This version of Stipe - Who could he beat in the top 10?

[IceCold ADCC]

Ask yourself this question:

Who could tonight's version of Stipe beat in the UFC top 10 HW right now? Answer: ABSOLUTELY nobody.

Blind fans and Jones homers, are acting like tonight's win adds to Jones amazing career. It doesn't. Tonight was a sham of a fight. Period. It was a fabricated story line for Jon by Dana.

Stipe literally did NOTHING elite tonight. His punchs were slow, his foot work was non existent, his balance was terrible. He looked OLD as fuck and was a shell of himself at best. Anyone stating other wise is BS'ing.

I think people have a hard time admiting old men can't fight very well. I think it's a kinda of face your own mortality type deal. Once the brain slows down fighters can no longer fight well no matter what their body looks like. Tonight and last night for that matter (Tyson) is clear evidence.

Also Jon beating Tom at this point in both their careers would be HUGE. Anyone saying other wise don't know what they are talking about.

Fight Tom or retire.

 

[muaythaibeast]

He'd probably be good enough to get by Almeida who doesn't pose a striking threat. Everyone else is a problem though. Pavlovich may actually kill him.

 

[IceCold ADCC]

He'd probably be good enough to get by Almeida who doesn't pose a striking threat. Everyone else is a problem though. Pavlovich may actually kill him.

I think Stipe gets killed by most LHW's at this point.

 

[tritestill]

GOAT THREAD

 

[Gamer007]

He could beat 3 or 4 of them for sure, but of course the top of the division is a big question mark.


Jon, Aspinall, Volkov, Gane, and Pav are a level or two above the others, though if we're being real Stipe did better versus Jon than Gane did.


If you rewatch the fight Jon was able to neutralize Stipe with so many clean feints and ranged attacks, and tbh I'm not sure a HW alive could've taken that beating from Rnd1 Jon like Stipe. How are you supposed to be the same fighter after that GnP in round 1?

Stipe could still easily hang with dudes like Spivac, Tybura, and Rozenstruik, even Bladyes and Almeida to a lesser extent (?), we know for a fact those guys don't hold a candle to Jon in the skill department.


There's no fighter in the division with the diversity and experience of Jon, you combine that with massive damage in round 1 plus an extended layoff and it's going to be hard to survive. Nobody has ever done that to Stipe, and it can't just be attributed to his age. Comparing Stipe to Mike Tyson is absurd, and there was no evidence to suggest Stipe couldn't "Fight Well" anymore. 98+% of the roster doesn't make it out of round 1 versus Jon.

At some point you have to give credit where credit is due.

 

[Zanmato]

He was slow, had poor movement, lacked any kind of aggression, striking diversity and when he did throw something he was well outside of range, or it was extremely telegraphed and has no power. He is tough as nails to take that beating in round 1 and a legend, and deservingly so.. but he was dire in there. It's not time to ask which top 10 he could beat, rather which bouncer at the event gate he might still be able to catch


Edit for balance - i do not like Jones but I thought he looked good on there. Took control of the range, his attacks were varied and kept him guessing, that trip was nice and he only threw power when he needed to. It was a disciplined and skillful performance... but it was legitimately a great performance against a moving heavy bag

 

[HHJ]

I mean

even if Stipe didnt retire, aint nobody trying to see that dude fight again, so its not even worth thinkin about

 

[Ludwig von Mises]

tonight's Stipe wasn't much faster than Hicardo Morais.

He would have gotten badly hurt by any of the great HWs from the past and present

 

[HHJ]

He could beat 3 or 4 of them for sure, but of course the top of the division is a big question mark.

how

by starin at em?

 

[Bubzeh]

The man is now retired. Let him rest and have some respect.

 

[SuspectChin]

Didn't you hear Rogan and DC's pre-fight comments?
"This is the best Stipe EVER!"

 

[orca]

well he survived jones for rd 3
gane a top HW didnt survive a round

 

[Plissken]

I wouldn't bet on him to beat Michael Stipe at this point.

Honestly though I think Anthony Smith would be the level of a guy a weight down that he should be going against, that's how diminished he is.

 

[Plissken]

Didn't you hear Rogan and DC's pre-fight comments?
"This is the best Stipe EVER!"

The polygraph would explode.

 

[joy2day]

There is only one person fighting recently that I think Stipe might match up well against- Mike Tyson. There is no discussion beyond that. He doesn't sound good in conversations, and more fights will only increase trauma levels. He looked like a washed-up slug tonight.

Fighting the big boys at HW racks up those concussive moments over the years.

 

[Mmmmmmma1234]

Ask yourself this question:

Who could tonight's version of Stipe beat in the UFC top 10 HW right now? Answer: ABSOLUTELY nobody.

Blind fans and Jones homers, are acting like tonight's win adds to Jones amazing career. It doesn't. Tonight was a sham of a fight. Period. It was a fabricated story line for Jon by Dana.

Stipe literally did NOTHING elite tonight. His punchs were slow, his foot work was non existent, his balance was terrible. He looked OLD as fuck and was a shell of himself at best. Anyone stating other wise is BS'ing.

I think people have a hard time admiting old men can't fight very well. I think it's a kinda of face your own mortality type deal. Once the brain slows down fighters can no longer fight well no matter what their body looks like. Tonight and last night for that matter (Tyson) is clear evidence.

Also Jon beating Tom at this point in both their careers would be HUGE. Anyone saying other wise don't know what they are talking about.

Fight Tom or retire.

I had to check who was tenth because I did like tybura to beat stipe tonight. I don't think there's a chance rozenstruck can stop stipe taking him down at will THAT'S IT.

 

[IceCold ADCC]

I mean

even if Stipe didnt retire, aint nobody trying to see that dude fight again, so its not even worth thinkin about

You missed the point of the thread big dawg.

 

[tritestill]

Stipe was not a top ten HW at the time Jon beat him. That's what TS is saying, for some of you who don't grasp what he's speaking.

 

[RedDevilFan]

If you saw the fight, the striking exchanges early went to Stipe. He was doing well in the boxing exchanges and had jones running for a bit.

The reality is Stipe was fighting an old jones, but still an experienced and dangerous vet. Who at HW is actually jones. The HW division is a waste land filled with fighters who would not be top division fighters in any great era outside of this one. Stipe in terms of boxing can still out box most of the HW fighters.

Stipe is an old man but the HW division is shit.

 

[Domitian]

Stipe was 30 seconds away from making it to round 4. No way Rozenstruik, Spivac, or Tybura last 2 rounds with Jon.