Media This Weeks UFC Fight Card WORST In UFC History?

[fortheo]

I know those two are not exactly the cream of the crop but I’d still much rather watch a couple of Eastern Euro potato farmers slug it out at HW, than pretty much any WMMA fight.

Even if you already watched it? it's a rematch that nobody asked for.

 

[Deleted member 585708]

Even if you already watched it? it's a rematch that nobody asked for.

It also makes no sense.

The guy ranked higher won this fight last time and is coming off a win.
The guy ranked lower lost this fight last time and is coming off a loss.

There's kinda no logical reason to run it right now.

 

[Cobra 03]

Are you sure that's a UFC show? I never heard of any of them, except for the thrilling headliner!

 

[usernamee]

Every month? Bro, these casuals do it every week lol.

They don't see names like Brock, Diaz, Conor, etc. and they're immediately scrambling to make a "Is dis the worst UFC card ever, brahs?" thread.

It's hilarious haha.

Garbage take. Us "whiners" are not whining because it isn't enough star power on the card or "name value".

We are looking for high level MMA. That's fucking it. And if you know MMA, actually fucking know it, then it's easy to know what is actual high level MMA.

Another dumb take you guys spit out after any shit card has had a lot of finishes is the "Look they always turn out great!"

Awesome, go watch regional MMA, it's fucking bonkers every time and since you don't care about the actual skill level displayed in the octagon you're gonna love it.

 

[Eater of Souls]

I tend to watch the fights first so I know how they were before deciding they are shitty.

 

[Deleted member 585708]

Garbage take. Us "whiners" are not whining because it isn't enough star power on the card or "name value".

We are looking for high level MMA. That's fucking it. And if you know MMA, actually fucking know it, then it's easy to know what is actual high level MMA.

Another dumb take you guys spit out after any shit card has had a lot of finishes is the "Look they always turn out great!"

Awesome, go watch regional MMA, it's fucking bonkers every time and since you don't care about the actual skill level displayed in the octagon you're gonna love it.

I dunno, I've seen an awful lot of regional MMA that limps to a series of decisions...

 

[usernamee]

I dunno, I've seen an awful lot of regional MMA that limps to a series of decisions...

Sure I was just trying to make a point

 

[tritestill]

Aye TS, you usually have good threads, but this is fucking stupid. Substance Abuse already killed your thread in first response. I'll be looking forward to quality threads in the future.

 

[xhaydenx]

Garbage take. Us "whiners" are not whining because it isn't enough star power on the card or "name value".

We are looking for high level MMA. That's fucking it. And if you know MMA, actually fucking know it, then it's easy to know what is actual high level MMA.

Another dumb take you guys spit out after any shit card has had a lot of finishes is the "Look they always turn out great!"

Awesome, go watch regional MMA, it's fucking bonkers every time and since you don't care about the actual skill level displayed in the octagon you're gonna love it.

There's lots of fighters on this card who are high level lol.

You're one of my fav posters on here, and I'm not saying this about you, but lots of posters think that everyone they don't recognize are cans.

These sorts of threads have been around in one form or another for years. People would be shitting on all the prelim fighters or whatever, and a couple of years later, plenty of them are on main cards or headlining lol.

 

[RockyLockridge]

Aye TS, you usually have good threads, but this is fucking stupid. Substance Abuse already killed your thread in first response. I'll be looking forward to quality threads in the future.

Don't be a kiss up. he didn't "kill" anything. There are bad cards on paper, and bad cards in reality.


This IS a weak card on paper. it is an overwhelmingly weak card on paper. no amount of shilling will change that.

but that doesn't mean Myself, and other hardcores won't watch. and it doesn't mean that there will be no good fights. It just means you're not going to put butts in seats. If I had plans next weekend, I'd skip UFC for sure. I only won't because I'm a social Pariah. the fights may be fun, but they are unimportant.

 

[usernamee]

There's lots of fighters on this card who are high level lol.

You're one of my fav posters on here, and I'm not saying this about you, but lots of posters think that everyone they don't recognize are cans.

