International This just in - Ivermectin doesn't work for Covid

SheetsMMAfan said:
I am saying that COVID does its replication within the first 3 days, you are siting a test that uses a "within the first 7 days" as the statistic, and you INSTANTLY think that most of them OBVIOUSLY had taken it during the replication period of the virus? How can bias people form an opinion and then base their fight off an opinion? You don't want it to work, you site a study where it shows it doesnt work, you tilt the only axis used against it as ammunition that it COULD work in your favor, and instantly go "HAHAHAHA I am posting this on the internet and making fun of people".
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Its not that I don't want it to work. Its been quite clear for some time that if it worked at all, it didn't work better than other treatments we already have. I was all for it working, back when it appeared as though it might work.

What I do want, is for people who don't understand the scientific process or medicine to stop parroting nonsense that harms everyone.
 
Did anyone try adding a gram or two of sunshine to the ivermectin?

I'm betting that ramps up it's effectiveness.
 
Great data, just in time for me not to give a fuck since everyone i know has been vaccinated for like a year.
 
dirtypablo said:
New study published in the New England Journal of Medicine shows absolutely no benefit to Ivermectin. Not only that, but the scale of the study is larger than combined scale of all the trials included in any meta analysis showing any benefits.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/30/health/covid-ivermectin-hospitalization.html

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2115869



Any of you fellas that have been pushing it hard willing to admit you were wrong?
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The study defines hospitalization as the clinical endpoint, not death.

The Ivermectin group had 12% lower deaths than the Placebo group in the study, but because the sample size wasn't large enough, the result isn't considered statistically significant. This is far from proving that Ivermectin has no benefit.

The study is also obviously flawed in that patients were only randomly assigned after they had COVID symptoms for 7 days. Ivermectin's proponents have always claimed that Ivermectin is most effective as a prophylaxis, not in response to symptoms that have been developing for a week.

edit: The study actually says "up to 7 days", but the point still stands.
 
Ivermectin did not donate millions to Trump and Biden like Pfizer did.
 
SheetsMMAfan said:
This study here at https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2115869

"Patients who had had symptoms of Covid-19 for up to 7 days and had at least one risk factor for disease progression were randomly assigned to receive ivermectin."

That's cool to prove that an antiviral medication that is used to stop viruses from replicating is used on a virus 7 days after the person starts showing symptoms, which means they could have had it longer than 7 days, when COVID does most of it's replication in the first 72 hours....

People that post "PWN links" should really read the stuff they post and research a little. I know research is taboo since research is now linked directly to being a conspiracy theorist, but boy, sometimes people should just try.

Can't see the nytimes link. Not using my email to read that one, sorry.

EDIT: I am editing this, so furiously quoting me and telling me I am wrong while I am doing this will result in you not quoting my own post and make this look like a ninja edit.

Here is a 10 minute video. I know some will look and say "You expect me to watch that? Its TEN WHOLE MINUTES!", so I started it where the meat is. VERY reliable source that does the work for you on screen with the actual numbers from actual non biased studies:

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Yeah. This study seems like they set it up to fail from the start. It has to be administered within the first few days. Not a week long into it.
 
dirtypablo said:
New study published in the New England Journal of Medicine shows absolutely no benefit to Ivermectin. Not only that, but the scale of the study is larger than combined scale of all the trials included in any meta analysis showing any benefits.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/30/health/covid-ivermectin-hospitalization.html

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2115869



Any of you fellas that have been pushing it hard willing to admit you were wrong?
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Sure, are you willing to admit it was wrongfully held back from the public and demonized while politicians secretly took it behind closed doors?
 
dirtypablo said:
New study published in the New England Journal of Medicine shows absolutely no benefit to Ivermectin. Not only that, but the scale of the study is larger than combined scale of all the trials included in any meta analysis showing any benefits.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/30/health/covid-ivermectin-hospitalization.html

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2115869



Any of you fellas that have been pushing it hard willing to admit you were wrong?
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I didn't push it, but is it ineffective or inconsistent?
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AZ103 said:
Sure, are you willing to admit it was wrongfully held back from the public and demonized while politicians secretly took it behind closed doors?
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The media response around it was complete BS, especially after Joe Rogan took it, and the major narrative was that it was nothing more than a horse dewormer. It was handled horribly, and I've posted about that many times. I don't know that it was 'held back from the public.' Despite what many folks here think, doctors shouldn't just try random treatments on patients to see what works, they should take guidance from the overall medical and scientific community.
 
Next there will be studies saying the experimental jabs aren't effective...

The premise of the op seems so "small" for want of a better word... Ts are you personally invested in others opinions on ivermectin? When people mentioned it as a treatment how did they frame it? Could you say the experimental injection treatments forced on people are also found to be ineffective due to supposedly having a half-life of a few months at best, etc? What are we talking about here, and why?
 
badascan said:
Next there will be studies saying the experimental jabs aren't effective...

The premise of the op seems so "small" for want of a better word... Ts are you personally invested in others opinions on ivermectin? When people mentioned it as a treatment how did they frame it? Could you say the experimental injection treatments forced on people are also found to be ineffective due to supposedly having a half-life of a few months at best, etc? What are we talking about here, and why?
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Funny how a lot of people still think and claim the vaccine was experimental

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I'm sure government and big pharma doesnt have their fingerprints all over these studies.
 
ElKarlo said:
Yeah. This study seems like they set it up to fail from the start. It has to be administered within the first few days. Not a week long into it.
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ElKarlo said:
Yeah. This study seems like they set it up to fail from the start. It has to be administered within the first few days. Not a week long into it.
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are you saying it has to be administer before there are symptoms? because in 50% of cases in this study it was administered within two or three days of symptoms. are you saying that is not soon enough?
 
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