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The theory of “social banditry” explains our grim political moment.

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In the wake of the early morning killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson in New York last week, social media lit up not with shock and horror, but something more akin to joy. “This needs to be the new norm,” posted one X user, “EAT THE RICH.” “My only question is did the CEO of United Healthcare die quickly or over several months waiting to find out if his insurance would cover his treatment for the fatal gunshot wound?” posted another.

The glee with which so many people online responded to the news of the killing shocked the consciences of politicians and pundits alike. How are we to make sense of such a grim, ugly public sentiment?

History may offer an answer.

In 1959 the Marxist scholar Eric Hobsbawm introduced the concept of “social banditry” into the historical and sociological lexicon. Social bandits were sometimes fictional, sometimes real figures who operated outside of the law and were widely revered for their efforts to mete out justice in an unjust world — like Robin Hood, the legendary English outlaw who lived in Sherwood Forest and, with his band of Merry Men, “stole from the rich and gave to the poor.”
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Hobsbawm’s theory, which historians continue to debate, rested on a fairly specific Marxian analysis of power and economic relationships in agrarian societies, with bandits (or the idea of bandits) providing a form of resistance in the face of rampant inequality. But such characters transcended different geographies and times, ranging from the fictional Robin Hood in 14th century England, to brutally violent, real-life outlaws like Jesse James and Billy the Kid in the post-Civil War era United States, to Pancho Villa in early 20th century Mexico.

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What happened in New York was no folk tale; it was stone-cold murder. The shooter isn’t a hero; he’s a killer. But much about the killer’s performative flair is reminiscent of the social bandits of old: Thompson’s shooter left clues about his motive on bullet casings, concealed his face with a mask and dropped a backpack stuffed with Monopoly money before zipping away on a bicycle. And when police arrested 26-year-old Luigi Mangione in connection with the killing, he was allegedly carrying a manifesto. While law enforcement is still investigating his motives, it seems clear that he was trying to send some kind of social message through the attack.

The popular reaction, too, has been reminiscent of Hobsbawm’s writing — and suggests that the U.S. political system may be broken in ways that invite popular celebration of latter-day social bandits. It’s not just about the state of U.S. health care, though surely that is the lens through which many people viewed the story. Rather, as Hobsbawm proffered, when people lose faith in the state’s ability to address their concerns and grievances, they sometimes look to outlaws who offer themselves as an alternative.


A Marxist scholar writing in the early Cold War era, Hobsbawm belonged to a broader intellectual tradition seeking to critique capitalism. He also wrote in a time of global decolonization, as peasants and marginalized groups in the Global South struggled against colonial and imperial powers. A pioneer of “history from below,” Hobsbawm was particularly interested in probing the relationship between peasant societies and revolutionary change, with special focus on underground forms of resistance.

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By his rendering, social banditry attracted popular attention and support in rural environments where the state was especially weak, peasants’ longstanding prerogatives were eroding in the face of economic change, inequality was rampant and few credible institutions (for instance, labor unions) existed to offer a more constructive form of resistance to powerful persons — like the famed Sheriff of Nottingham — who abused their power.

Whether Rob Roy MacGregor, aka the Scottish Robin Hood, or Ned Kelly, a 19th century Australian outlaw, “the crucial fact about the bandit’s social situation is its ambiguity,” Hobsbawm wrote. “He is an outsider and a rebel, a poor man who refuses to accept the normal rules of poverty. … This draws him close to the poor: he is one of them. It sets him in opposition to the hierarchy of power, wealth and influence. He is not one of them. … At the same time the bandit is inevitably drawn into the web of wealth and power. Because, unlike other peasants, he acquires wealth and exerts power. He is ‘one of us,’ who is constantly in the process of becoming associated with ‘them.’” (Of course, being “one of us” doesn’t mean the social bandit cannot come from wealth or privilege. As the Robin Hood lure evolved from its 14th century roots, the masked bandit became a former nobleman who turned traitor to his upbringing and cast his lot with the poor. It’s about affinity and identity, not background.)
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Notably, real life social bandits were often extremely violent men. Certainly that was true in the case of Jesse James, the notorious American bank and train robber, and Confederate guerrilla, who became a folk hero after the Civil War. Born in Missouri, James fought for the Confederacy as part of “bushwhacker” units known for their brutal guerrilla tactics, including attacks on Union forces and civilians. Deeply shaped by the racial violence of the era, James’ crimes reflected his resistance to the abolition of slavery and commitment to preserving white supremacy. Despite this, he was romanticized in popular culture as a Robin Hood-like figure. Admirers even wrote a ballad in his honor:

Jesse James was a man

And he killed many men
He robbed the Glendale train
And he took from the richer
And he gave that to the poorer

He’d a hand and a heart and a brain

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Intriguing as it was to draw connections across centuries and continents, Hobsbawm’s theory of peasants’ proto-political resistance drew criticism.
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Some scholars claimed he romanticized bandits as champions of the oppressed, overlooking the more self-serving or violent aspects of their actions. To this point, they noted that some bandits exploited their communities just as much as they resisted elites.

Others observed that bandits were not consciously political or revolutionary, though this critique missed the point: Popular veneration of social bandits was itself a form of what scholars call “pre-political” or “proto-political” action — modes of resistance that do not explicitly engage with formal political systems or institutions but can still reflect political consciousness, grievances or a challenge to the status quo.

Regardless, the framework is instructive. And it helps us to unravel the tragic events in Manhattan last week.

On one level, it’s not hard to understand why many people celebrated a vigilante attack on a health insurance executive.
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The United States spends one sixth of the GDP on health care, yet 8 percent of its citizens are uninsured, and about 23 percent are underinsured. According to political scientist Miranda Yaver, an assistant professor of health policy and management at the University of Pittsburgh, “in 2022, over 1 in 4 Americans reported delaying or foregoing medical care, prescription drugs, mental health care, or dental care due to cost, with 17 percent of insulin users reporting in 2021 that they ration their insulin. It is little wonder that a November 2023 Gallup poll found that just 31 percent of Americans trust the U.S. health care system.”

Yaver, whose book, Coverage Denied: How Health Insurers Drive Inequality in the United States, is due for publication in 2026, conducted a nationwide survey of health insurance coverage denials and found that “36 percent of 1,340 U.S. adults experienced at least one denial, and most of them had experienced this practice more than once.”

Clearly the populace’s exhaustion with navigating these challenges expressed itself in the popular online reaction to Thompson’s death. But the social banditry framework is a helpful tool to think about our broader political environment.
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Hobsbawm linked banditry to moments of economic and social upheaval, where a weak or unstable state infrastructure failed to meet people’s needs. In the early modern era, such instability could be the result of the enclosure of common lands, the transition to capitalist or market-based agricultural systems or the collapse of traditional feudal structures. Bandits filled a power vacuum created by the state’s inability to deliver justice or provide economic stability.

The federal government in 2024 is of course a great deal more powerful than the weak state structures Hobsbawm studied, but it is arguably about as ineffectual in key areas. In recent years, Congress has effectively stopped legislating, failing to pass routine budget and appropriations bills, let alone sweeping structural reforms that might make permanent fixes to, say, the health care system. In turn, presidents have assumed greater executive authority, only to be reined by the courts, which — at least when the incumbent president is a Democrat — have sharply limited the executive branch’s purview in areas as diverse as immigration, student debt relief and environmental protection.

If one puts stock in Hobsbawm’s thesis, in a world where ordinary people feel the pinch of economic inequality or change, and in which they have little faith that the state can redress their grievances, social banditry becomes an appealing force. Indeed, public trust in government is at an all-time low. In such an environment, it’s little wonder that a masked killer with a bag of Monopoly money can become an instant folk hero.
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The lesson is, and should be, unsettling. Social bandits capture the public imagination not just because they take from the rich and give to the poor, sometimes violently. Their power resides in the vacuum that is effective government. In the absence of a strong and responsive government, many Americans may continue to celebrate social banditry as an expression of their discontent with the economic state of affairs. And while some bandits are swashbuckling and benign, like Robin Hood, just as often, they are like Frank and Jesse James: violent, bloodthirsty and dangerous.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/12/10/united-healthcare-killer-reaction-theory-00193513
 
Oh, there's definitely plenty of truth in this. The left are apparently anti-violence but lap up any form of violence committed against those they oppose socially and poltiically - they even encourage it.