These sorts of threads have been around in one form or another for years. People would be shitting on all the prelim fighters or whatever, and a couple of years later, plenty of them are on main cards or headlining lol.

Fighters I'm looking forward to seeing on this card are for example Youssef Zalal and Jhonata Diniz and that's because I'm unsure how high these guys ceilings are. But the rest of the card it's fairly clear to me what level of fighters they are.

I'm sure people will say "Oh Chepe, Chepe!" but I'll bet my left nut he'll never be in some sort of title contention fight, his ceiling just isn't that high.

Every single fight can't be top ranked guys or serious prospects obviously but lets sprinkle a little bit more on there at least.. I'm tired of cards stacked up with low to mid level fighters never going anywhere just treading water in pretty much the same place in the UFC for years.

I mean, Damon Jackson in the co-main??

 

[xhaydenx]

Fighters I'm looking forward to seeing on this card are for example Youssef Zalal and Jhonata Diniz and that's because I'm unsure how high these guys ceilings are. But the rest of the card it's fairly clear to me what level of fighters they are.

I'm sure people will say "Oh Chepe, Chepe!" but I'll bet my left nut he'll never be in some sort of title contention fight, his ceiling just isn't that high.

Every single fight can't be top ranked guys or serious prospects obviously but lets sprinkle a little bit more on there at least.. I'm tired of cards stacked up with low to mid level fighters never going anywhere just treading water in pretty much the same place in the UFC for years.

I mean, Damon Jackson in the co-main??

Damon's not in the co-main. He's good though, man.

 

[StoicBeau]

Idk about worst in history but its in the running. UFC is turning into such a shit product.

It’s dying. Only a matter of time.

 

[IDGETKTFO]

Every great once in a while we'll get a stacked one.

This is a rediculous thing to say when UFC is supposed to be the best MMA org. As long as you idiots eat all the garbage the UFC feeds you, and defend this shit, cards will continue to get worse and worse.

 

[Substance Abuse]

This is a rediculous thing to say when UFC is supposed to be the best MMA org. As long as you idiots eat all the garbage the UFC feeds you, and defend this shit, cards will continue to get worse and worse.

Yes, me enjoying MMA more than you, and being pragmatic about Fight Night cards and what they constitute of is why the schedule is so busy and the cards aren't brimming with the fighters everyone likes. I mean, as opposed to it actually being ESPN requesting an event heavy schedule, paying out hundreds of millions in media rights fees, and top guys fighting infrequently while everyone hates everything anyway.

 

[tritestill]

Don't be a kiss up. he didn't "kill" anything. There are bad cards on paper, and bad cards in reality.


This IS a weak card on paper. it is an overwhelmingly weak card on paper. no amount of shilling will change that.

but that doesn't mean Myself, and other hardcores won't watch. and it doesn't mean that there will be no good fights. It just means you're not going to put butts in seats. If I had plans next weekend, I'd skip UFC for sure. I only won't because I'm a social Pariah. the fights may be fun, but they are unimportant.

Who would I be "Kissing up" to? People on Sherdog? That doesn't make sense and IDGAF about what fights Look like on paper, when you watch a fight, you are not reading words...YOU ARE WATCHING A FIGHT. Is this hard to understand? Is this difficult concept? Seems to be.

 

[ryun253]

So we're going to do this every month, eh? You guys aren't tired of this shit yet? Don't tune in. That simple.

You guys whined for weeks about the Jandiroba/Lemos card and it ended up being one of the most exciting cards of the last few months.

There's zero way to know the quality of the card before it happens, especially if you're more concerned with matchups instead of name value. If you're worried you're going to waste your time after looking at a card and deem it not worth it, wait until it's over, look at which fights you should watch, and look for or fire up a replay rather than cry about it online?

I wish people would look at Fight Night cards more realistically as they are free - they're for prospects, aging veterans, those without name value and to give the fighters that provide depth who may become gatekeepers, journeymen or even top fighters an opportunity to fight, improve and prove themselves.

