Tips for opening the closed guard in no gi?

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  1. snoop dogg***

    snoop dogg*** Baby Heath goon$quad

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    Ive been working on opening closed guard in my no gi game more. Not that I have a hard time with it, Its just I feel like I want to take more technical approaches to it. anyone have any tips? My knowledge is much wider for opening the closed guard in the GI than in no gi
     
  2. Nuclearlandmine

    Nuclearlandmine Shreddin' Double Yellow Card

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    wrong board?
     
  3. snoop dogg***

    snoop dogg*** Baby Heath goon$quad

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    sorry fixed
     
  4. Ice 9 Cobra

    Ice 9 Cobra Black Belt

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    Stand up, reach back and pop the hook off with your arm. Tozi pass if you want to stay on your knees.
     
  5. Dedication

    Dedication White Belt

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    Look up the old-school pass. You slide their arm under their back, while bringing the knee up, and hopefully, get the pass. Try standing passes. It's the hardest part of the game, it's not really going to have a straight answer.
     
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    dan halen Blue Belt

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  7. TheHereticJay

    TheHereticJay I scoff at your belt rankings

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    One I like for a last resort is keeping good posture then hiding both my hands behind my back to fiddle with their feet. Normally this'll get them to try a hip bump sweep, as soon as them feet open one elbow to the knee and the other for the underhook. Pass. Granted it's not the safest guard break, but it's there as a last resort if you're just stuck.
     
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    Difeco Blue Belt

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    type on youtube:

    "dean lister open guard no gi"
     
  9. yer man

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    see Marcelo Garcia ADCC2011
     
  10. Ice 9 Cobra

    Ice 9 Cobra Black Belt

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    I would only do that from standing, you need space otherwise you're going to get guillotined all day
     
  11. cms9690

    cms9690 Green Belt

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    Standing pass like others have said or if you don't care for the person you could grind your elbow into their leg until you have enough room to pass a knee, but honestly I feel like it's a cop out compared to actually using technique to pass the guard.
     
  12. BJJArsenal

    BJJArsenal Brown Belt

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    jump on to your feet

    if they try to underhook a leg then turn that knee inside and open their legs using closed elbows
     
  13. snoop dogg***

    snoop dogg*** Baby Heath goon$quad

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    Im actually looking for more passes drom the knees. not so much standing up. I dont really have problems passing and opening the guard no gi, I just feel that i use alot more strength and pressure when passing no gi. Im looking for a more technical route to add
     
  14. FIGHTING TALK

    FIGHTING TALK Brown Belt

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    Why are you asking for tips if you are already so good at opening the guard?

    The answer is right there for you, pass standing. It's far higher percentage, all the top grapplers are doing it; Marcelo, Popovitch, Kron, Rafa, Galvao, lister etc etc.

    Why the fixation with passing on the knees? It's massively inferior.
     
  15. Kozbot

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    Pablo Popovitch nogi DVD is great.
     
  16. rawpower

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    If you want to stay on your knees you need to build posture, put one knee in their butt, push back with your hips to open their guard.

    Then stand up and pass.
     
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  18. yer man

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    Why stay on your knees? There is nothing good for you there, its only good for him. Stand up to pass, use the knowledge others have gathered from experience.
     
  19. fry_ed

    fry_ed Yellow Belt

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    tozi pass can be a good one if you are more of an upper-body person.

    I've had a ton of success for years with a variation of the tozi pass: the "justin garcia chim pass"
     
  20. hell wall

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    first step is keeping your hands pressed against your foe's hips with your elbows digging into their inner thigh area,keep an errect posture,flare the elbows into the thigh area to create pain/discomfort,then place one of your knees in the center of your foe's buttocks region..this should open the guard ,,then you can impliment any pass you want from there,,i like to pin one leg with my knee and underhook the other leg so i can pass to either side!!
     

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