News Titanic Tours Submersible missing in atlantic ocean

[RollSonnenRoll]

actually....thinking about it...I believe they DID know the hull was starting to fail.
2 bits of info on this :
1) there were reports of a "mayday" signal sent topside on Sunday morning before all comms were lost. I read that in several places online.
2) an ocean rescue guy (a Mr Mearns?) on Skynews.com said today that the implosion happened on ASCENT. somehow he knows that. Maybe he has seen the "mayday" message or something, because he definitely said on ASCENT. So ...that sounds like they realized shit was going wrong and started to ascend fast but it was too late and the hull imploded.

so....those two bits of info lead me to think that the 5 men KNEW that things had gone very wrong. The end would have been super-quick and painless but....i think they knew the hull was creaking or about to fail.

I have no idea how he’d know that it happened on the ascent unless they have a way of tracking it that was previously unreleased

The distress message certainly does indicate some kind of issue though and they were aware

 

[Randlewand]

Don’t doubt it.

Seem to recall a far worse Russian submarine disaster 20 odd years ago, where their arrogance and failure to accept help cost them 100s of men.

*This might have been a film.

Not from a movie, but actually happened. Same with the US

 

[Sweater of AV]

Well, that's an unfortunate ending. RIP. Very stupid endeavor.

 

[LEWIS540]

Not from a movie, but actually happened. Same with the US

Fucking Yanks/Russkies.

 

[KnightTemplar]

Don’t doubt it.

Seem to recall a far worse Russian submarine disaster 20 odd years ago, where their arrogance and failure to accept help cost them 100s of men.

*This might have been a film.

The Kursk. A nuclear powered submarine of the Russian Navy. It sank on 12 August 2000, after an explosion caused by HTP that leaked from a torpedo. The British and Norwegian navies offered to assist any rescue attempts, but were rebuffed by the Russians.

The Russians claimed that the entire crew died within minutes of the explosion. That was later proven to be false; 24 sailors made it into a sealed compartment within the sub, but eventually suffocated to death.

Putin, when asked during an interview what happened to the Kursk, infamously replied, "It sank".

 

[WaylonMercy5150]

They should have tested the sub out with people with less money first

 

[Adamant]

It's 2023. How can we not find this thing?

 

[Bojka]

Yeah that's the only consoling development in all of this, that they died instantly. A friend of the men onboard says they would died in miliseconds; they wouldn't even realize what was happening.

As they were descending , as the pressure got higher and higher, wouldn't there have been sounds of the structure cracking? So wouldn't they come to the realization the vessel was going to break-up?

I doubt it would have audibly cracked before failing. At the point it's cracking it would have imploded instantly I assume before the sound could even get to their ears. I mean perhaps they would have heard something immediately before they died but I assume they would've been out like a light just from the impact.

 

[Randlewand]

I wonder if the company was under some sort of financial or time cruch, so they launched without any sort of preparedness. Its just so dumb

 

[emefer]

Thats what I was thinking especially for the father and son. Its like Kobe and his daughter, instant death. Sad but better then suffering and knowing that you and your child are going to die.

That’s would have been quite the scene as the son didn’t want to go according to the sister but did it for fathers day cause his dad was obsessed with the titanic.

 

[Brandon Wilson]

Yeah that's the only consoling development in all of this, that they died instantly. A friend of the men onboard says they would died in miliseconds; they wouldn't even realize what was happening.

As they were descending , as the pressure got higher and higher, wouldn't there have been sounds of the structure cracking? So wouldn't they come to the realization the vessel was going to break-up?

Knowing what I know about carbon fiber bikes, probably not. When carbon fiber fails, it usually gives no signs of anything being wrong, and just crumbles. It would have happened so fast under that immense pressure, they would have had no warning most likely.

 

[BigDeadFreak]

I still don't understand why those billionaires are just lying there at the bottom of the ocean, waiting to be rescued. Why don't they just pull themselves up by their bootstraps?

 

[Doughie99]

I have no idea how he’d know that it happened on the ascent unless they have a way of tracking it that was previously unreleased

The distress message certainly does indicate some kind of issue though and they were aware

maybe the text messages that were (automatically? manually?) generated every 15mins included CURRENT DEPTH info as standard. So...if so....maybe one said "3500meters depth" and next one said "3300meters depth" and that obviously meant that they had changed direction and were now ASCENDING now rather than DESCENDING. It mnight be that Mr Rush simply typed out a text message each 15mins.
I'd like to know what those messages said. But Mearns definitely said the vehicle was lost on ASCENT.

apparently text messages was about the only form of comms that worked at that depth, back to the mother ship.

 

[Nigelbro]

I still don't understand why those billionaires are just lying there at the bottom of the ocean, waiting to be rescued. Why don't they just pull themselves up by their bootstraps?

Trickle down rescue operation

 

[Randlewand]

Ironically enough the Titanic was discovered during a mission to locate the also failed USS Scorpion. 100 men died when the sub sank

 

[Fijeeto]

Yeah, if the bluetooth goes out down there you have zero recourse for piloting that thing. You are literally dead in the water. Even if full power doesn't go out, but just bluetooth does, you are dead.

That's what my wife and I were discussing last night. We sometimes have trouble connecting our phones to her car stereo, so why the hell would you trust bluetooth to pilot a submersible at the bottom of the sea?

If you're going to skimp on the control method, at least get a wired controller.

 

[Nigelbro]

Ironically enough the Titanic was discovered during a mission to locate the also failed USS Scorpion. 100 men died when the sub sank

103 if you count the blokes who made Conor McGregor’s suit.

 

[Randlewand]

The more I think about this, the more I wonder what the hell these guys were thinking

 

[Bojka]

My first posts in this thread which weren't until page 9 or 10 or somewhere around there also were of the "it imploded" thought line. I mean, they didn't surface, they didn't release the ballast, they didn't release any sort of GPS transponder. It seems pretty likely the hull breached, but yea, its a sad way to go considering it was something done just because it would be "cool to see the Titanic wreckage."

I'm wondering if the danger/uncertainty of it was part of the appeal for these thrill seekers. Most people just watch horror movies... much safer.

 

[MicroBrew]

Knowing what I know about carbon fiber bikes, probably not. When carbon fiber fails, it usually gives no signs of anything being wrong, and just crumbles. It would have happened so fast under that immense pressure, they would have had no warning most likely.

Yeah I had read that about carbon fibre that it just shatters / dintegrates.

I doubt it would have audibly cracked before failing. At the point it's cracking it would have imploded instantly I assume before the sound could even get to their ears. I mean perhaps they would have heard something immediately before they died but I assume they would've been out like a light just from the impact.

The acrylic window would have told them the vessel was going to implode.

Below quote from comments Stockton Rush made to a Mexican actor

'It’s acrylic – plexiglass,' Rush tells Estrada after being asked what the window mounted at the front of the Titan vessel is made of.

'It is seven inches thick and weighs about 80lbs. And when we go to the Titanic, it will squeeze in about three-quarters of an inch and just deforms,' he explains.

'And acrylic is great because before it cracks or fails, it starts to crackle so you get a huge warning if it’s going to fail.'

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