Every great once in a while we'll get a stacked one. And sometimes, like it Saturday for example, it doesn't entirely deliver. Yet, the 'w0rsT c4rD 0f aL1 t1m3' in Jandiroba/Lemos did. Can we at least wait for the card to happen before we shit on the quality of it?

UFC has been dying for the past 30 years bro

 

[Substance Abuse]

UFC has been dying for the past 30 years bro

It started dying on November 12th, 1993.

 

[RockyLockridge]

Who would I be "Kissing up" to? People on Sherdog? That doesn't make sense and IDGAF about what fights Look like on paper, when you watch a fight, you are not reading words...YOU ARE WATCHING A FIGHT. Is this hard to understand? Is this difficult concept? Seems to be.

I think when some one is criticising a card before it happens it's not a critique that it's boring. It's a critique that the card is unappealing. It doesn't make you want to watch it. Your missing the point entirely.

You might make an event out of watching some fight cards, hell you might even miss out one some events to watch a fight card but not this one. I think that's what's trying to be said here

 

[GiganticMeat]

I was just gonna say that

There is a "worst card in history" every few weeks nowadays!

What if.... They're actually getting worse?

We can agree to disagree, that's fine. Everyone is entitled to their opinion whether I agree or not. The whining is tiresome. These complaints have been going on for years. It's a Suredawg staple.

Personally speaking, I think the PPVs have been good this year for the most part, and they've put on some good, tentpole level Fight Night cards as well. The reality is, when champions and top five fighters fight so infrequently, it's going to seem more barren by default.

As for fighter pay, I couldn't agree more - they need to be better compensated, starting with base pay and the UFC allowing them to receive sponsorship. They're putting their lives on the line every time they step in there.

First of all, as someone else pointed out, they aren't free. Nothing is free. Not to get pragmatic about it, but it costs your time and attention, not to mention they're literally spamming you with ads nonstop. Most people have stopped thinking about it, but there's a reason "free" things are traded to/forced upon people in exchange for filling their minds up with horseshit. It's actually deeply unethical, especially if you consider the actual content of the ads (I'm assuming you're American, too). Something about the Matrix analogy of people being wringed out like cornhusks rings true.

It also, obviously, costs either an ESPN subscription, or a cable subscription, a place to watch it in, electricity, etc. So if you compare a Fight Night to a PPV, what you're comparing is something that costs something vs something that's actually a total ripoff based on an outdated model. No other hobby that I've participated in--including gaming--is everybody so gleeful to rip off the makers of it.

And your last paragraph contains its own answer. The UFC is ripping off its athletes, and this isn't some bleeding heart point -- it's directly leading to these subpar quality products. All the ingredients are there to make a better product. There are so many people who would love to fight. There isn't a shortage. MMA has exploded, but apparently, there are people behind the scenes getting very rich and laughing in our faces. What if they just, you know, stopped using the Apex so much after its original intent, instead of using it to save money? What if they threw serious money and effort into recruiting all the talent that's out there? What if they paid the entry level fighters ("premier MMA organization in the world, on par with NBA, football, bigger than soccer") enough so that they could just train full time? I guess NFL rookies warming the bench for 750k a year quit after that because they got paid so much. I remember LeBron's breakthrough year (actually, I don't lol). Shame he quit after making that bank...

ESPN deal is tanking the quality of the product. You only brought up the good points, like that some fights wind up turning out good regardless. People already debunked that with regional MMA comparisons. You could use Street beefs too. I've seen some bangers. Also seen some nice street fight videos. There was a nice one with a guy being attacked by a pool and fighting off multiple assailants. It's irrelevant.

Contracts improving too would likely lead to more activity for top 5 guys. A lot of the times fights stall because they don't like what they're getting or how they're being treated. More emphasis needs to be placed on improving MMA. Not whatever the hell is going on.

Edit:
To throw more fire on top of this dumpster, look at what they got approved by the athletic commission, yet it took 24 years? To reverse the downward elbow rule. They don't like lay and pray fighters, right? Who does? But the ruleset still encourages it.

Where are their priorities really?