That being said, of all the people I can't feel sorry for, a CEO of an American health insurance firm is at the very top.
 
Intriguing as it was to draw connections across centuries and continents, Hobsbawm’s theory of peasants’ proto-political resistance drew criticism.
MAIN-BANE-QTR_SCALE_TILES_2000x.png

- Bane: The nightmare of Santa Prisca, and one of the modern days more beleved bandits!

Some scholars claimed he romanticized bandits as champions of the oppressed, overlooking the more self-serving or violent aspects of their actions. To this point, they noted that some bandits exploited their communities just as much as they resisted elites.

Others observed that bandits were not consciously political or revolutionary, though this critique missed the point: Popular veneration of social bandits was itself a form of what scholars call “pre-political” or “proto-political” action — modes of resistance that do not explicitly engage with formal political systems or institutions but can still reflect political consciousness, grievances or a challenge to the status quo.

Regardless, the framework is instructive. And it helps us to unravel the tragic events in Manhattan last week.

On one level, it’s not hard to understand why many people celebrated a vigilante attack on a health insurance executive.
the-punisher-netflix.jpg

The United States spends one sixth of the GDP on health care, yet 8 percent of its citizens are uninsured, and about 23 percent are underinsured. According to political scientist Miranda Yaver, an assistant professor of health policy and management at the University of Pittsburgh, “in 2022, over 1 in 4 Americans reported delaying or foregoing medical care, prescription drugs, mental health care, or dental care due to cost, with 17 percent of insulin users reporting in 2021 that they ration their insulin. It is little wonder that a November 2023 Gallup poll found that just 31 percent of Americans trust the U.S. health care system.”

Yaver, whose book, Coverage Denied: How Health Insurers Drive Inequality in the United States, is due for publication in 2026, conducted a nationwide survey of health insurance coverage denials and found that “36 percent of 1,340 U.S. adults experienced at least one denial, and most of them had experienced this practice more than once.”

Clearly the populace’s exhaustion with navigating these challenges expressed itself in the popular online reaction to Thompson’s death. But the social banditry framework is a helpful tool to think about our broader political environment.
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Hobsbawm linked banditry to moments of economic and social upheaval, where a weak or unstable state infrastructure failed to meet people’s needs. In the early modern era, such instability could be the result of the enclosure of common lands, the transition to capitalist or market-based agricultural systems or the collapse of traditional feudal structures. Bandits filled a power vacuum created by the state’s inability to deliver justice or provide economic stability.

The federal government in 2024 is of course a great deal more powerful than the weak state structures Hobsbawm studied, but it is arguably about as ineffectual in key areas. In recent years, Congress has effectively stopped legislating, failing to pass routine budget and appropriations bills, let alone sweeping structural reforms that might make permanent fixes to, say, the health care system. In turn, presidents have assumed greater executive authority, only to be reined by the courts, which — at least when the incumbent president is a Democrat — have sharply limited the executive branch’s purview in areas as diverse as immigration, student debt relief and environmental protection.

If one puts stock in Hobsbawm’s thesis, in a world where ordinary people feel the pinch of economic inequality or change, and in which they have little faith that the state can redress their grievances, social banditry becomes an appealing force. Indeed, public trust in government is at an all-time low. In such an environment, it’s little wonder that a masked killer with a bag of Monopoly money can become an instant folk hero.
maxresdefault.jpg

The lesson is, and should be, unsettling. Social bandits capture the public imagination not just because they take from the rich and give to the poor, sometimes violently. Their power resides in the vacuum that is effective government. In the absence of a strong and responsive government, many Americans may continue to celebrate social banditry as an expression of their discontent with the economic state of affairs. And while some bandits are swashbuckling and benign, like Robin Hood, just as often, they are like Frank and Jesse James: violent, bloodthirsty and dangerous.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/12/10/united-healthcare-killer-reaction-theory-00193513

Interesting. Or maybe people are just tired of living worse and worse, while a segment of the population lives better and better, directly due to making the first groups lives worse.

Crazy theory i know. I call it "Social Decay".
 
You don't really need a complex theory to explain it. It's pretty obvious.

