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[Deleted member 429453]

No, it's not. 30,000 is a huge number. Much of the Muslim world is living in abject poverty. They don't all have the means to up and travel to Syria to join ISIS.

'There's a lot more worldwide nazis' Then these Neo-Nazis would be committing the majority of the world's terror attacks. They aren't.

The fear USA has over Isis is way out of proportion to the actual threat Isis cause, in Europe we are not scared of Isis in the same rabid way USA is, Isis hasn't even caused an atrocity in USA as far as I know to current date. 9/11 wasn't Isis

 

[freakyfarley]

That's a straw-man argument. No one said anything about 'most' Muslims. Nevertheless, violence and regressive ideas are still quite popular within the Muslim world.

Support for Sharia

% of Muslims who favor making Sharia the official law in their country

Russia - 42%
Kosovo - 20%
Bosnia - 15%
Albania - 12%

Kyrgyzstan - 35%
Tajikistan - 27%
Turkey - 12%
Kazakhstan - 10%
Azerbaijan - 8%

Malaysia - 86%
Thailand - 77%
Indonesia - 72%
Afghanistan - 99%
Pakistan - 84%
Bangladesh - 82%

Iraq - 91%
Palestine - 89%
Morocco - 83%
Egypt - 74%
Jordan - 71%
Tunisia - 56%
Lebanon - 29%

Niger - 86%
Djibouti - 82%
Congo - 74%
Nigeria - 71%
Uganda - 66%
Ethiopia - 65%
Mozambique - 65%
Kenya - 64%
Mali - 63%
Ghana - 58%
Senegal - 53%
Cameroon - 53%
Liberia - 52%
Chad - 47%
Guinea Bissau - 47%
Tanzania - 37%

...

Wide Agreement that Certain Behaviors are Morally Wrong

Median % of Muslims who say each behavior is morally wrong

Homosexuality:
Southern-Eastern Europe
83%

Central Asia
85%

Southeast Asia
95%

South Asia
79%

Middle East-North Africa
93%

Sub-Saharan Africa
91%

...

Attitudes Towards Women's Rights

Median % of Muslims who completely or mostly agree...

'A wife must obey her husband'

Southern-Eastern Europe
43%

Southeast Asia
93%

Central Asia
70%

South Asia
88%

Middle East-North Africa
87%

...

Support for Suicide Bombing

% of Muslims who say suicide bombing in defense of Islam is...

'Often/sometimes justified'

Bosnia - 3%
Albania - 6%
Russia - 4%
Kosovo - 11%

Azerbaijan - 1%
Kazakhstan - 2%
Tajikistan - 3%
Kyrgyzstan - 10%
Turkey - 15%

Indonesia - 7%
Malaysia - 18%

Pakistan - 13%
Bangladesh - 26%
Afghanistan - 39%

Iraq - 7%
Tunisia - 12%
Jordan - 15%
Morocco - 9%
Egypt - 29%
Palestine - 40%

Numbers like 40% are outrageous, but that's to be expected from the islamofascist Palestine, one of the most fundamentalist Muslim quasi-nations on the planet. The real shocker is that there is still double digit support for suicide bombing among South-Eastern European and Central Asian Muslims. Even just the 3% in Bosnia is ridiculous, much less the 11% in Kosovo, or the 15% in Turkey that say suicide bombing is often/sometimes justified. These numbers indicate that the further away you get from the origin of Islam, the less extreme your views become, but they will still be somewhat extreme relative to the rest of the non-Muslim population.

...

'Stop being so PC' stop misusing terminology.

azerbeijan is winning the polling contest

 

[Deleted member 429453]

Irrelevant. If two Christians fight in the street, that doesn't make it a Christian fight. The Barbary wars were characterized as Muslim terror because the Barbary pirates expressed that they were killing and enslaving American men abroad because they refused to acknowledge Islam's prowess.



The numbers do matter, just not the numbers you're thinking of. The Muslim adult male population, specifically, makes up less than 1%. The fact that this infinitesimal group commits a fraction of the crime is to be expected.

