News Titanic Tours Submersible missing in atlantic ocean

[Bojka]

James Cameron comes across as an insufferable douchebag. I guess I never noticed. The rest of the media coverage has been decent (outside of the oxygen countdown on one of those new news sites). Experts made it clear that chances of survival were slim, but many people already knew it wasn’t going to be a great outcome. Sure, I get the talk about it being overblown (it was), yet we haven’t had a similar story that I can remember.

RIP to those lost. Clearly, as has been reported, the 19 year old…I just don’t know what to say. He wanted to be there for his father. The people in charge should’ve stepped in, really.

Stockton Rush is dead; there won’t be a grand indictment, litigation or some form of justice. From the videos of him — the ones that were running all week — it appeared that he was someone who cared a great deal about ‘legacy’, and he saw himself as some sort of crusader, being a catalyst for innovation, adventure and the future. How much of that was marketing bollocks? It could be a lot of what we saw from him, at least in video form. Still, his legacy is much, much darker now. Not only did he reach the national consciousness, he was an international new story.

We don’t know everything. I don’t want to condemn him outright, but it isn’t looking good.

Yeah he was talking in more than one interview about how he designed his own submersible with an engineer he hired... like they were partners or something. Like... you're a filmmaker. Being loaded and hiring some people to design you something and giving input based on multiple choice selections they provided for you (would you prefer this option or that one) doesn't make you some engineering expert. It's almost comical.

 

[ModernMatt]

The whole billionaires going to space thing is also gonna take a hit. Folks with 3 commas are going to rethink these so called once-in-a-lifetime adventures.

They should stick to drinking Dos Comas tequila

 

[13Seconds]

Yeah he was talking in more than one interview about how he designed his own submersible with an engineer he hired... like they were partners or something. Like... you're a filmmaker. Being loaded and hiring some people to design you something and giving input based on multiple choice selections they provided for you (would you prefer this option or that one) doesn't make you some engineering expert. It's almost comical.

He's not only a filmmaker. Not anymore.

In 2012 he became the first human to reach earths deepest abyss alone, and the only one to explore it in depth.

Imagine being alone in this thing. He's a filmmaker and a world class deep sea pioneer. He has room to speak on the matter imo.

 

[TTech]

Yeah he was talking in more than one interview about how he designed his own submersible with an engineer he hired... like they were partners or something. Like... you're a filmmaker. Being loaded and hiring some people to design you something and giving input based on multiple choice selections they provided for you (would you prefer this option or that one) doesn't make you some engineering expert. It's almost comical.

hes been down 30 or 40 times. In interviews him and people around him always told how anal he is about everything, every little detail, every material , everything, just like he is on set. So you can bet your life he knows more or less everything that is to know about deep sea diving, since hes been doing it for 30 freakin years. Being a douchbag doesnt detract from that.

 

[Cyrano200]

That deformation would've been normal though and not associated with failure. They wouldn't need to tie a string to freak out the newbies if it would just start cracking normally.

But we did anyway. A submarine is filled with machines, including ventilation constantly running in every space, so there is a lot of ambient noise. (*note there is considerable effort to ensure these sounds aren't transmitted outside the hull.) A newbie (we called them "nubs") wouldn't necessarily hear / notice anything on a normal dive. More experienced submariners could differentiate.

Funny how these headlines are made days after when they would have been informative.

My educated guess is that they don't want the information about the capacity to detect those sounds released to the world. Our geopolitical adversaries (US Navy's) could possibly deduce information about locations, sensitivity, ranges, and any number of other details based on knowing where the Titan went down and the probable acoustic traits of it's implosion. I'm sure there were many phone calls up the chain-of-command prior to they decided to release that nugget.

 

[BisexualMMA]

Yeah he was talking in more than one interview about how he designed his own submersible with an engineer he hired... like they were partners or something. Like... you're a filmmaker. Being loaded and hiring some people to design you something and giving input based on multiple choice selections they provided for you (would you prefer this option or that one) doesn't make you some engineering expert. It's almost comical.

Hollywood is full of assholes who claim to be experts in everything from public policy to every social science to epidemiology...but James Cameron is a legitimate genius.

 

[Bojka]

Hollywood is full of assholes who claim to be experts in everything from public policy to every social science to epidemiology...but James Cameron is a legitimate genius.

The people who design these things are 50 year old white men who have been working in this capacity full time for their entire adult lives. They also have a particular aptitude for it.

Perhaps I minimized Cameron's role. I looked it up and he did have some say in how the cockpit was designed. I guess he was making movies down there and he had to inform them on what was necessary in that regard. But there is absolutely no way he was advising the Australian engineering firm he hired on what to do. He wouldn't have been dumb enough to get in the thing if he did.

 

[cincymma79]

It’s sad and all but those people have never been closer

 

[Jack Reacheround]

Hollywood is full of assholes who claim to be experts in everything from public policy to every social science to epidemiology...but James Cameron is a legitimate genius.

Cameron is actually considered one of the world’s foremost historical experts on the Titanic.

 

[FyrFytr998]

Damn, Cameron saying he knew the search was a charade by Monday.

We got psyoped by the media again.

 

[PBAC]

wow ... it was literally found in the exact place they lost track of it. Ridiculous.

 

[CyberRubberDuck]

Technically we came from the Ocean…

Technically you have absolutely zero idea that's even slightly true. You just kind of technically believe it is.

 

[BisexualMMA]

wow ... it was literally found in the exact place they lost track of it. Ridiculous.

Kinda seems they could have sent the rover down from those coordinates immediately, seen the wreckage and reported it...but instead this multi day ratings shitshow with some spooky ghost banging pots and pans below the sea every 30 minutes.

 

[Nigelbro]

People tend to feel things are safe to do if others are doing it and have done it without incident.

Apart from the multiple incidents.

 

[chimpoehurricane]

He may of married her cause he’s really into blink 182 and only fans like her son and he wanted to hang

 

[syct23]

Technically you have absolutely zero idea that's even slightly true. You just kind of technically believe it is.

Technically, we came from stardust first…

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Damn, Cameron saying he knew the search was a charade by Monday.

Thank you for posting this.

In addition to Cameron's views on the situation, we now have reasoning why the submarine didn't implode on its other dives.

'Cycling fatigue' namely of it carbon fiber shielding. As he said that doesn't happen with steel.

 

[CyberRubberDuck]

A wired controller would require a port to pass through the hull which becomes a problem to keep sealed at high pressure.

Sikaflex works great. Or 3m 5200 above and below.
I'd have gone for the N64 controller myself.

 

[emefer]

Sikaflex works great. Or 3m 5200 above and below.
I'd have gone for the N64 controller myself.

There’s a whole family of flex seal products that could be used.

 

[CyberRubberDuck]

Technically, we came from stardust first…

'stardust' definition is open to interpretation I guess.

There’s a whole family of flex seal products that could be used.

Got to use the good stuff though. To cope with those pressures