Discussion in 'UFC Discussion' started by Londonjitsu, Aug 25, 2020.
He will never be Conor he needs to give it up.
O'malley is a 3 x bigger POS though.
I'll bite. How is breaking a guys leg with a leg kick a fluke win? Okay, he may not have broken O'Malley's leg ... but judging by the crying in pain/carried off on stretcher aspect it looked like his leg was broken worse than Anderson's was against The Chris
Give him two more top 10's and then when he's on a 0-3 run let him go to Bellator so he can actually contend for a belt
Have to diaagree as far as skills yes wins and loses dont tell the full story but the wins and loses are the end result of the the training and everything else. Wins and loses have to define fighters legacy or else it just becomes what people wanna watch, and total opinion. Most want to see striking so they will easily discount skills on the ground or favor a more fun fighter over a more solid but maybe less paced fighters.
You make valid points and I don't disagree. I reckon the point I was making when I posted was a bit more nuanced, or perhaps I'm just a moron that tried to argue that wins and losses don't matter lol Anyway thanks for treading lightly on me and being cordial with your dissension. Wins and losses are ultimately an important and objective metric when trying to discuss legacies (controversial decisions aside).
Hey, we can disagree but i dont think we are far off. I also totally get your point many people see just wins and loses. Be it a guy going on a streak against solid but not world class fighters and people hype them up to be championship level doesnt mean they cant get better just that at that point they are not there yet.
Just like certain fighters going on a losing streak and people wanna write them off even though they are fighting the best, damage is real though so its a little bit weird your skills can get better but your body also takes damage over a career and reflexes start to decrease. I agree wins and loses are not everything but they matter most imo for deciding legacy, there are a lot of very talented fighters who just cant put it together for one reason or another. Its a important metric but i i think too that thats one metric. Titles, defenses but also skills and even heart.
lmao not only is that hilarious but it's completely true and probably the reason he was saying it
I know what you mean about taking damage but improving -- I reckon it's similar to those that may improve their sense of hearing, feel, and smell after losing their vision haha
It’s the surrounding drama around the losses that make Till qualified to lecture about losing, he was expected to make a huge splash. It’s no knock on him, just saying...
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