Movies Thoughts on this scene in Born on the Fourth of July.

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Masterclass acting by Tom Cruise and Carolina Kava who played Tom's mom.

It's madness what he went through and the PTSD he was suffering from.

What's your take on this scene?

 
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I'd say either a 9 or 10 (I voted 10).

Born on the Fourth of July is a haunting as shit movie. The beginning where he was super gung ho and enthusiastically like "I would die for my country" and you can see his parents look at each other with that look that says they know better, but he won't listen and still goes and gives up the love of his life to do it, and then he gets a chunk of his fucking spine blown out and it fucks his life forever. All of his potential wasted. He returns home and sees what his life could have been had he chosen to stay. God, that would be pure horror beyond words. A true, actual, legitimate living nightmare that you can never wake up from.
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I honestly think it would have been better to just die on the battlefield than go through what he did.

The scene at the black hospital when he returns to the US and the staff are cleaning the shit and vomit of all of the patients with their bare hands.......
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The moment that is probably worst of all is when he's at the hospital in that rotating bed and he realizes this is going to be his life now and he screams absolute bloody murder. You can tell he knows he made the wrong choice and that he regrets it.
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I'd say either a 9 or 10 (I voted 10).

Born on the Fourth of July is a haunting as shit movie. The beginning where he was super gung ho and enthusiastically like "I would die for my country" and you can see his parents look at each other with that look that says they know better, but he won't listen and still goes and gives up the love of his life to do it, and then he gets a chunk of his fucking spine blown out and it fucks his life forever. All of his potential wasted. He returns home and sees what his life could have been had he chosen to stay. God, that would be pure horror beyond words. A true, actual, legitimate living nightmare that you can never wake up from.
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I honestly think it would have been better to just die on the battlefield than go through what he did.

The scene at the black hospital when he returns to the US and the staff are cleaning the shit and vomit of all of the patients with their bare hands.......
church-lady-pass-out.gif


The moment that is probably worst of all is when he's at the hospital in that rotating bed and he realizes this is going to be his life now and he screams absolute bloody murder. You can tell he knows he made the wrong choice and that he regrets it.
neuza-borges-gloria-perez.gif
He made the decision to volunteer again for a second deployment iirc after his first one like he could have still been uninjured if he didn't volunteer the second time for another tour of duty and stayed in North Carolina working on marine planes where he was with the 2nd Marine Aircraft Wing iirc. I bet that decision he thinks over and over again in his head.
 
I don't like it at all. And that's actually what makes it great.

It makes me super uncomfortable to watch and it absolutely blasts a hole right in my views on God and country that I don't want a hole blasted in. The purpose of art I believe is to provoke a reaction and it does. The lies differ but we all tell ourselves some version of them to make sense of this experience we are having on a rock in the middle of nowhere in outer space and it isn't comfortable to pick at them. But it's either the lie or nihilism and nihilism kills the human spirit and is bad for us as humans.

the penis thing is hilarious on the surface. But also super uncomfortable as no man wants to believe that shit can happen to them and yet there it is right in front of you to remind you just how fragile you are. I bet every dude thinks I'd rather catch a .300 win mag to the face then be left alive with a broken penis! I'm pretty anti suicide....but I wouldn't hold it against someone all ptsded out and young with a full life ahead but instead you just gonna sit in that chair and I don't know that I wouldn't in his position.
 
I don't like it at all. And that's actually what makes it great.

It makes me super uncomfortable to watch and it absolutely blasts a hole right in my views on God and country that I don't want a hole blasted in. The purpose of art I believe is to provoke a reaction and it does. The lies differ but we all tell ourselves some version of them to make sense of this experience we are having on a rock in the middle of nowhere in outer space and it isn't comfortable to pick at them. But it's either the lie or nihilism and nihilism kills the human spirit and is bad for us as humans.

the penis thing is hilarious on the surface. But also super uncomfortable as no man wants to believe that shit can happen to them and yet there it is right in front of you to remind you just how fragile you are. I bet every dude thinks I'd rather catch a .300 win mag to the face then be left alive with a broken penis! I'm pretty anti suicide....but I wouldn't hold it against someone all ptsded out and young with a full life ahead but instead you just gonna sit in that chair and I don't know that I wouldn't in his position.

Great post.

Art that makes you think or question your worldview... man that is one of the highest compliments you could possibly say about art.



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Glorifying war to naive innocent young people and completely glossing over the HORRORS and just inhumane brutality of it is such a bizarre and deeply wrong thing.
If you told the truth, who would go? Does that justify the lie? How about the freedom (wealth?) It supposedly protects?
 
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