You have failed to recognise that amount of atrocities committed by non Muslims is massively relevant to a discussion about atrocities caused by Muslims
It's called balance and context

 

[Coolidge]

The fear USA has over Isis is way out of proportion to the actual threat Isis cause, in Europe we are not scared of Isis in the same rabid way USA is, Isis hasn't even caused an atrocity in USA as far as I know to current date. 9/11 wasn't Isis

Within the last couple of years, Muslim terrorists have blown up an airport, downed an airplane full of people, and murdered 140+ in France, among other crimes in Europe. Worry less about the bogeyman of the 'Nazis' and more about the group that's actually doing damage to your countries.

 

[freakyfarley]

That's a straw-man argument. No one said anything about 'most' Muslims. Nevertheless, violence and regressive ideas are still quite popular within the Muslim world.

Support for Sharia

% of Muslims who favor making Sharia the official law in their country

Russia - 42%
Kosovo - 20%
Bosnia - 15%
Albania - 12%

Kyrgyzstan - 35%
Tajikistan - 27%
Turkey - 12%
Kazakhstan - 10%
Azerbaijan - 8%

Malaysia - 86%
Thailand - 77%
Indonesia - 72%
Afghanistan - 99%
Pakistan - 84%
Bangladesh - 82%

Iraq - 91%
Palestine - 89%
Morocco - 83%
Egypt - 74%
Jordan - 71%
Tunisia - 56%
Lebanon - 29%

Niger - 86%
Djibouti - 82%
Congo - 74%
Nigeria - 71%
Uganda - 66%
Ethiopia - 65%
Mozambique - 65%
Kenya - 64%
Mali - 63%
Ghana - 58%
Senegal - 53%
Cameroon - 53%
Liberia - 52%
Chad - 47%
Guinea Bissau - 47%
Tanzania - 37%

...

Wide Agreement that Certain Behaviors are Morally Wrong

Median % of Muslims who say each behavior is morally wrong

Homosexuality:
Southern-Eastern Europe
83%

Central Asia
85%

Southeast Asia
95%

South Asia
79%

Middle East-North Africa
93%

Sub-Saharan Africa
91%

...

Attitudes Towards Women's Rights

Median % of Muslims who completely or mostly agree...

'A wife must obey her husband'

Southern-Eastern Europe
43%

Southeast Asia
93%

Central Asia
70%

South Asia
88%

Middle East-North Africa
87%

...

Support for Suicide Bombing

% of Muslims who say suicide bombing in defense of Islam is...

'Often/sometimes justified'

Bosnia - 3%
Albania - 6%
Russia - 4%
Kosovo - 11%

Azerbaijan - 1%
Kazakhstan - 2%
Tajikistan - 3%
Kyrgyzstan - 10%
Turkey - 15%

Indonesia - 7%
Malaysia - 18%

Pakistan - 13%
Bangladesh - 26%
Afghanistan - 39%

Iraq - 7%
Tunisia - 12%
Jordan - 15%
Morocco - 9%
Egypt - 29%
Palestine - 40%

Numbers like 40% are outrageous, but that's to be expected from the islamofascist Palestine, one of the most fundamentalist Muslim quasi-nations on the planet. The real shocker is that there is still double digit support for suicide bombing among South-Eastern European and Central Asian Muslims. Even just the 3% in Bosnia is ridiculous, much less the 11% in Kosovo, or the 15% in Turkey that say suicide bombing is often/sometimes justified. These numbers indicate that the further away you get from the origin of Islam, the less extreme your views become, but they will still be somewhat extreme relative to the rest of the non-Muslim population.

...

'Stop being so PC' stop misusing terminology.

source btw

 

[Coolidge]

You have failed to recognise that amount of atrocities committed by non Muslims is massively relevant to a discussion about atrocities caused by Muslims
It's called balance and context

It's not massively relevant to the discussion, actually. The overwhelming majority of people in the United States are non-Muslim. Muslims don't have the numbers to commit the majority of the crime here, even if they were inclined to. Despite their small size, Muslims still hold the record for the deadliest terrorist attack in this country's history.

 

[Deleted member 429453]

Within the last couple of years, Muslim terrorists have blown up an airport, downed an airplane full of people, and murdered 140+ in France, among other crimes in Europe. Worry less about the bogeyman of the 'Nazis' and more about the group that's actually doing damage to your countries.

None of which happened in USA
And like I said, check out how many people have been murdered by non Muslim atrocities in USA. In USA you are a lot more Likely to be killed by a white Christian than a Muslim, and infact more likely to be killed by a cop

 

[DevilsLettuce]

You have failed to recognise that amount of atrocities committed by non Muslims is massively relevant to a discussion about atrocities caused by Muslims
It's called balance and context

lol. They're raping all your women and invading the continent and your silly ass wants to roll out the red carpet for a bunch of people who want to kill you and outbreed you and take control of the whole fucking planet.

