People drive cars with no licence, registration and insurance every day of the week.

That’s these guys. They got caught on the fifth attempt and it’s killed an innocent father & son.

 

[ModernMatt]

if the haul didn't break and everything is intact...then hundreds (or thousands) of years from now, their bodies can be discovered and cloned...their body won't discompose and would be well preserved

 

[TheWobbler]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...wreck-2021-says-incredibly-lucky-make-it.html

Wow lol.

 

[Red Dragoniop]

hope they brought plenty of lunchables

 

[Doughie99]

I'm no dive expert, but I know this is not true when inside a craft that remains at surface level atmospheric pressure of 15ish psi


How did Washington State justify supplying them with what ever type of operators licensing they require? Assuming they require one as a transportation company of a sort. Anyone know about this aspect, because it seems like a massive oversight or the company paid massive kickbacks to the right transportation authority employee(s)

*edit*
Or they circumvent the need by operating outside state/national waters, but still, they are doing commerce in the state

@MusterX @StonedLemur @High Test With da Best
High Test -- you're right.
The sub can be brought up as fast as they want (unless there's some damage to it that is unusual or endangering) as the interior is pressurized to 1 atmosphere so nobody is experiencing anything other than sea-level air-pressure of 14.7psi. -- no occupant's body has been subjected to anything more than normal air pressure. (as long as it hasn't got a crack or leak in which case they die instantly).

So no danger of the bends (nitrogen narcosis) ASSUMING that the hull is still intact etc.
Divers going down 100ft or 150ft (scuba-divers) DO have to be careful on ascent as their bodies have been under huge water pressure during their dive. That's what dive-computers are used for -- to tell you when you have to go topside and how SLOW you must go to avoid nitrogen narcosis (nitrogen bubbles in the bloodstream, can cause death or paralysis).

My big concern is ....is there ANY asset on-site which can bring the damn Titan up if/when it's found intact? Another sub OR this FODASS equipment but that's too far away and very little time left.

Finding the sub is one thing, but what good is that if there's no way to attach a cable or have another vehicle TOW IT to the surface?