Tiger Woods is back!!!!!!!!

computer fogie said:
Yeah, it is debatable. Jones' had little competiton in his era, golf just wasn't as popular then. Nelson benefitted from playing in the WWII era, his huge season was 1945. Hogan IMO was possibly the best claimant for the GOAT title besides Tiger.
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How is it debatable? You can't argue that the level of competition back in the days, was anywhere close of where it is today... In 2006, Tiger won 7 tournaments in a row (in 2000 he won 6 in row...) and this isn’t tennis, where the best always win. It’s super rare that someone wins two tournaments in a row. And like Fogie said, Byron Nelson’s record from 1945 was highly influenced by the absence of many top players. So considering that Tiger played in the era of Mickelson, Vijay, Mcllroy, Garcia, Adam Scott, Leonard, Rose, Duval & Els, here are some of his achievements during this period:

- Woods has won 79 official PGA Tour events, second only to Sam Snead, and six ahead of Jack Nicklaus with 73 wins.
- Woods has won 14 majors, second all time, behind Jack Nicklaus.
- Woods is 14–1 when going into the final round of a major with at least a share of the lead.
- Woods scoring average in 2000 is the lowest in PGA Tour history, both adjusted, 67.79, and unadjusted, 68.17.
- Woods has the lowest career scoring average in PGA Tour history.
- Woods has amassed the most career earnings of any player in PGA Tour history (even after inflation is considered).
- Woods is one of five players (along with Gene Sarazen, Ben Hogan, Jack Nicklaus, and Gary Player) to have won all four professional major championships in his career, known as the Career Grand Slam, and was the youngest to do so.
- Woods is the only player to have won all four professional major championships in a row, accomplishing the feat in the 2000–2001 seasons. This feat became known as the "Tiger Slam".
- Woods set the all-time record for most consecutive cuts made, with 142. The streak started in 1998, he set the record at the 2003 Tour Championship with 114 (passing Byron Nelson's previous record of 113 and Jack Nicklaus at 105) and extended this mark to 142 before it ended on May 13, 2005 at the EDS Byron Nelson Championship. Many consider this to be one of the most remarkable golf accomplishments of all time, given the margin by which he broke the old record and given that during the streak, the next longest streak by any other player was usually only in the 10s or 20s. It should be noted that when Byron Nelson played far fewer players made the cut in a given event.
- Woods has won a record 27.2% (79 out of 290) of his professional starts on the PGA Tour.
- Woods is the only golfer to have won the U.S. Amateur three consecutive times (1994–96).

IMO there is no way you could argue against Tiger being the best golfer of all time. Even if you only count what he has done up until now he the best ever.

And how has Jack not been mentioned in this discussion?
 
Well since you put it like that, I agree that it isn't debateable. Tiger might be the GOATest GOAT in any individual sport.
 
computer fogie said:
Well since you put it like that, I agree that it isn't debateable. Tiger might be the GOATest GOAT in any individual sport.
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I would have to agree... I put him above Jordan, Federer, Phelps, Bubka, Gretzky in terms of dominance/sport. And he is 38... in golf years, he still has some time left to break more records.
 
I don't watch golf but what up with this 'prime Tiger' talk? Do people really get worse at golf with age like in more physically demanding sports? I thought older people were better at golf lol. Jus curious
 
In Tigers case, he seems to have lost some of the intense focus, confidence, and maybe some of the athleticism that he had when he was on fire. His early swing required a lot of strength, flexibility, and timing; more than can be sustained for very long. He changed it a couple of times since for that reason I believe.

Injuries add up, too. Tiger still plays a very athletic brand of golf and needs to keep his bod in good shape to be dominant.

Putting is all mental, and he's not as good of a putter as he was either. He's out of his prime IMO, but is still a threat to win any tournament he plays in.
 
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yea rusty is a word for it.
making a proper mess of things he is.
not even gonna make the cut at this rate.
 
Probably because he doesn't get the chance to play as many holes as he used to. nudge nudge wink wink
 
computer fogie said:
In Tigers case, he seems to have lost some of the intense focus, confidence, and maybe some of the athleticism that he had when he was on fire. His early swing required a lot of strength, flexibility, and timing; more than can be sustained for very long. He changed it a couple of times since for that reason I believe.

Injuries add up, too. Tiger still plays a very athletic brand of golf and needs to keep his bod in good shape to be dominant.

Putting is all mental, and he's not as good of a putter as he was either. He's out of his prime IMO, but is still a threat to win any tournament he plays in.
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This pretty much sums it up. The whole cheating on his blond supermodel wife with 28375 other chicks, didn't really help when it came to the mental part of his game. Lost so many fans with that and got potrayed by the media as the exact opposite of what they have reported before... that's gotta fuck with ur mind.

What do u guys think of Spieth? I see him achieve big things in the future... mentally just so damn stable.
 
I think Spieth is a flash in the pan. His swing looks like an amateur's and he sprays it off the tee all over the course. His putting has saved him.

Im glad Tiger is back on the course but he'll never be 'back.' Too many injuries, too many mental distractions, too many good young players.
 
Played Spieth over Woods for the tournament at -200. Spieth is at least consistent enough to make the cut. People expect too much from Woods coming straight out of a surgery layoff.
 
lol at Speith being a flash in the pan.
his focus, posture, training and regimen and coaching are ideal.
look for him to grow and improve.

his swing looks like an amateur's? haha, wtf.
so it looks like yours then, right?

how'd you do on the Tour this year, bucko?
 
Graverobber said:
lol at Speith being a flash in the pan.
his focus, posture, training and regimen and coaching are ideal.
look for him to grow and improve.

his swing looks like an amateur's? haha, wtf.
so it looks like yours then, right?

how'd you do on the Tour this year, bucko?
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Are you Jordan Speith's mother? Did I offend you?

Who really knows what hes going to do, its all speculation at this point. So why dont you relax bucaroo?

And yes his swing does look like an amateur's.
 
DarkKnight81 said:
Its serious shit brah.
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All signs point to good things for Spieth. To say otherwise is pretty ignorant. Dating back to this years Masters, he's been in the top twenty 87.5% of the time (7 out of 8 events). He got second at the Masters and fourth at the Players. This is pretty incredible for someone his age who does not have much experience on those particular courses.

Critiquing someone's swing is a pretty weak argument. Look at Furyk and he's done just fine on the tour for many years. Do what works, and it's pretty hard to argue it isn't working for Spieth considering he's already brought in 3.5 million in tournament winnings for 2014 alone.
 
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