Why exactly do you feel the need to defend people who hate you and want to overrun you? Do you regard all human life as equal and valuable? Its not.

 

[Coolidge]

source btw

Pew Forum: The World's Muslims: Religion, Politics and Society.

Even the 'good percentages' are only good relative to how bad the others are.

 

[Deleted member 429453]

It's not massively relevant to the discussion, actually. The overwhelming majority of people in the United States are non-Muslim. Muslims don't have the numbers to commit the majority of the crime here, even if they were inclined to. Despite their small size, Muslims still hold the record for the deadliest terrorist attack in this country's history.

You are referring to 9/11 which is one mass atrocity attack.

Now add up all the non Muslim
Atrocities and school shootings etc

Even if you just include the last 20 years

 

[freakyfarley]

Pew Forum: The World's Muslims: Religion, Politics and Society.

Even the 'good percentages' are only good relative to how bad the others are.

Your cited study is a forum poll?

 

[Coolidge]

None of which happened in USA
And like I said, check out how many people have been murdered by non Muslim atrocities in USA. In USA you are a lot more Likely to be killed by a white Christian than a Muslim, and infact more likely to be killed by a cop

Which is why I highlighted 'in Europe'.

There are less Muslims for us to deal with and we thankfully don't share a border with islamofascist countries.

'you are a lot more likely...' I've already been over that.

 

[Deleted member 429453]

lol. They're raping all your women and invading the continent and your silly ass wants to roll out the red carpet for a bunch of people who want to kill you and outbreed you and take control of the whole fucking planet.

Why exactly do you feel the need to defend people who hate you and want to overrun you? Do you regard all human life as equal and valuable? Its not.

"Raping your women?"
"Invading the continent"?

No this really isn't happening lol

You been watching some Sci fi fantasy

 

[Coolidge]

Your cited study is a forum poll?

My goodness. It's the Pew Research Center, not a 'forum' in the sense of a message board.

 

[Deleted member 429453]

Which is why I highlighted 'in Europe'.

There are less Muslims for us to deal with and we thankfully don't share a border with islamofascist countries.

'you are a lot more likely...' I've already been over that.

Why aren't you scared about being randomly killed by a white Christian with a gun? That's a lot lot lot more likely to affect you and any other random person in USA

 

[Coolidge]

You are referring to 9/11 which is one mass atrocity attack.

Now add up all the non Muslim
Atrocities and school shootings etc

Even if you just include the last 20 years

You're repeating the same erroneous argument. My response:

'The overwhelming majority of people in the United States are non-Muslim. Muslims don't have the numbers to commit the majority of the crime here, even if they were inclined to.'

Yes, 9/11 was one mass atrocity. Muslim terrorists have the capacity to kill 3000 in the span of 24 hours. No other terrorist group does this.

 

[Deleted member 429453]

To all you fearful scared Americans I love you bwhaha the world ain't so scary as you think

 

[DevilsLettuce]

"Raping your women?"
"Invading the continent"?

No this really isn't happening lol

You been watching some Sci fi fantasy

gonna answer my questions?

 

[Deleted member 429453]

You're repeating the same erroneous argument. My response:

'The overwhelming majority of people in the United States are non-Muslim. Muslims don't have the numbers to commit the majority of the crime here, even if they were inclined to.'

Yes, 9/11 was one mass atrocity. Muslim terrorists have the capacity to kill 3000 in the span of 24 hours. No other terrorist group does this.

You are not addressing my points, you are standing there trying to bat them away, because admitting it means you have to stop hating Muslims, that causes fear in you, it's easier to just hate someone and blame them
For the the problems in the world

By your logic you should be really scared of white guys with guns, especially if they are young and been bullied at school

 

[Coolidge]

Why aren't you scared about being randomly killed by a white Christian with a gun? That's a lot lot lot more likely to affect you and any other random person in USA

That's a non-argument. I could pose a similar question: Why aren't you scared of car crashes considering you're more likely to die from that than a white Christian?'. It's an intellectually dishonest argument that Muslim apologists use often. Being concerned about Islam doesn't preclude me from being concerned about other forms of terrorism, by the way.