People tend to detach themselves from large-scale tragedies. So a health system that makes money off sick people, denies claims, forces people to hire lawyers they can't afford to get the compensation they're owed, etc, is a problem. A much bigger problem than a rogue CEO killer. We're talking millions of people being affected vs. just one. It's just easier to demonize the rogue killer because the killing is flashy and not sanctioned by the state. It looks bad. Whilst someone dying slowly at home from a refused claim isn't flashy, no one sees it. So I'd argue that it's actually the writers of this article that have a psychological blind spot. All these mainstream publications have a corporate bias built into them as well, don't want the worker bees getting agitated.
 
Woke people like to present themselves as enemy of the establishment, until it comes to following orders from the establishment.

Anyway, the killer is a privately educated rich kid from a millionaire family, whilst the CEO was from a working class family.

Makes woke people’s reaction even worse, given what they preach.
 
Woke people like to present themselves as enemy of the establishment, until it comes to following orders from the establishment.

Anyway, the killer is a privately educated rich kid from a millionaire family, whilst the CEO was from a working class family.

Makes woke people’s reaction even worse, given what they preach.

Doesn't matter what kind of family the CEO is from lol.

Dude was a CEO of a health insurance company.

Anybody who has experienced the absurd bullshit of health insurance companies is going to find it hard to give a single fuck about that guy.

I don't think people will care when the killer spends the rest of his life in prison either.

This situation is mostly "yea, I'm kind of surprised this shit doesn't happen more often."
 
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CEO is mostly just a figurehead. what about all the ppl who own stock in these companies? talk about diffusion of responsibility
 
You're always gonna have a hard time finding someone to sympathize with someone who makes their living off the suffering of others. What happened wasn't right but I'm not gonna lose sleep over it. Same thing if a rapist or pdf got marked.
 
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Oh, there's definitely plenty of truth in this. The left are apparently anti-violence but lap up any form of violence committed against those they oppose socially and poltiically - they even encourage it.

That being said, of all the people I can't feel sorry for, a CEO of an American health insurance firm is at the very top.

You know youd come off as way less c*nty if you didnt use an opportunity for bipartisan sentiment in your second statement, if you didnt feel an overwhelming need to throw shade in your first statement as if the right don't do the exact same thing of saying violence is wrong, but being giddy about violence towards their political opposition. These stupid perceptions are what perpetuate useless working class divide. Not all leftists are pacifists, or anti-violence depending on who the violence is directed towards. Like say, blood-sucking CEO's of American Health Insurance firms who are proud of how many people they f*ck over.
 
Woke people like to present themselves as enemy of the establishment, until it comes to following orders from the establishment.

Anyway, the killer is a privately educated rich kid from a millionaire family, whilst the CEO was from a working class family.

Makes woke people’s reaction even worse, given what they preach.

I'm gonna guess you really just dont think about the sh*t you say before you post it.

Robin of Locksley was legended to be English nobility. Part of his whole ordeal was that he felt the Sheriff and the Barons betrayed the idea of what being a nobleman entailed. Which he himself didnt learn until he witnessed the crusades.

Someone being from a class is fairly meaningless compared to what they do once they have power. Coming from the working class can definitely make someone a monster, when they hate their own origin (see: JD Vance). And being born into the wealthy class can make a revolutionary the moment that spoiled rich kid experiences something the Plebs do.
 
when that figurehead doubles denials under his watch i don't think he's just a figurehead.

Yeah, figureheads are for monarchies and other institutions that need some sort of symbolic front to face the public.

There are no figureheads in corporations. It's just not efficient to have one and multi-billion dollar corporations are almost obsessed with efficiency.
 
That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.
 
People don't have empathy for someone they feel is responsible for defrauding and in some cases, murdering their fellow citizens. It's not rocket science
 
It’s the result of compound mistreatment.
The best quote i saw was that our social contract with society was in need of a re write.
Felt like that was pretty accurate. Before you could lie about all this stuff and people had their feelings on the issue. Now we can see your profit sheets and shady business practices on the phone as well as viral dying
loved ones GO Fund Me Page.
Covid made a lot of people question work life balance (part pf social contract) and all a sudden the government cared about my well being and safety for some reason.
 
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